Let's make a list of juices/flavors that crack tanks, ce2's/clearos...
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i didnt see ms ts apple pie with ice cream on the list so delicious but it has cracked a number of tanks now
I believe you're probably correct. What I want to know is where to get a sheet, or other sample of polycarbonate to drip on and look for evidence of a bad reaction. I'm sure polycarbonate is all around us, but I don't know where/what to look for. Anyone have a clue?
First of all
One very big Thanx for making this list.
As à beginner i did not know this was even à issue.
If i come across à flavor that Will break down à tank i Will post it here.
Keeping à close look at this thread.
One very big Thanx for making this list.
As à beginner i did not know this was even à issue.
If i come across à flavor that Will break down à tank i Will post it here.
Keeping à close look at this thread.
I recently upgraded from the Ego with CE4 clearomizers to the Innokin MVP with the iClear 16 clearomizers and 10 replacement heads for them. I am blown away by the VV MVP and the iClear dual coil clearomizers. I think the vapor produced and work horse ethic these things seem to have is great.
The only concern I have and I dont know if anyone else has had this- is that after day 5 of vaping on the insides of my tank I have 2-3 scratches and or cracks.
I did not drop the unit and when I run my finger over the top of the tank it is still smooth so it is internal. Could the juice I am using be eating the inside of the tank? I am not using anything with citrus or cinnamon, so no culprits I have heard of eating tanks in the past. The only thing that is not a tobbaco flavor is applewood. I saw in earliar posts that sour can be a culprit and the applewood is the only thing that may have sour in it.
I dont have any leaks yet either so the cracks or scratches are not through the tank.
weird right?
The only concern I have and I dont know if anyone else has had this- is that after day 5 of vaping on the insides of my tank I have 2-3 scratches and or cracks.
I did not drop the unit and when I run my finger over the top of the tank it is still smooth so it is internal. Could the juice I am using be eating the inside of the tank? I am not using anything with citrus or cinnamon, so no culprits I have heard of eating tanks in the past. The only thing that is not a tobbaco flavor is applewood. I saw in earliar posts that sour can be a culprit and the applewood is the only thing that may have sour in it.
I dont have any leaks yet either so the cracks or scratches are not through the tank.
weird right?
I found this for Flavor art
The following e liquids may break your plastic tank based system:
Absinthe
Amaretto
Apricot
Arnold Palmer
Big Red Soda
Black Licorice
Black Rock
Blood Orange
Cider Fire
Cinnamon
Cinnamon Hot Tamale
Cinnamon Red Hot
Creme De Menthe
Dr. Pepper
Ecto Cooler
Ginger Ale
Ginger
Green Apple
Key Lime
Lavender
Lemonade
Lightning
Mango
Mango Tea
Maraschino Cherry
Monster Bash
Monster
Morning Vape
Mt. Dew
Orange
Orange Ice
Peach
Pineapple
Pineapple Peach
Pink Lemonade
Rad Energy
Razzle Dazzle
Rock Star
Root Beer
Ruby Red Grapefruit
Sassafras
Solar Flare
Sweet Tarts
Tangerine
Venom
White Out
Yellow Ice
The following e liquids may break your plastic tank based system:
Absinthe
Amaretto
Apricot
Arnold Palmer
Big Red Soda
Black Licorice
Black Rock
Blood Orange
Cider Fire
Cinnamon
Cinnamon Hot Tamale
Cinnamon Red Hot
Creme De Menthe
Dr. Pepper
Ecto Cooler
Ginger Ale
Ginger
Green Apple
Key Lime
Lavender
Lemonade
Lightning
Mango
Mango Tea
Maraschino Cherry
Monster Bash
Monster
Morning Vape
Mt. Dew
Orange
Orange Ice
Peach
Pineapple
Pineapple Peach
Pink Lemonade
Rad Energy
Razzle Dazzle
Rock Star
Root Beer
Ruby Red Grapefruit
Sassafras
Solar Flare
Sweet Tarts
Tangerine
Venom
White Out
Yellow Ice
Polycarbonate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia claims: A major application of polycarbonate is the production of Compact Discs, DVDs, and Blu-ray Discs. These discs are produced by injection molding polycarbonate into a mold cavity that has on one side a metal stamper containing a negative image of the disc data, while the other mold side is a mirrored surface.
Not sure if they put a scratch-resistant coating on the CDs.
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My aim is to compile a list of juice and flavorings that may cause problems as far as cracking, fogging, or etching polycarbonate tanks. Anything listed here may cause your polycarbonate tank to be damaged. I am primarily focused on the polycarbonate tanks, although this info may apply to other tanks.
I am certainly not attempting to ban any flavors or ejuices. I'm just trying to help out some folks who continue use polycarbonate tank systems.
***Most, if not all, polycarbonate plastic by nature uses BPA in its manufacturing You can read about BPA leaching from plastics. Just google BPA. IMHO, it's just another good reason to move away from polycarbonate material.
Polypropylene is my personal choice for tank tubing because it it inexpensive and durable. This is the same material that is used to make syringes. Polypropylene tubing can be purchased here: McMaster-Carr. You can use 5/8"id x 3/4od for Liquinator tanks, Lil mama tanks, Big daddy tanks, Jtanks, and others. This tubing has a very slight curve to it, but will not be noticeable when cut to a short length. You can see a pic of a tank I made using this tubing with Liquinator endcaps here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tank-mods/259319-heres-pic-my-polypropylene-tank.html
The popular DCTanks can now be found made from polypropylene tubing. Polypropylene will not crack from a chemical reaction from using juices on this list. For some reason, most vendors are not stating the fact that these are made from polypropylene. IMO this is an excellent selling point that they are missing... These tanks can be used with some XL cartos, or they can be easily cut down to fit a standard sized carto, my personal preference, since I have a few dozen tanks, and I can't afford the pricier ones.
Glass tanks are also a wonderful alternative.
I am personally not familiar with the Vision Stardust type tanks or any of the clearomizer types. From what I hear, they are polycarbonate and folks seem to be having the same issues with cracking/frosting. I am also not familiar personally with Vivi Nova's, since I have found my happy place with polypropylene DCTanks.
All of the ejuice/flavors listed below have been reported by at least one ecf member to cause problems for them. YMMV.
Some of these are premixed juices, some are flavorings that DIY'ers use. Contributions have been made by myself and other members. So far we have:
Here is the list. Everything listed here has caused someone a problem with a polycarbonate tank. Some have reported no issues whatsoever with some of these juices/flavorings. Use at your own risk with polycarbonate tanks.
Alien Vision Cravelope
Alien Vision Pineapple Pulp
Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffee cake, this is okay
Citrus acid
Clove oil
Cola(because of cinnamon)?
Decadent Vapors Bubblegum
Dekang Pina Colada/Tobacco mixed
DIY Flavorshack Tangerine
DIY Gummibear(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank).
E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively
Ecblends Apple Pie
Ecblends Banana
Ecblends Cinnamon Apple
ECBlends Gingerbread, double flavor
ECBlends Grape
ECBlends Rootbeer
Ectoplasm
Elixirliquids Cinnamon Death
Elixirliquids Deathday Cake
Elixirliquids Gummibear
Elixirliquids Heaven and Hell(cinnamon with menhtol)
Elixirliquids Rage(hot cinnamon)
FA Lemon Sicily Flavoring
FA Tiramisu
Flavor West Mojito Flavoring
Fuzion Vapor Gumby's Blood
Ginger's Fireball
HellaVapor's Raspberry Winta-green
High Desert Vapes Ecto Cooler
High Desert Vapes Applewood Tobacco
Honeysuckle
***** ***** Vanilla Cola
KBV Hummingbird Nectar
Lorann Butter Rum flavor
Lorann Butterscotch Flavoring
Lorann Horehound Flavoring
Lorann Peppermint oil
Mad Murdock's Radiator Pluid
MadVapes Black Licorice
Malic acid
Mimosa(because of the orange)
Mountain Oak Vapors Red Drop
Mrs. T's Kickin' Pineapple Mrs. T's Snickerdoodle
Mrs. T's Strawberry Lemonade
Mrs. T's Strawberry Shortcake
Mt. Baker Vapor Arnold Palmer
Mt. Baker Vapor Cream Soda
Mt. Baker Vapor Marachino Cherry
Mt. Baker Vapor says not to use their Amaretto, Cinnamon, Citrus flavors, Mt. Dew, Sweet Tarts, Green Apple, Ginger, and Lavender in plastic tanks
Mt. Dew flavoring
Mt. Vapor's Lemonade(endcaps melted)
My Vape Store Cinnabun
Neon Vapors neon Cherry
Nutmeg
Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with.pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
Rawrvapor AuRaWRa
Rawrvapor Banapple
Rawrvapor Hawaii Sunrise
Rawrvapor Strapple
Sassafras
Sour flavors
Tasty Vapor Atomic Cinnicide
Tasty Vapor Cherry Cola
Tasty Vapor Sherbet
Timmy's Double Double from Juicy Clear
TPA Blueberry Candy(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
TPA Blueberry(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
TPA Cherry Blossom flavoring
TPA Cinnamon Danish flavoring
TPA Earl Gray Tea flavoring
TPA Honeysuckle flavoring
TPA Lemon Lime flavoring
TPA Maraschino Cherry flavoring
TPA Pineapple flavoring
TPA Ripe Banana flavoring
TPA Rootbeer Flavoring
TPA RY4 Double Flavoring
TPA Spearmint flavoring
TPA Sweettarts
TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream flavoring
TPA Vanilla Custard flavoring
V2Cig's Menthol
V4L WOW Peppermint Nobacco
VAL Goddess
Vapalicious Gooey Butter Cake.
Vape Dude's Lemonade
Vaporgod Black Cherry
VaporGod Spearmint
Vapor Renu Mt. Dew Baha Blast and Strawberry Limeade
Vapor Renu Mt Dew Code Red
Vapor Renu Teaberry, Cherry Vanilla (possibly most of their flavors)
Vaporbomb Fire 'n Ice(cracked tank, melted rubber drip tip)
Vaporbomb Green Apple
Vaporbomb Hot Cinnamon Candy
Vaporbomb Sun Kissed
Vaporbomb Sweet Cherry
Vaporbomb Sweet Cinnamon Red Hots
Vaporgod Licorice
Vapor Room Cinnamon Red Hots
Virgin Vapor Luscious Lime
Virgin Vapor Sweet Summer Lemonade
Vixen Vapor RH Candy Cane
Vixen Vapor Rootbeer
Wintergreen juice or flavoring
Ziquid Zenthol
Perfumer's Apprentice lists triactetin as in ingredient in some of their flavors, so be sure to check that out. Triacetin has caused problems for many members.
Disclaimer: These are not "bad" juices. They just have the potential to cause cracking in tank systems using polycarbonate tubing.
Thanks to ECF Veteran member Stosh for alphabetizing it for me.
This list is fantastic and deserves a sticky (hopefully with future updates). Thanks for all the work.
It seems to me it might be simplier to list the tanks/clearo's made from polypropylene and resistant to cracking. I think it would put pressure on manufacturers to move to a safer material if buyers are requesting it. By the time a tank cracks, I've already vaped some of the melted plastic. With so many juices / flavoring reacting to polycarbonate, I think it's time that manufacturers need to change to something else. I doubt if there are many flavors that won't cause some amount of leaching from polycarbonates, even if it doesn't crack or cloud.
Maybe it's me, but I don't want to vape any amount of plastic. Yikes.
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Thanks Bob. I'll give that a try when I dig out an old obsolete cd. I've got some pink lemonade juice that took about five seconds to destroy a clearo. I'll see what happens when I drip it on a disc.
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