Let's participate! Long-term study on E-cigs - University of Geneva questionnaire
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Okay, that was freaking difficult. I think I flunked the questions about how many puffs per battery, day, tankful. I didn't know I was supposed to pay attention to that. I don't think my puffs per whatever match how many mls I go through in a month. I didn't know it was going to be a pop quiz. The only answers I'm sure I got right are that I no longer smoke tobacco, I'm a woman, and I'm not pregnant.
If it makes you feel any better,,,,I flunked those other ones too!!!!!are you SURE you're not pregnant?????
(kidding,,,,,,,,KIDDINGGGG!!!)
i filled it out and agreed to follow up, but i declined to let them send me mouth swabs, considering that I can't tell at a glance if they're for or against smoke-free alternatives.
Yeah.... I have no idea how many puffs I take. Could be 1 or 2 an hour, sometimes I'm chain vaping for an hour. Sometimes I vape for a few puffs a minute for one hour a day.
I wonder if little puffs count? Ya know, the short ones you take when you think the atty might be flooded or the cart burned and don't what to risk choking?
I took the Vermont survey that is listed here in ECF. Your not going to swab anything from me unless your my doctor. I'll answer questions but that one that ECF list is the only one I'll take or join in on. just my 
It's occurred to me that the study might primarily be focused on addiction and perception. Consider:
1) How many cigarettes did you/do you smoke? That's a no brainer. We can state how many cigarette we smoked and they can extrapolate the amount of nicotine used.
2) It then asks several questions about how much you vape. But the same questions are asked multiple ways: for example "how much liquid do you use per month" is followed by how often do you fill your tank/cart or drip? How many mls does your tank/cank hold? How many hours do you vape? How many puffs to a tank? How long does your battery stay charged? How many puffs per battery charge? etc. I think the point is to be confusing. To see if people are accurate in the perception of how much they vape.
3) Then of course there's the "I can't live without vaping" "I think constantly about vaping" "I think vaping has control over me" (or however those statements were worded) - Do you agree/disagree and to what degree.
4) A swab test to see how much nicotine is in your body at the time you do the swab. I imagine the swab kit will come with a questionnaire asking how much have you vaped in the last 24 hours? When did you start this morning? What nic strength, etc.
It concerns me that unless the swabs come back with lower amounts of nicotine than the vaper perceives, the results could be used to support a premise that vaping is highly addicting, vapers ingest more nicotine than when smoking cigarettes, and vapers are way off in how much nicotine they think they are ingesting.
1) How many cigarettes did you/do you smoke? That's a no brainer. We can state how many cigarette we smoked and they can extrapolate the amount of nicotine used.
2) It then asks several questions about how much you vape. But the same questions are asked multiple ways: for example "how much liquid do you use per month" is followed by how often do you fill your tank/cart or drip? How many mls does your tank/cank hold? How many hours do you vape? How many puffs to a tank? How long does your battery stay charged? How many puffs per battery charge? etc. I think the point is to be confusing. To see if people are accurate in the perception of how much they vape.
3) Then of course there's the "I can't live without vaping" "I think constantly about vaping" "I think vaping has control over me" (or however those statements were worded) - Do you agree/disagree and to what degree.
4) A swab test to see how much nicotine is in your body at the time you do the swab. I imagine the swab kit will come with a questionnaire asking how much have you vaped in the last 24 hours? When did you start this morning? What nic strength, etc.
It concerns me that unless the swabs come back with lower amounts of nicotine than the vaper perceives, the results could be used to support a premise that vaping is highly addicting, vapers ingest more nicotine than when smoking cigarettes, and vapers are way off in how much nicotine they think they are ingesting.
I did my bit...also participated in a couple of other pv-related surveys that were quite extensive lately.... I wonder what's up with all these?
I did a foogle search for tabach and this was under the main site
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For anyone wondering, these researchers are completely legit.
Here are some of their previous studies...
BMC Public Health | Full text | Electronic cigarettes: a survey of users
Saliva cotinine levels in users of electronic cigarettes
I think there may be a few more, and you can look them up by Googling the following...
jean-francois etter electronic cigarettes
Here are some of their previous studies...
BMC Public Health | Full text | Electronic cigarettes: a survey of users
Saliva cotinine levels in users of electronic cigarettes
I think there may be a few more, and you can look them up by Googling the following...
jean-francois etter electronic cigarettes
All studies done to this point have consistently shown that it isn't easy for vapers to have as much cotinine as smokers.
I participated. Personally I wouldn't mind sending them a swab so long as they pay for the postage. It will be interesting to see the results of this study.
I took it and signed up for the swabs. I think they send you a swab, not come to your house and swab you. LOL.
As far as I recall Etter is more open minded than some (seems to actually be interested in real results rather than validating a preconceived belief), and I think he even did a follow up study on cotinine based on feedback from vapers. If i'm remembering the correct researcher, he originally found that e- cigs didn't deliver much nicotine (novice users, short vape times) then changed his methods based on advice from vapers and got cotinine results more in line with what we'd expect (inhaling style and usage affects how much nic we get).
As far as I recall Etter is more open minded than some (seems to actually be interested in real results rather than validating a preconceived belief), and I think he even did a follow up study on cotinine based on feedback from vapers. If i'm remembering the correct researcher, he originally found that e- cigs didn't deliver much nicotine (novice users, short vape times) then changed his methods based on advice from vapers and got cotinine results more in line with what we'd expect (inhaling style and usage affects how much nic we get).
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