Let's Talk Hardware

[Dusty_D]

I saw on some video review (again,do not remember who) that said the dna will go down to 0.5ohms but it will start flashing at around 0.7 or 0.8 ohms just as a warning. Still works to 0.5 but just alerts you as you approach it. Not sure about how it handles volts.

Yeah, it's supposed to go all the way to .5, but then I guess it acts more like a mech at that point. Hmm..interesting!

 

[rdsok]

I'm a bit confused by this:

Too low power setting: The dna 30D puts out a minimum of 4 volts. With low power settings (7 to 8
watts) and low resistance atomizers (below 2 ohms) the dna will sometimes be unable to provide a low
enough power output to be power regulating. If this is the case, the Ohms display will be flashing. The
device will still operate.

I've got a 1.4ohm coil on the KFL and have it set for 10W. It says it does not put out anything under 4v, and yet it's firing the coil at 3.8v. The ohms are flashing and it made me look up why.

Am I going to need to go back to my 1.5ohm plus builds on here?

Check the voltage on the battery itself... I suspect it's also at 3.8v or close too it.

 

[Bronze]

Yeah, it's supposed to go all the way to .5, but then I guess it acts more like a mech at that point. Hmm..interesting!

I don't know. I kind of got the impression it as still regulating at 0.5 watts. The flashing was just an alert that you were approaching the minimum. You're making it sound like the voltage limit is not an alert but actually puts it in mech mode. I'd probably want to run that up the flag pole with the Zen team. I find that confusing as well.

 

[Bimini Twist]

Twist, I would likely get the rDNA30 with the 18650 capacity. Got a question, do people rotate batteries in the rDNA30? It has that external USB charging port as if to suggest the battery needs to remain in the box for charging. But it also appears you can remove the back panel and rotate batteries. Perhaps not the most convenient access but it can be done. My gripe with the small DNA30 is the integrated battery. Can't rotate batteries so once it is dead you have to wait for it to charge again...not to mention you have to send it in once the battery dies.

Truthfully, I don't know if I would get a DNA30 but if I did,the rDNA30 looks most interesting. A nice, small, compact unit that has heft. Much smaller than the Hana and more weight. That impresses me.

If they had the rDNA available when I purchased, I would have gotten it and would probably rotate the battery. Heck, I always did that with my flip phones back before these newfangled, glass covered, smarter than I phones arrived on the scene. I just don't like putting a whole gadget away for charging.

 

[Bronze]

If they had the rDNA available when I purchased, I would have gotten it and would probably rotate the battery. Heck, I always did that with my flip phones back before these newfangled, glass covered, smarter than I phones arrived on the scene. I just don't like putting a whole gadget away for charging.

Agree. Down time for charging is a PITA. The rDNA is not a whole lot bigger than the standard DNA either. Takes a allen wrench to remove the back cover but I suppose that's a small price to pay to allow rotating batteries.

 

[Dusty_D]

I don't know. I kind of got the impression it as still regulating at 0.5 watts. The flashing was just an alert that you were approaching the minimum. You're making it sound like the voltage limit is not an alert but actually puts it in mech mode. I'd probably want to run that up the flag pole with the Zen team. I find that confusing as well.

I'll call them after lunch.. they are available between 1 and 6pm.

 

[Bimini Twist]

Yes, the biggest negative of a weighty mod is that it is not pocket friendly. No two ways about that. Honestly, I don't have any pocket friendly PVs so I just don't put it there anymore. Kind of a disadvantage.

I still do. I don't care that people laugh at my sagging shirt, thinking I buttoned it wrong or something. I like it when I wear a Guayabera shirt, though. 4 pockets so I can balance the weight with one or more mods on each side

 

[rdsok]

I don't know. I kind of got the impression it as still regulating at 0.5 watts. The flashing was just an alert that you were approaching the minimum. You're making it sound like the voltage limit is not an alert but actually puts it in mech mode. I'd probably want to run that up the flag pole with the Zen team. I find that confusing as well.

The flashing is to alert you that the mod isn't regulating at that setting. The Evolv DNA30 is a boost only circuit... it can't buck the circuit down. Using a coil with lower ohms and also set at a lower wattage, the device won't regulate at some point but it depends on the ohms of the coil and the amount of actual voltage the battery is putting out.

 

[Bronze]

I still do. I don't care that people laugh at my sagging shirt, thinking I buttoned it wrong or something. I like it when I wear a Guayabera shirt, though. 4 pockets so I can balance the weight with one or more mods on each side

I wear lots of Pocket-T's. My gear is so heavy it causes the top pocket corners to tear.

 

[Bronze]

The flashing is to alert you that the mod isn't regulating at that setting. The Evolv DNA30 is a boost only circuit... it can't buck the circuit down. Using a coil with lower ohms and also set at a lower wattage, the device won't regulate at some point but it depends on the ohms of the coil and the amount of actual voltage the battery is putting out.

Makes sense. And now I remember PB complaining that it didn't buck now that you mention it.

 

[Bimini Twist]

I'm a bit confused by this:

Too low power setting: The DNA 30D puts out a minimum of 4 volts. With low power settings (7 to 8
watts) and low resistance atomizers (below 2 ohms) the DNA will sometimes be unable to provide a low
enough power output to be power regulating. If this is the case, the Ohms display will be flashing. The
device will still operate.

I've got a 1.4ohm coil on the KFL and have it set for 10W. It says it does not put out anything under 4v, and yet it's firing the coil at 3.8v. The ohms are flashing and it made me look up why.

Am I going to need to go back to my 1.5ohm plus builds on here?

Exactly what I don't like about the DNA30. Whether it puts out direct battery voltage or regulated 4 volts, it is NOT what I want to experience. I have to admit that I haven't used it with "standard" resistance yet. I suppose I should recoil something around here just for that purpose. Or wait for my Veritas (it's in Jersey City today).

 

[rdsok]

Makes sense. And now I remember PB complaining that it didn't buck now that you mention it.

Technically speaking... on a regulated mod using sub-ohms just doesn't make sense, it's a waste of battery only. Use a higher ohm coil and increase your voltage ( decreasing the amp load which extends battery life ) and you should still get the same effective results that a sub-ohm on a mech gives only it's more efficient.

 

[Dusty_D]

Technically speaking... on a regulated mod using sub-ohms just doesn't make sense, it's a waste of battery only. Use a higher ohm coil and increase your voltage ( decreasing the amp load which extends battery life ) and you should still get the same effective results that a sub-ohm on a mech gives only it's more efficient.

Yeah, definitely makes sense to go back to my 1.8 - 2ohm builds. I started building them lower because I used to keep swapping KFL's between my Regulated devices and my E-pipes. Now that I have a dedicated KFL for the Pipe, I don't need to build my regulated ones so low.

Thanks for the info folks.

 

[Voltron]

As I'm buiding a new single coil on my Magma, I'm wondering what the ideal ohm reading would be if I'm looking for a cooler, Bronze-like vape. My first coil measured 2.2ohm, and seems to heat up the juice (70%PG) even at the lowest voltage setting (3.3 volts).

Retic suggested I do less wraps, but at 1.5 to 1.8ohm, I fear it would be too hot for me even at 3.3 volts. I would appreciate any suggestions on a good combination for my juice. I'm gonna have to order my favorites with higher VG content (50/50) and lower nic (6mg) just for these RDA's. While 70% PG works great for me in clearos, it's a bit too harsh on the Magma with the monster tokes it delivers.

 

[Evilcon666]

As I'm buiding a new single coil on my Magma, I'm wondering what the ideal ohm reading would be if I'm looking for a cooler, Bronze-like vape. My first coil measured 2.2ohm, and seems to heat up the juice (70%PG) even at the lowest voltage setting (3.3 volts). Retic suggested I do less wraps, but at 1.5 to 1.8ohm, I fear it would be too hot for me even at 3.3 volts. I would appreciate any suggestions on a good combination for my juice. I'm gonna have to order my favorites with higher VG content (50/50) and lower nic (6mg) just for these RDA's. While 70% PG works great for me in clearos, it's a bit too harsh on the Magma with the monster tokes it delivers.

I wish I could help you here. I got myself a magma yesterday. But I love subObhming. Currently at .6 want to even lower.

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[Bimini Twist]

Same here, Dusty. I did so much swapping between mechs & regulated that I stopped building higher ohm coils. I really should get off my lazy .... and build one just for the DNA.














On a side note, vaperversary of sorts...

 

[retic1959]

As I'm buiding a new single coil on my Magma, I'm wondering what the ideal ohm reading would be if I'm looking for a cooler, Bronze-like vape. My first coil measured 2.2ohm, and seems to heat up the juice (70%PG) even at the lowest voltage setting (3.3 volts). Retic suggested I do less wraps, but at 1.5 to 1.8ohm, I fear it would be too hot for me even at 3.3 volts. I would appreciate any suggestions on a good combination for my juice. I'm gonna have to order my favorites with higher VG content (50/50) and lower nic (6mg) just for these RDA's. While 70% PG works great for me in clearos, it's a bit too harsh on the Magma with the monster tokes it delivers.

Voltron Dusty went to 3mg nic and 100%VG just for the Magma and I've always been a high VG user , I usually run at .7-.8 ohms with dual coils in the Magma and even 10mg nic at 100%VG can be too much , I would suggest getting some zero nic 100%VG juice to mix with your juice for use in the Magma , if you build higher than you already are you are gonna loose flavor but going lower might vaporize you . BTW did you get the Kayfun mini built yet ?

 

[Voltron]

BTW did you get the Kayfun mini built yet ?

Not yet. I'm having too much fun with the Magma right now.

I think I'll get around to it this weekend or next week. I'll report back.

BTW, before I pull the trigger on the SVD, do you still think it would fit my needs?

 

[retic1959]

Not yet. I'm having too much fun with the Magma right now. I think I'll get around to it this weekend or next week. I'll report back. BTW, before I pull the trigger on the SVD, do you still think it would fit my needs?

It will definitely fit your needs , I think it's one of the best low price mods available , it has more capabilities than some mods at 5 times the price .

 

[retic1959]

Voltron I forgot to add that the Kayfun might have you wanting to lower your nic as well , it's a big step up from clearos .