Let's talk super concentrates.
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*Edit* I see other folks in this thread mentioned them being clearer, now that I read more closely.
On my next order I am for sure going to try these VZ concentrates!!!
I just started DIY today-- I started with 5ml test batches and then mixed 30ml batches. I used Lorann's Cherry, and it took a lot of flavoring and is cherry red.
I know I will use less of these super concentrates-- how are they on the artificial coloring? I dont want to clog my clearomizer heads with this red dye.
I am most interested in the Vaper Zone concentrates
On my next order I am for sure going to try these VZ concentrates!!!
I just started DIY today-- I started with 5ml test batches and then mixed 30ml batches. I used Lorann's Cherry, and it took a lot of flavoring and is cherry red.
I know I will use less of these super concentrates-- how are they on the artificial coloring? I dont want to clog my clearomizer heads with this red dye.
I am most interested in the Vaper Zone concentrates
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Don't think the SC's (or most flavorings sold especially for vaping) contain any artificial flavorings.
Any color you get will most likely be from tannins in the flavor molecules itself, reactions with your base & nic oxidization.
Lorann's is actually a food/bakery flavoring, I believe, so not as concentrated. Dunno if they have artificial colorings though.
The fact you use a lot less actual flavor with the SC's does make for less crud buildup on your coil.
Any color you get will most likely be from tannins in the flavor molecules itself, reactions with your base & nic oxidization.
Lorann's is actually a food/bakery flavoring, I believe, so not as concentrated. Dunno if they have artificial colorings though.
The fact you use a lot less actual flavor with the SC's does make for less crud buildup on your coil.
nice, I think I will go with the SC's to avoid the crud buildup, plus I got the mixing bug and cant wait to try all of these flavors out in the DIY world
Just want to mention the newer SC Gourmet flavors at Vaping Zone I have tried so far need 1% or under for me---really really concentrated and worth the cost IMO.
Really want to try the Black Cigar (fka Black N Mild) from VZ. Went to order the other night though and there was something wrong with the site and/or my internet. I love tobacco vapes. (RY4, double RY4, 555 is ok) Any other tobacco blends from VZ that you'd recommend? I'm mainly interested in tobaccos since I seem to enjoy those most (compared to fruits, deserts, etc) It seems Real Cig is a fan favorite. I'd love to find a nice vanilla cigar/cigarette flavor. Sept wolves looked interesting by its description. I've never tried VZ flavors. I mainly use TPA.
Someone who has tried more of them could probably give a better answer... I've only tried four of the VZ SC tobaccos (as well as many from ECX). I really like the realcig; the 555 was not very flavorful, but still very good; french pipe is excellent if you like pipe tobacco; flue cured was also good, but a little bit grassy tasting (subtle enough for it to still be enjoyable even though I don't like grassy tobaccos). Anyway, I'm sure people will come along to recommend favorites, but I guess what I'm getting at is that it's hard to go wrong with the SC (IMO).
I know a lot of people recommend using Hangsens ranges up around 7 or 8%, but after reading Jimi's posts about how much he liked them down in the SC range (I think he was dong 2.8%), I gave that a try. At 3% I'm liking my Hangsens much more than I ever did at 8%. So, I think the Hangsens could be counted as more SC flavors. Actually, I'm liking the Hangsen tobaccos even more than the other SC.
I tried the sc flavors and they were sickning sweet, 3 vapes and I was ready to throw up. I can vape sweet flavors from any other vendor so not sure whats in it.
flavors do go bad, use up what you buy
flavors do go bad, use up what you buy
Looks like I'll be getting Real Cig. lol. I was looking at French Pipe as well. I don't know if I like pipe tobacco TBH. When I smoked, I only smoked analogs and occasionally Black N Mild's. The thing that worries me about Black Cigar (BnM) is that people have stated there's a strong chocolate taste. I have yet to vape any chocolate juices that I've liked. I love the real thing but every chocolate flavoring tastes like... well... chocolate flavoring which I find disgusting.
To give people an idea of tobacco flavorings I like, here's a list: Tpa- Tobacco Absolute, Ry4, Ry4 double, 555 DK tobacco (not my fav tho), Black Honey and Seedman's Captain Black
To give people an idea of tobacco flavorings I like, here's a list: Tpa- Tobacco Absolute, Ry4, Ry4 double, 555 DK tobacco (not my fav tho), Black Honey and Seedman's Captain Black
you have got to try the honey flue cured and virginia flue cured. The french pipe is especially nice when mixing with fruit flavor.... I use real cig to make my menthol juice. I don't really like any of those cig. brand flavors.
Shilo, you read my mind! I was just wondering if the "Gourmet" SC's were any good. Which have you tried?
It's not a STRONG chocolate taste, but it does have a mild chocolate taste .. I have several friends I make it for, I add some SC Cream to it and they say it tastes like a real Belgian Chocolate candy that way LOL.
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I'll probably have to get the Black N Mild just to get it. Been eying it for so long and every review I've seen of it, people like it.
Gtseng- I have regular Flue Cured from TPA. Wondering what Flue Cured is?? Does it have a specific note/flavor to them?
Regarding the gourmet flavors, I'm interested to know this as well as the regular line of flavorings VZ offers. I have a feeling my order to them is going to be no joke.
Gtseng- I have regular Flue Cured from TPA. Wondering what Flue Cured is?? Does it have a specific note/flavor to them?
Regarding the gourmet flavors, I'm interested to know this as well as the regular line of flavorings VZ offers. I have a feeling my order to them is going to be no joke.
I believe it was PurelyScientific who I've seen recommending adding vanilla to chocolates. He says they give the chocolate a more realistic flavor. I don't recall doing this so I'll have to give it a shot. So far, the chocolates I've tried are Flavour West Double Dutch chocolate and TPA Double Chocolate (dark). Also tried Snickers by Flavour West. Didn't like the chocolate in any of them
If you like a mild chocolate you'll probably like the Black Cigar aka Black&Mild. If you want a pretty good and a bit stronger tobacco that also has a mild chocolate then for sure try the Yuco Tobacco in the Gourmet group which is REALLY super concentrated .. some use it at 1 drop per 2 mls but I find even that a little too strong so I make it at just 1 drop per 4 mls.
.. which is the % I use for the Tobacco ones 
I've been buying VapingZone SC's for a long time...I keep going through the Dunhill like crazy...I mix it at about 5% with 36mg/ml for my eRoll's...really is flavorful and with 100% VG, I get tons of great vapor. I figure I'm at about 20cents for my vaping habit a day currently, and I go through at least 6ml of fluid a day!
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