Lightening up a heavy mix.

[Johntodd]

I have this fantastic DIY recipe mixed up. It's been time-steeped and ultrasonic steeped. It's delicious and I could just gush on and on about how great it is.

But it has one drawback - it's very heavy. Heavy on the throat hit, heavy in my chest, etc.

I don't want to mess it up. But, is there a way to "lighten" the heaviness?

I have EM and AP. They're not in the recipe. I wanted to check before I just put a little in there.

Here's the recipe. All flavors are VapingZone Super Concentrated; or VZ Gourmet.

16 drop Seven Star
12 drop Virginia Flue Cured
12 drop TAB (not an SC flavor)
16 drop Vanilla
6 drop Coffee
6 drop Hazelnut
8 drop Bavarian Cream
6 drop Chocolate
8 drop Caramel Candy
55 milliliter Vegetable Glycerin
1 grams Nicotine 100mg/ml

Basically a 2 ounce bottle of juice.

Yes, I do drops. Can't do anything else because my scale won't measure parts of a gram.

He'p me, Mixmasters!

Thanks!
-Johntodd

EDIT: I should mention that it's also crockpot steeped. I do that for 4 hours to drive off the alcohol from the flavorings. "Keep Warm" setting on the crockpot.

 

[93gc40]

IF it was me the TH would be from the nic and some of the flavors, so I'd reduce the nic. I get heavy chest from too much VG. So I would replace some of the nic and VG with PG.

 

[Johntodd]

I don't think that's it. The nic level in this is 1.5mg/ml, and I always use max VG. All my other recipes are made like that and they don't have the heaviness problem.

Thanks;
-Johntodd

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Smooth and vape Wizard are supposed to do just what you are looking for, but I have never used them. I'm sure one of the gurus will chime in soon, but that would be my first guess at a fix.

 

[93gc40]

Could be you need to adjust the vape to the juice. Have you gone to a new device, build or atty? Juice problems are not always because of the juice.

 

[Johntodd]

I've tried different attys and wattages. It's sweeter at 15-20 watts and more tobacco-y at 35-50watts.

But always heavy.

 

[Johntodd]

Edited the OP for new info below the thanks.

 

[Johntodd]

Bump-a-roony because I know somebody has the answer.

Perhaps it over flavored? Maybe just cut it with plain VG?

 

[dannyv45]

Before I adjusted the juice I would open up the air intake on your device to allow more air in and see if that reduces it. Or try lowering the heat. If that don't do it. Take about 5ml's of the juice and add a few drops of water at a time and see if that lightens the chest heavyness. I know for me high VG mixes seem to be heaver on my chest then 50/50's and thinning it helps expecially in this dry cold whether. At 1.5mg NIC I don't think that would cause the harshness unless the NIC was really old or garbage NIC so it could be to much heat or one or more of the flavorings. I would start by sampling the flavorings one at a time in a 5ml base starting with the tobaccos then the coffee then the hazelnut. If any of those come through harsh then find a different manufacture of that flavor. Can't really help you with the flavor amounts as I don't work in drops and really don't have the time to convert that into percentages but it does seem like your using a lot of tobacco.

 

[Johntodd]

Sad to say, I've maxed out airflow, too. I've tried everything related to hardware that I can think of within the limits of what I've got. More air, less air, higher watts, lower watts, different devices, etc.

Here is the original recipe. I've translated it into the flavors I have and kept the percentages the same converted to drops (actual experience with some flavors causes a minor deviation from that).

2% Dusk (FA)
1.5% Virginia Tobacco (Inawera)
1% Vanilla Pipe (Inawera)
1% Vanilla (Inawera)
0.75% Coffee Espresso (FA)
0.75% Chocolate (FA)
0.5% Tobacco Symphony (Inawera)
0.5% Chestnut (FA)
0.5% Catalan Cream (FA)
0.5% Caramel (FA)

But my other juices, all MAX VG with 1.5 NIC do not have the heaviness problem any time on any builds/watts/airflow setup. I think it's this juice recipe.

 

[dannyv45]

Do you get heavyness in your chest vaping just the plain base?. If it's not hardware or base that leaves flavoring then.

 

[USACelt]

I agree with danny, There are a few flavors that just don't get along with Me. No real rhyme or reason I can find. watermelon at this point is the worst offender for Me, any percentage and heavy lungs and sore throat.

 

[JD1]

I'd try taking out 3 flavors at a time in a small batch, with little steep time, to try to get to a mix that isn't heavy on your chest, then start narrowing down from there. I'd say start with the coffee, chocolate, and chestnut. Anyways, it's the process of elimination that will get you to an answer.

 

[Johntodd]

OK, so after I vaped it down a bit, I ended up adding about 25% by volume of plain VG to dilute it.

Problem solved! It was overflavored and the dilution brought out the best flavors and also killed the heaviness.

Lesson learned.

Thanks everybody!
-Johntodd