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charlie1465

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Sound advice, everything else being equal...

But realistically, if smoking is harm reduction from chew or dip, why would anyone start smoking if they didn't do one of those first? At least now, nicotine free is an option. How many people did Virgina Slim's hook as a diet aide? Is smoking cool? .... no.
Did anyone see the report about thecafeine related death in Australia? There are MANY dangerous things people do. Is it my job to stop them? No. Can I help them do something smarter and safer? I'd like to think so. Immidately discouraging someone because they aren't doing things exactly how or for the same reasons as me is pedantic and hypocritical. Also, take away that caffeine is just as powerful as nicotine. Both can kill.

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Completely agree with you except that the purpose of my response was to at least try to get the OP to maybe think about stopping....there is a relatively short window until the nic starts to become a crutch...

If he continues then I'll be the first to help but don't have a go at me for at least trying to do the right thing....it comes across as a bit holier than thou actually :D
 

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I think if vaping is ever to become mainstream we're going to have to accept it that some non-smokers are going to start it, for the same reason that non-smokers start cigarettes. Nicotine is a satisfying reward and an opportunity to take a relaxing break. It's especially popular among people who work in stressful environments like waiters & cooks, soldiers*, company managers, and nurses. It pairs beautifully with caffeine. It's also known to improve focus and concentration, as well as memory and learning, so it's no surprise to see students and creative types using it.

*I picked up smoking when I was in military boot camp one summer. It was the only way to take a break without being accused of loafing.
 

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I think if vaping is ever to become mainstream we're going to have to accept it that some non-smokers are going to start it, for the same reason that non-smokers start cigarettes. Nicotine is a satisfying reward and an opportunity to take a relaxing break. It's especially popular among people who work in stressful environments like waiters & cooks, soldiers, company managers, and nurses. It pairs beautifully with caffeine. It's also known to improve focus and concentration, as well as memory and learning, so it's no surprise to see students and creative types using it.

I do not agree. At all. Seriously. Years ago in this forum, I remember us running anyone out of here who joined and proclaimed they did not smoke, but wanted to get into vaping. We ran them right off. That made sense to me. Now though, there are 0 nicotine e-juices available. So, at the very least, we should be pointing them to those, NOT being a part of getting them addicted to nicotine. To each their own, but I will not be a part of that. Not now; not ever. Nor do I think it is a good idea for this forum to be a part of it, either.
 

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Usually if you are under the doctors care, especially for weight loss - most doctors advise (and most insurance requires pre-counseling, in addition to other qualifying co-morbidities) getting therapy to help you work on your food addiction to get to your underlying root. I believe that they would also require follow up appointments to make sure everything is on track and you are successful in your weight loss journey. If you need help, please contact your surgeons office for recommendations if they haven't already required it. Good luck however, I would not recommend vaping for you.
 
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Vaping nicotine seems better than using (or abusing) wacky prescription drugs like adderall, ritalin or opioids, or getting stoned, or turning to the bottle. It's pretty simple: people like mind-altering drugs and will use them; that's human nature and it's futile to oppose it. Even in the animal kingdom, cats have their catnip, birds and monkeys have their fermenting berries.

When I was growing up, medication was uncommon enough that we didn't feel the need to abbreviate the term. Smoking and drinking were common and doctor visits were semi-annual. These days, fewer people smoke and drink, but prescription drug cocktails so commonplace we just call them 'meds'. The populace has substituted one thing for another and the only difference is that they can blame their doctors for the consequences instead of themselves.
 

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I don't recommend relying on chemical crutches of any kind. Yoga can improve memory, focus, as well as being a break without loafing. It also improves the mood, and is relaxing. Nicotine, or any stimulant, would detract from all of these qualities.

Would it help someone who wants to eat when they can't? Probably. Would vaping? Probably better. Would both be better than either alone? I'd bet so. Is vaping nicotine or caffeine advisable? Most definitely not. On their own, either could kill you. With delivery devices such as mods, their can be issues that aren't for those without preexisting tolerance.
 
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I don't recommend relying on chemical crutches of any kind
You're right. It's also incredibly validating to overcome a dependence on a chemical crutch. Be it through yoga and meditation, prayer and reflection, determination and willpower, a brush with death, or simply growing wiser and more self-reliant with age. We don't need any of those crutches, and it can be disheartening to see others succumb. But the reward is in the journey and nobody can be carried. The triumph of the human mind is a cause for celebration.
 
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First off, really sorry to anyone whom I might've offender by my thread. I was just looking for advice.
In regards to the device I bought, it was an SX Mini as I heard it's the best in the market.
The reason I started vaping was to help me out with my appetite as I don't have the same appetite any more (which is very good), and to help me relieve the stress as it gets my mind off things. I read that it's the safest option when it comes to "smoking" and I really am planning on getting 0 MG Nicotine juices. The reason I chose 3 is that I know that the body does release nicotine and for a non-regular smoker (smokes occasionally), it shouldn't have that much harm yet there's still some harm which is why I decided to switch to the 0 mg. In case I do so, will there still be any setbacks?
To all those who welcomed me and said nice things, you guys made me smile :) Thanks a lot for being nice and helpful.
 

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...for a non-regular smoker (smokes occasionally), it shouldn't have that much harm yet there's still some harm which is why I decided to switch to the 0 mg. In case I do so, will there still be any setbacks?
Even for previous smokers, there is often a transition period between smoking and vaping. Coughing, lightheadedness, dry or sore throat would be the more common symptoms. It takes time for smokers to adjust to inhaling smoke, and it often requires some time for vapers to adjust to inhaling vapor. The body adapts.

And again, although most vapors agree that vaping is 95% safer than smoking, there may still be risks we are not aware of with vaping that only long term studies might find in the future. The flavoring agents used to flavor e-liquid are generally considered safe to eat, but no longer term studies are available to determine how safe they are to inhale.

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Welcome back VapeNation. We all got a bit off track with this thread. Some of the people here are very concerned that you might not know what you have got into (and even I agree heavy vaping with any nicotine could be too much for you) But, I also see people on here (ex-smokers) talking about vaping 24 mg nic (freebase, not salts) and nobody even blinks. That's why I didn't understand the "over-reaction". I looked up SX Mini, but they have 13 watt and 200 watt, so others make a good point about wanting to know exactly what device you use, how much you vape, what wattage you use, ect. Good to know they didn't scare you off, and some of us are more forgiving than others. Are you aware that coils need to be replaced often? (or pods... whatever your device uses) There is something I do need to say. If you are underage (you don't have to say) then I would totally agree about you not vaping (especially nicotine) and kindly suggest you get the heck away from these forums. There has been a huge attack on vaping because of teen use... we don't need that!
 

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I have to say, as much as I enjoy vaping I would never pressure anyone not to do it. I might not encourage a non-smoker to start vaping but if they wanted to give it a try I wouldn't see a problem.

From what I've picked up over the years nicotine isn't that bad when it's not mixed with the other crap in cigs. About as addictive and harmful as caffeine. The limited numbers available suggest that most non-smokers who start vaping for fun don't do it for long. From my own experience and recorded experience here from others, it's common for vapers to reduce their nicotine intake over time. That's not how addictions tend to work.

I could be wrong, but that's what I think.

May be some beneficial side effects as well, like keeping Alzheimer's at bay and general mood control. I can easily see how it might help with appetite control. And it's seriously a lot of fun.

So my advice to VapeNation is, don't worry about vaping, and if you find it helps go ahead. The symptoms you describe do sound a lot like too much nic though so keep an eye on that. Regardless of previous nicotine usage people have different tolerance levels.
 

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It's normal to get a little light headed when vaping nicotine, especially after prolonged periods not vaping, like after a night of sleep. If you don't like it you could lower or eliminate the nic content in the juice you use, and before you ask, yes, nicotine intake can act as a mild laxative also. jfi
 
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Welcome back. Glad we didn't scare you off with infernal politics. Knowing which sx you have is key.

You may have heard that YiHi is best, and bought their lower end model, which is, not so much... ......
just so you're aware, there are other things in, and produced by, vapes and their juice that could cause your, as well as other symptoms. I'd actually encourage you, if you were to continue to vape, to seek out something like the lowest end YiHi, but something more user friendly.
 

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I quit reading responses after the eleventy-fifty wall of advice. As I understand, you have an eating disorder? No worries. Against the grain advice that's been provided, but is a relevant fact related to your new nicotine use (and the initiative to do so), nicotine is known to be a mild hunger suppressant, increase mental alertness, enhance mood, stave some effects of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and its only known health detriment is that it is a vasoconstrictor. Basically, if you have, or are prone to, high blood pressure, it can compound or contribute to HBP. That's it. Oh yeah, and it's addictive... to what degree... Jury's still out.

Anyway, change your burnt coil/wick and enjoy your days! Good luck with recovery from surgery, too.
 

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@VapeNation Can you please provide some usefull info?
  • Are you sure you are using 3mg/ml (I.e. 0.3%)juice and not 3%(I.e. 30mg/ml) Nic salt?(See the bottle).
  • What is your topper?( Pod?Tank)?
  • What is the coils resistance?
  • Wattage applied(Power setting)
  • How long are your pulls?
  • Are you doing direct to lung or mouth to lung inhales?
 

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I'll be getting 0 MG nicotine very soon but it's kind of my way out of "depression" one might say.
Welcome and glad you joined.
Suggest staying out of depression by any non destructive means possible. Glad to hear you dropped the nicotine. Please see a doctor if problem persists.
 
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