Like Dekang "Blackto" but higher quality?

[Krib]

Hi gang. Like many, I started out vaping with mass-market juice: Dekang Dark Tobacco, labeled "Blackto" on the bottle. It's a pretty heavy tobacco flavor, definitely on the sweet side, and I love it.

I've since moved on to the better tobacco vendors (The Vapor Chef, Indigo, got some HHV stuff coming in) but I've just never found anything that tasted like my original vape.

Now, I know my taste buds have changed (it's about four months in), but can anyone recommend a better quality juice that might be similar? I've sampled a lot of tobacco flavors, and while some of them were great, nothing was actually like the Blackto. And it's impossible to use juice reviews to find the answer, since that answer could only come from someone that's actually tasted the stuff

I guess I should list the ones I've tried (this isn't all the juices I've tried, just the ones I thought might be similar):

Vapor Chef - Beeblebrox, Slartibartfest, Deep Thought
Indigo - The Duke, Indigo RY, Oorah, Indigo Express

If anyone has a suggestion I'll be pretty grateful. Can't hurt to have more tiny bottles lying around....

Thanks!

 

[Krib]

I'm sure this is going to sink, and that's fine because it's such a specific question. I realize that I should have asked something a bit more general that I just thought of! Does anyone know of juice vendors that might be cool with me ASKING them to help me match the flavor I'm looking for?

I'm not really ready for DIY, but I feel like maybe something like that could be out there.

 

[guppy]

Dekang is some bad juice in my opinion... I think anything out in the market is a step up. I started with that stuff as well and after exploring, man... you really cant stick to 1.

 

[Krib]

Oh, I agree that it is. And I usually keep a few juices in the rotation. It's more that I just miss that flavor. I want it back, just not by Dekang! I don't really trust what's in that stuff.

 

[patkin]

I'll start with a bit about my choices so you can get an idea. I vape tobaccos and a few months ago, when purchasing an eroll, the vendor carried Dekang. I was blown away by the prices so tried some even though some on ECF give them a bad wrap. I actually found some of them (I tried many) better than some USA-mades and worse than some others. The only consistent objection I have had is they're shorter on flavor than most USA-mades. That's not good for the eroll.. a tank/clearo system. So, here's what I do. Moutain Vapors makes strong flavors but only make 50/50 mixes. I can't vape those straight so I mix Dekang Dark USA (USA Mix Red blend) about 50/50 which lowers the VG for me as well as boosting flavor because MV juices are strong flavor.

Its hard to talk Dekang because of the way they name their juices. I saw a site that gave the multiple names they have for each juice and some have as many as six different names. If by "Dark" you mean "Dark USA" then Moutain Vapor carries two like it but stronger as I said. They call those both USA mixes but one is USA Rich and has stronger tobacco notes. They parallel Dekang's USA and USA Red respectively. Anyway, their juices are way more expensive than Dekang but if you do as I do and mix the two, it saves on cost and you can mix them to your taste both for flavor and nic levels... or you can order higher nic than you usually do and add VG or PG to bring the flavor down closer to what you like about Dekang.

So far, I like all of Moutain Vapor's tobacco juices and think you would too. Read what others say in the site juice revies as they pretty well tell the story on each of them. Hope that helps.

PS: I truly don't know what "higher quality" means as I don't agree with those who bash them. You can view their labs/mfg on youtube and you can't see that for most USA vendors/companies. Non of their tobacco juices clog my atties either.... they're clear. In fact, the Dekang Dark USA zero nic looks exactly like water. I order 2.6% USA Mix from MV and add zero nic Dark Dekang to bring it down. The bonus is it also makes my juice more atty-friendly.