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It worked for me, when I was trying to find a way to not vape quite so often; went from 9mg to 10mg, and found I could actually set it down sometimes. :thumb:

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It worked for me, when I was trying to find a way to not vape quite so often; went from 9mg to 10mg, and found I could actually set it down sometimes. :thumb:

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That's encouraging! I'd already made up about 9 60ml. bottles of my juice brew...but I figure it wouldn't be that hard to just go back and squirt in another +/- 1ml or so of nic in each to pump it up a bit! (Oh...and I made up that many bottles over the course of some time, not all at once!)
 

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That's encouraging! I'd already made up about 9 60ml. bottles of my juice brew...but I figure it wouldn't be that hard to just go back and squirt in another +/- 1ml or so of nic in each to pump it up a bit! (Oh...and I made up that many bottles over the course of some time, not all at once!)

I had to be very careful with it, because there's a certain amount I'm going to vape, no matter the nic level; I found 12mg much too strong, made me feel extremely nauseous. I was able to push it as far as 11mg, but I found that sometimes I'd get the sharp little abdominal pains; 10.5mg, and I was fine. I finally just kept it at 10mg because it made measuring the 100mg nicotine very easy. :D

It's funny though; I was used to 10mg for almost a year, but recently started dropping it, to get it to about 5mg for the cold months; I'm now at 7.5mg, and I don't vape any more frequently than when it was 10mg. In my own case, I suspect that's because I've been off cigarettes long enough that I'm quite calm about vaping now, don't feel that "burning need."

I actually had a sort of "smoking dream" last night, but it was only "sort of", because it wasn't me smoking, but someone else; they tossed the cigarette almost whole from a car window, and I kept asking, what kind was it? Was it a virginia slim? But then, in the dream, I realized it really didn't matter, since I didn't smoke anymore. :D That's the kind of 'smoking dreams" I have now -- it's someone else smoking, never me. Sometimes in the dream I feel the old craving, so I vape -- in the dream! I think it indicates that my subconscious has really accepted that I don't smoke anymore, nevermind the continuing amazement of my conscious mind. :D

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I'm glad you brought that up. I've been vaping quite awhile now, and up until just the past few months I used carto tanks exclusively. Okay..I took a foray into squonking and did try the early clearomizers and I tried my hand and rebuilding my own coils for awhile, played with mechs, etc. in 2013, but ended up going back to carto tanks by the end of that year...and there I stayed. I vaped as constantly then as I do now and only averaged around 6 to 8 ml. a day. A Day. I long for those days again!!! The ONLY reason I went with the new clearos like the GS Air coils and tanks was because I felt forced to do so. I don't know what happened, but it got to where ...out of the clear blue...my cartos would start going nasty tasting within 24 hours. I used to average well over a week (sometimes up to 3 weeks) on a single carto. Why this happened I have no idea. But it did. 'Bout broke my heart. So now...I'm trying to deal with the tanks and coils and the VV/VW stuff (I was perfectly happy with my eGo PTs before this Terrible Thing happened). I came back here to ECF hoping for support and I'm trying to accept the changes that happened. I'm learning a lot. Not quite as happy as I was with my carto tanks and egos....but I'm trying! I hate how much juice I go through now, though!

I dunno if this is Something that you have Tried? Or if they Work well? But I was poking around FT and it did Catch my Eye.

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I wish I could, Kat! But when I get too much nic, I can toss and turn all night without getting any sleep. So for me, it's just better to drop the nic lower. This seems to happen to me every time I change what I'm vaping. Back in my t3s days, I could vape 12mg or even more with no problem. When I switched to GS Airs, I had to drop to 6, then later to 3. Now I'm vaping several RTAs and seem to be getting even more nic with them. So I really think the tank has a lot to do with the efficiency of the nic delivery.

But see? You ARE listening to your body's needs. Too much has certain reactions within you (the sleeplessness). So of course you'd lower your nic. A wise move, OL. :)

Your second point is also really important to take note of. I vape old skool tanks. Premade lazy girl coils in Naughty tanks (and the like). I don't use RDs or RBs attIEs, which DO vaporize more nic than smaller old skool coils. So I CAN use higher nic without getting a bad reaction. It makes sense to me that those who use more massive liquid vaporizing coils would necessarily HAVE to reduce the nic.

The only part of that I don't fully understand is the need to reduce it with the GS Air coils. Splain, Lucy?

24mg Nic in a Nautilus is just right :)

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The only part of that I don't fully understand is the need to reduce it with the GS Air coils. Splain, Lucy?

I would imagine for me that was a combination of factors:

- GS Airs are dual coil, while my old t3s coils were not
- I vaped GS Airs at 8+ watts, compared to no more than 5 for t3s tanks
- I'm sure I vaped a lot more due to the above, plus the fact that the juice just tasted SO much better! :D
 

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Nic, without the combustion products from burning plant matter, is about as harmful as caffeine, and is being shown to have more and more actual benefits...

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/vaping-for-nicotine-advantages.633573/page-20



Currently I'm at about 2.2mg but am thinking if I went back up to 3.5mg. or even 4mg. I'd still not be risking too much with the physical addiction thing.

There are some studies that indicate that nic isn't the primary addictive part of smoking tobacco. Other alkaloids, additives, and, as we all know - the process! - are.

For me, I think the process is actually the most addictive part.

I enjoy (immensely) inhaling some "smoke", exhaling some "smoke" and getting a hit of nicotine. Thus I do it whenever I can.

I enjoy (immensely) talking to my girlfriend. Thus I do it whenever I can.

I enjoy (immensely) eating cheeseburgers. Thus I do it whenever I can.

I enjoy (immensely) watching Fargo on TV. Thus I do it whenever I can.

I've been accused of being "addicted" to nicotine...but I've never been accused of being "addicted" to talking to my girlfriend, cheeseburgers or Fargo.

I wonder why...
 

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Caffeine does it to me, too, which is why I stop drinking it at noon for the day.

I understand that to be the case - it's just more common in caffeine than nicotine - or more commonly pointed out by people so affected. Although both 'make sense' to me in that both improve focus, which is normally not what one might want for going asleep :- ) ... but then again, more focus can be exhausting - that might be why it doesn't affect me and I have no trouble sleeping - although I'm a night owl from long'late hours working - a habit that seems, for me, unbreakable. I enjoy the 'quiet' of 3am like some people enjoy the 6-7am morning, and not that I haven't experienced that as well, but from the 'wrong' end :lol:
 

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"Tobacco may well be as addictive as ......, as some have claimed. But as scientists know, getting mice or other animals hooked on nicotine alone is dauntingly difficult. As a 2007 paper in the journal Neuropharmacology put it: “Tobacco use has one of the highest rates of addiction of any abused drug.” Paradoxically it’s almost impossible to get laboratory animals hooked on pure nicotine, though it has a mildly pleasant effect."

Emphasis mine. This paragraph is from near the bottom of the article here:

http://discovermagazine.com/2014/march/13-nicotine-fix

Which also outlines, among other things, reductions in Parkinson's symptoms, and from earlier in the article:

If dozens of human and animal studies published over the past six years are borne out by large clinical trials, nicotine — freed at last of its noxious host, tobacco, and delivered instead by chewing gum or transdermal patch — may prove to be a weirdly, improbably effective drug for relieving or preventing a variety of neurological disorders, including Parkinson’s disease, mild cognitive impairment (MCI), Tourette’s and schizophrenia.
 

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I understand that to be the case - it's just more common in caffeine than nicotine - or more commonly pointed out by people so affected. Although both 'make sense' to me in that both improve focus, which is normally not what one might want for going asleep :- ) ... but then again, more focus can be exhausting - that might be why it doesn't affect me and I have no trouble sleeping - although I'm a night owl from long'late hours working - a habit that seems, for me, unbreakable. I enjoy the 'quiet' of 3am like some people enjoy the 6-7am morning, and not that I haven't experienced that as well, but from the 'wrong' end :lol:

I was always kind of a night owl, so took a couple of graveyard shift jobs. Now if I close my eyes before 3am, it's very odd indeed. But since I've gotten older, I find it difficult to shift my schedule much either way -- too early, and I can't fall asleep; too late, and I feel so wired I can't fall asleep -- so I try to aim for 3am. :D

Ever since I got really accustomed to getting my nicotine from vaping, it hasn't bothered my sleep at all; at first, yeah, it could give me a pounding heart sometimes, but I was always used to going out for a smoke before bed, so it didn't take too long to acclimate to having a few hits from my vape just before I turn out the light. What sometimes bothers my sleep is the steroids in the Advair, if I take it too close to bedtime -- I try to take it no later than 10pm.

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"Tobacco may well be as addictive as ......, as some have claimed. But as scientists know, getting mice or other animals hooked on nicotine alone is dauntingly difficult. As a 2007 paper in the journal Neuropharmacology put it: “Tobacco use has one of the highest rates of addiction of any abused drug.” Paradoxically it’s almost impossible to get laboratory animals hooked on pure nicotine, though it has a mildly pleasant effect."

Emphasis mine. This paragraph is from near the bottom of the article here:

http://discovermagazine.com/2014/march/13-nicotine-fix

Which also outlines, among other things, reductions in Parkinson's symptoms, and from earlier in the article:

If dozens of human and animal studies published over the past six years are borne out by large clinical trials, nicotine — freed at last of its noxious host, tobacco, and delivered instead by chewing gum or transdermal patch — may prove to be a weirdly, improbably effective drug for relieving or preventing a variety of neurological disorders, including Parkinson’s disease, mild cognitive impairment (MCI), Tourette’s and schizophrenia.

And don't forget ADD, ADHD, anxiety, and depression, because of its coordinating effect on neurotransmitters.

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I enjoy the 'quiet' of 3am like some people enjoy the 6-7am morning, and not that I haven't experienced that as well, but from the 'wrong' end :lol:

You described me, too.

Caffeine or nicotine, for me both eventually reach "the law of diminishing returns". I enjoy them more at start of my day.....as day wears on I just find them less enjoyable in larger amounts.

Nicotine is good for a lot of things. What it isn't good for is Raynaud's syndrome, stuff like that in extremities. Talked to several people here who moved to no nic and noticed their extremity circulation problems resolved markedly.

For most other things nicotine is very beneficial.

While i"m here: I wanted to mention this a few places anyway, as sort of a public service announcement. Does anyone know if there are any animal by-products in VG? I should probably look this up quickly. Because, unfortunately, I got diagnosed at major univ. hospital recently with a (previously rare but increasingly diagnosed) "alpha gal" antibody. To make a long story short, my blood showed exposure to the Galactose-alpha-1,3-galactose (alpha gal for short) which causes a pretty bad (and often deadly) reaction to mammalian meats. A forest ranger died last year at Cossatot from anaphalactic shock many hours after eating red meat because he had a high reading of alpha gal (mine is very low) but it is being found in a lot of outdoorsy people who have had tick bite(s) (hunters, hikers, loggers, fishermen, etc.) and chigger bites. Apparently, the tick saliva has this carbohydrate in it, and so do mammals, so there is something that sensitizes people if they have had a tick bite or too many tick bites. The reason it has been under diagnosed is that all food allergies until now have been from binding to food proteins...in this allergy, the antibody binds to a carbohydrate present on meat called galactose-alpha-1,3-galactose (alpha-gal.) The other reason is that the reaction is extremely DELAYED. 6-8 hours later. So people are waking up in middle of night with hives, digestive problems, swollen faces, and in some cases, full blown analphalactic shock. And for probably 20 years, nobody could pin down what the allergic reaction was from in many cases (meaning many people have been denied useful treatment because nobody knew).

The good news is that my digestive problems will probably improve markedly, but the bad news is that if VG has mammal anything in it, vaping is "curtains" for me. Can't take any chances now. Will be living on chicken, fish, and veggies from now on though. Duck. No lamb, pork, beef, venison, etc. I think I can eat squirrels. I had to throw out all my vitamins that are inside "gelatin" capsules (from red meat animals) and switch to the ones with vegetable cellulose. (want to lessen my "load").

I always get the *weird* things that science hasn't figured out yet, but this one is going to be seen more and more I think. Univ. of VA and a few others are doing a lot of studies on it......f'-in bugs. It's both ticks and/or chiggers. I lived in CT before this, in "tick central" so it could have been CT or AR where I got this antibody.

So this is also an alpha gal alert. Dress properly in the woods, while mowing lawns, etc. and use Deet or spray clothing with pyremthrims (sp?).

By the way, don't freak out. Not EVERYONE who gets chigger and tick bites is gonna have this problem. I guess a number of things have to occur, it is dependent on a LOT of different things.....and you have to have just the right immuno biology for it to happen. Some of us are just .......lucky. ;) It is not even a test that anyone outside an immunology specialty would agree to test you .... I've been thru over a year of working with immunologist to find out why I feel so crappy yet everything keeps coming back showing how amazingly "healthy" I am. LOL

I'm not a huge red meat fan, so I will not be suffering as much as some of the people I've talked to.....it would just about kill them not to be able to have a juicy burger or grilled steak or pork loin. This will just make being invited to dinner more challenging for me now. :lol:
https://allergytomeat.wordpress.com/frequently-asked-questions/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_allergy
 
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In a nutshell so I don't have to read 2,000 posts somewhere in a topic, what are the major diff between a nautilus and a GS air?

I'm sure everyone won't agree with me, but I think the flavor from a GS Air (especially the M version) is a lot better than the Nautilus. Also, it costs about half as much (under $10), as do the coils. I've had only 1 bad coil out of about 50. I didn't have that experience with the Nautilus. I had a bunch of bad coils, or ones that only lasted a day or two. I generally get 2 weeks out of my GS Air coils. And they are pretty easily rebuildable. I think it's an excellent tank for the price. And if you check out the GS Air thread, you'll find an awful lot of people who agree with me. :D
 

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Does anyone know if there are any animal by-products in VG?

VG can be made from animal fats or vegetable oils - usually soy, coconut, palm oil.... You have to check with the manufacturer. I did that a while back and settled on NOW VG, before going all in with Decadent Vapours Aqueous Glycerin. There are more choices now.

http://www.amazon.com/Solutions-Gly...121_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1T40JJVMCB027BJXY8NW#Ask

http://www.amazon.com/Vegetable-Gly...27883&sr=8-3&keywords=now+vegetable+glycerine

The "Q&A" (amazon) on these, answers most questions now, but back then I emailed the company :- )
 
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