Little itty bitty mods under $100.

[pokemom]

Bought my youngest a Grimes "game day" jersey for Christmas. BUT, I bought the "retro" jersey that they wore to celebrate the 50. Yup, I'm still holding on to the past. [emoji4]


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[DPLongo22]

Bought my youngest a Grimes "game day" jersey for Christmas. BUT, I bought the "retro" jersey that they wore to celebrate the 50. Yup, I'm still holding on to the past. [emoji4]

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Next year it's going to be even more "past", since Grimes will likely be playing for the Pats (or whomever). My condolences to your youngest.

SUCH a cynic, me. I know.

 

[pokemom]

Next year it's going to be even more "past", since Grimes will likely be playing for the Pats (or whomever). My condolences to your youngest.

SUCH a cynic, me. I know.

Stop it!!!! He didn't want Suh, and I ordered it before he liked Landry. He would have killed me if I had bought a Tannehill, and he's probably the only one that we'll still have next year. Sigh.


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[DPLongo22]

Stop it!!!! He didn't want Suh, and I ordered it before he liked Landry. He would have killed me if I had bought a Tannehill, and he's probably the only one that we'll still have next year. Sigh.

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I'm glad he didn't want Suh. The guy is a cancer. I might be fine with Tannehill, if we could see him play with a line that could block someone. The guy's getting KILLED back there. Even Aaron Rogers is showing that's just impossible.

BLOCK SOMEONE!!!!!

Sorry. I have anger issues.

 

[pokemom]

Hey @dplongo, does this make you feel any better? Dolphins Home


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[DPLongo22]

Hey @dplongo, does this make you feel any better? Dolphins Home


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Oh, absolutely! That changes EVERYTHING.

 

[fourthrok]

provari delivers smooth power, not pwm, due to more expensive regulation. I tend to prefer mechanicals due to dc also being smooth, and I don't mind the battery getting weaker. innokin also has smooth power regulation. Everyone else uses an average of pwm.

I don't have a Provari...at least not yet. I do have a few of the Innokin mods and the VV V3s..and I do think they vape "smooth". There's just something "better" about vaping with them than with a smok mod or iStick, etc. Flavor is better. TH is even better. "Smooth" is definitely a word that I would use for them. I thought maybe it was just me, but maybe there's something to why I tend to prefer the Innokins. I was thinking maybe it was just because I could finally afford to get a couple of the MVP style things they make, now that they are going on clearance or reducing in price.

 

[DPLongo22]

I don't have a Provari...at least not yet. I do have a few of the Innokin mods and the VV V3s..and I do think they vape "smooth". There's just something "better" about vaping with them than with a SMOK mod or iStick, etc. Flavor is better. TH is even better. "Smooth" is definitely a word that I would use for them. I thought maybe it was just me, but maybe there's something to why I tend to prefer the Innokins. I was thinking maybe it was just because I could finally afford to get a couple of the MVP style things they make, now that they are going on clearance or reducing in price.

The Innokin (CFIVs, at least) are phenomenal (IMO), vape-wise, 4th. My SVD was choppier than a Provi, but I can honestly say that there's VERY little difference (if any) where the CFIV is concerned. I think they were great buys at $40+. Now at $25? A STEAL!

I love the design, performance, and feel. I'm not much tempted by the "Plus", because I'm so happy with the "Minus" .

If they had used external 18650's, they'd be right there with the very top of my list ones. Even as it stands, they're knocking on the door.

 

[fourthrok]

Tommy Chong says if we start a thread "Tootle 420" he will share with us.

What would be of interest to me is WHAT would he share with us?

 

[DPLongo22]

What would be of interest to me is WHAT would he share with us?

 

[DavidOck]

If they had used external 18650's, they'd be right there with the very top of my list ones. Even as it stands, they're knocking on the door.

That's the deal breaker for me...

 

[DPLongo22]

That's the deal breaker for me...

It definitely changes my landscape too, David. The two CFIV's are the only internals I have left, and I don't plan on getting any more. I got tired of the associated processes.

Innokins are the ones I allowed to remain, just because of how much I like them. But when they're done, so are my internal batteries (for good).

I've got a Provi or two (cough) to hold me through the FDA regs (which I'm almost certain will eventually be reversed, even in a worst case scenario).

 

[k2zs]

Oh, absolutely! That changes EVERYTHING.

OMG!! Was that Kat yesterday??

 

[clnire]

(which I'm almost certain will eventually be reversed, even in a worst case scenario).

We can sure hope!

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Not quite itty bitty, but quite compact and under $100!

Finally finished the video portion of my review of the Athena eNVy 22. Now, the entire (written and video) review is live!
Controlled Coil: REVIEW: Athena eNVy 22 Temperature Control Box Mod

 

[VapingTurtle]

Not quite itty bitty, but quite compact and under $100!

Finally finished the video portion of my review of the Athena eNVy 22. Now, the entire (written and video) review is live!
Controlled Coil: REVIEW: Athena eNVy 22 Temperature Control Box Mod

Those cons very heavily outweigh those pros in your review in my opinion. I can't see how you came away with your total scores based on that.

Good review otherwise. (I checked out the text only, not the video.)

 

[aldenf]

(Just like DPL, I don't wanna be an ......, but [pet peeve here]...)

Here ya go, Alden. Scan this:
DC-to-DC converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All regulated mods (except some obsolete mods like the ipro and buzzpro, which use inefficient linear regulators for step-down only) use switched-mode dc-to-dc converters. The output signal of a switched-mode converter is a pulse train, i.e., a PWM signal. PWM is a description of an output wave, not a type of regulator.

The pulse train (PWM) output from the regulator may then be smoothed (like on a Provari or a DNA) by filters and buffers so that you see a nice itty-bitty flat output signal, but it is still a switched-mode power converter putting out pulses of current. (Didja see how I got itty-bitty in there somehow?) And they may output a nice high-frequency signal, like Provari's 800Hz, or a choppy low-frequency signal, like the original Lavatube and Vamo's 30Hz pulse.

Mods advertising DC-to-DC output or DC-DC Mode are just spouting marketing gobblety splat. They are all DC-to-DC unless they are plugged into the wall without a wall wart, like your coffee maker or hairdryer.

Agreed. All of our battery-powered APVs use DC-DC converters. As by definition, any circuit that converts DC voltage to another DC Voltage is a DC-DC converter. The vaping world has decided to use technically inaccurate terms to differentiate those devices with a pulsed voltage output from those with a flat output.

Linear DC-DC converters are buck only and highly inefficient, as all "chopped" voltage is dissipated as heat and wasted (technically, ohmic loss). Switched-mode converters were invented to increase efficiency and flexibility. Pulse-width modulation (and pulse-frequency modulation, pulse-amplitude modulation, etc) are methods of regulation and further increasing efficiency (especially while bucking). To be clear however, PWM, PFM, PAM, etc can utilize switched-mode converters but switched-mode converters do not necessarily involve pulsing. While "switching" and "pulsing" appear to be similar in concept, they are, in practice, different. Both utilize "duty cycles", further confusing the issue.

Buck–boost converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Boost converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Buck converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-frequency_modulation
Pulse-width modulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pulse-amplitude modulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Those cons very heavily outweigh those pros in your review in my opinion. I can't see how you came away with your total scores based on that.

Good review otherwise. (I checked out the text only, not the video.)

Depends on which cons you were referring to. The lack of a wattage lock can be a biggy, but it's not so big a deal to check it before you vape, if you've not handled it in a while. Only twice have it given be a problem. Lack of stealth mode... nah... not a problem. Internal battery? That's more a personal opinion than actual con or pro. Overall, the feel and function of the box is spot on, though... There were only 2 things that I wish it had: wattage lock, more wire options. However, since other manufacturers are still introducing new mods without Ti, SS or TCR, I kinda have to discount it as a con...

 

[aikanae1]

Agreed. All of our battery-powered APVs use DC-DC converters. As by definition, any circuit that converts DC voltage to another DC Voltage is a DC-DC converter. The vaping world has decided to use technically inaccurate terms to differentiate those devices with a pulsed voltage output from those with a flat output. Mvp mirrors the provari in vape quality.

Linear DC-DC converters are buck only and highly inefficient, as all "chopped" voltage is dissipated as heat and wasted (technically, ohmic loss). Switched-mode converters were invented to increase efficiency and flexibility. Pulse-width modulation (and pulse-frequency modulation, pulse-amplitude modulation, etc) are methods of regulation and further increasing efficiency (especially while bucking). To be clear however, PWM, PFM, PAM, etc can utilize switched-mode converters but switched-mode converters do not necessarily involve pulsing. While "switching" and "pulsing" appear to be similar in concept, they are, in practice, different. Both utilize "duty cycles", further confusing the issue.

Buck–boost converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Boost converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Buck converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-frequency_modulation
Pulse-width modulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pulse-amplitude modulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I agree there's a lot more to it than just pulsing. @Jeremy R goes into detail reguarding the Sigelei Zmax in the apv specific forum that changed my ways for the better. I get the "jist" but I could never explain it. In the Zmax, the buck is more efficent than boost which is why I prefer to use stacking batteries so it's in buck mode. Huge difference in vape quality. The provari is a huge difference in vape quality.

I think some tend to be more sensitive to the way power is regulated and I think manufacturers have failed in being transparent about what they use. If given a choice, I think a mechanical gives a better vape than many of the regulated mods but I might be more sensitive to it than others. TG we are all different and we have so many choices.

But I could never explain this stuff. I do think this is important enough to raise as a discussion, just for informed buying decisions.

 

[DavidOck]

I've got a Provi or two (cough) to hold me through the FDA regs (which I'm almost certain will eventually be reversed, even in a worst case scenario).

We can sure hope!

Alas, DP, I'm not quite that optimistic....

Then again, to butcher and old saying.........

Hope springs infernal

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