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I would hardly call myself a placebo smoker. I have been smoking about a pack a day for over 20 years. It is obvious that our usage patterns are different, but that is no excuse to start calling people names.

One of the main reasons that I participate in this forum is to learn from the other people who are using these product's. It is my goal to offer as reliable a product as possible and to make sure that any claims I make can be substantiated by the majority of the people who use them.

I have started to make changes to my site to reflect this and I do appreciate any feedback whether good or bad. I know that there are several people on this site that sell e-cigarettes who have a reputation for excellent customer service and a good product... Im hoping that I will someday be added to that list.

Phil

good luck phil im sure its possibly:)
 

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there are placebo smokers of these devices,so dont take it so personally mate...its a fact,not an insult....if youre so willing to learn,then maybe you should start to listen.

and if you want a broader viewpoint from seasoned,experienced vapers,then dont take my word for it,take a look at the poll syntaxevasion started...or indeed ask some of them...i think youll find most dont get anywhere near one pack from 1 cart,never mind 2...more like half a pack on average...

i know for a fact that this is the majority view,because we are all constantly complaining about suppliers exaggerated claims...read the forum...

quite how you are getting 30-40 cigs worth from approx 1 ml of liquid when most of us struggle to get 10,and the very best Janty HD carts dont even match those figures is a mystery to me...but if you can,due to the way you vape,then good luck to you and your customers...
 
I'm speaking about penstyle carts now.

But I have had some carts outperform others. And I believe it was trog who mentioned that it could have been a good day for a cart filler and some people might get lucky carts that were filled to capacity and other carts were barely filled. Somebody else may have said that...but I'm pretty sure it was trog.

Anyhow, based on that, there are days I get lucky and have a cart last me all day long! And a cart from another box from the same company last me a couple of hours.

I don't think my vapin' habits changed that day. Matter of fact, I don't think they changed at all. I think I may have gotten hold of a lucky cart. :D

Right now, I have a generic strawberry flavored card that I've been using since yesterday. It's still kickin'. Go figure.
 

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yes Karen,i know they can differ slightly...but i was referring to the average amount of cigarettes worth they last,and the nicotine hit they deliver in that time from 1 ml of liquid for an average cartridge...

which is how they should be marketed-not based on a few inexperienced peoples miraculous experiences with a few miracle carts,or due to the way they personally vape.
dont you think thats more ethical?

phylo wanted the opinion of the majority of vapers,and as you of all people should know Karen,most established suppliers exaggerate the abilities of the average cartridge...an anomaly or two doesnt mean anything.

and i seem to remember trog actually reckons that an average pen style cart lasts 7-8 cigs worth on average.
 
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