Looking for a single 21700 mech with specific features

[rottev]

Hi, been using a broadside for my daily for over the last year, Mainly I use it with single coil rda / RTA, 24mm but It has become too much to travel with 4 18650 a day, im looking for an upgrade to both battery life and is possible a harder hit.
I would love to find a 21700 mech that supports:
* 510 non hybrid top cap (can have an option to switch top caps)
* top venting (I prefer to run my positive up if possible)
* delrin or other non conductive sleeve in the inside of the tube.
* constant contact switch (magnetic if possible)
* lockable switch ( I pocket my mod a lot and having to take out batteries is a pain)
* Tube design with bottom fire

I have been looking for a while for a mech with these features for months now and haven't found a single one that ticks all the boxes so i would appreciate any help ing finding one

Thanks,

 

[Don29palms]

I think you're looking for the easter bunny.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Take a look at the NATO mod. It lacks a delrin sleeve and magnetic switch, but checks all the other boxes, I think.

Broadside does make the Broadside Admiral which will run with 20700s...

 

[rottev]

I think you're looking for the easter bunny.

Yeah it feels like that, though if you think about it, it's not something that special, it's only a mechanical tube, it's just what the modders think the consumer wants that dictate if what I'm looking for is common or not, lots of mechs have top caps and top venting how hard would it be to make a floating pin top cap and magnetic lockable switch for a tube? and a thin delrin sleeve?

 

[rottev]

Take a look at the NATO mod. It lacks a delrin sleeve and magnetic switch, but checks all the other boxes, I think.

Broadside does make the Broadside Admiral which will run with 20700s...

Thanks for the reply,

I have actually considered them both, the Admiral doesn't have a lockable switch afaik, though the clutch system is good. also i would love to use me samsung 30t's and not have to buy new 20700 batteries.

The nato just seems like i will break it in a second, I tend to knock over my mods a lot and the nato seems like it's the least stable mech, also the switch is not lockable through recessed.

 

[Ben85]

4 18650’s would last me about 2 weeks nowadays . One of the many benefits of switching to high nic MTL vaping.

 

[escapetovape]

Yeah it feels like that, though if you think about it, it's not something that special, it's only a mechanical tube, it's just what the modders think the consumer wants that dictate if what I'm looking for is common or not, lots of mechs have top caps and top venting how hard would it be to make a floating pin top cap and magnetic lockable switch for a tube? and a thin delrin sleeve?

Not so much hard, it's whether it's commercially viable. Now in your case; the idea has value (and I'm in your camp it does sound like a pretty sweet and logical configuration), but from a commercial aspect along with marketing? Not to mention prototyping and any testing to go along with it.

Take a look at the Deathwish Modz collection, you'll notice that they changed the RDA, and only slightly but otherwise the only changes are the external engraving patterns. I mean the biggest change was the addition of a stacked series configuration, and even then it in itself is nothing ground-breaking as far as innovation. Point I'm making is that these ideas are fantastic, but deviate from what's selling at the moment, which is really quite saddening when you think of all the fun stuff that could be made, yet it must be remembered that before they can make money on any new idea they have to sweat a lot of moolah first.

 

[bombastinator]

Why a mech? The whole reason you’re carrying so many batteries is mechs aren’t efficient users of battery. “Hard hitting” is a myth. What a “hard hit” really is is a high wattage hit. Mechs have variable decreasing wattage so the first hit is always the “hardest”. Just get something that maintains real wattage.

 

[escapetovape]

Why a mech? The whole reason you’re carrying so many batteries is mechs aren’t efficient users of battery. “Hard hitting” is a myth. What a “hard hit” really is is a high wattage hit. Mechs have variable decreasing wattage so the first hit is always the “hardest”. Just get something that maintains real wattage.

Something tells me that OP is enamoured with mech mods, and I say this because I'm the same Though it does mean that OP has to decide which is better; the harder hit (which any 220w regulated can do without issue) or the mech mod appeal.

 

[bombastinator]

Something tells me that OP is enamoured with mech mods, and I say this because I'm the same Though it does mean that OP has to decide which is better; the harder hit (which any 220w regulated can do without issue) or the mech mod appeal.

So you’re saying s/he’s a bit like those women who constantly date abusive men. It’s not that non-abusive men aren’t out there, it’s that they’re not enamoring.

 

[escapetovape]

So you’re saying s/he’s a bit like those women who constantly date abusive men. It’s not that non-abusive men aren’t out there, it’s that they’re not enamoring.

Absolutely. Amazing how similarities crop up and where

 

[Mordacai]

Hello @rottev, don't know if Thunderhead Creations Tauren Max mech mod may be of some interest?
Tauren Max - Powered by Thunderhead Creations

 

[escapetovape]

Hello @rottev, don't know if Thunderhead Creations Tauren Max mech mod may be of some interest?
Tauren Max - Powered by Thunderhead Creations

the hybrid section might be a downer. First thing I could think of that might be close would have been the Vaperz Cloud SAROV(?) which had the screw on/off top section to adjust for batteries. However that would take 20700 and I haven't tried the 21700 in that one yet.

 

[bombastinator]

the hybrid section might be a downer. First thing I could think of that might be close would have been the Vaperz Cloud SAROV(?) which had the screw on/off top section to adjust for batteries. However that would take 20700 and I haven't tried the 21700 in that one yet.

I personally don’t get the complaints about hybrid mechs. Sure, they’re potentially one of the most dangerous kind of mechs, but makings sure your positive atty pin protrudes is one of the easiest safety precautions that can be done with a mech. There are still many many more which are much easier to mess up. The whole “I’ll use a mech but not a hybrid” seems so silly to me. Using a pure mech with modern batteries is already courting disaster. What’s one more potential point of failure?

 

[gsmit1]

I think you're looking for the easter bunny.

i certainly don't know everything, but I can't think of any mod that isn't lacking at least 2 of those features. I don't think he's going to get all of those majors in a single device.

 

[gsmit1]

Using a pure mech with modern batteries is already courting disaster.

I don't think I'm going to be able to go along with you on this. Never has their been more reliable sources for known good and genuine oem batteries. That's number one.

Number two would be that there are also now several models of round lithium ion batteries in the sizes we use, that are routinely Mooch rated between 25 and 30 amps cdr, with a couple 21700 landing at 35 amps.

Long gone are the days when the venerable, but now only moderately muscular 25R was the pinnacle of battery performance for mech users.

For a conscientious and responsible mech head, batteries have never been safer.

 

[escapetovape]

I personally don’t get the complaints about hybrid mechs. Sure, they’re potentially one of the most dangerous kind of mechs, but makings sure your positive atty pin protrudes is one of the easiest safety precautions that can be done with a mech. There are still many many more which are much easier to mess up. The whole “I’ll use a mech but not a hybrid” seems so silly to me. Using a pure mech with modern batteries is already courting disaster. What’s one more potential point of failure?

I don't see it either and as dangerous as people like to say they are, the dangers themselves are some of the easiest to mitigate. It's like trying to diagnose a fault in a pure mechanical car vs. trying to diagnose a Tesla, in a mech mod everything is right there in front of you and using/maintaining/fixing is right before your eyes. I still remember having "NO ATOMISER DETECTED" on my Predator 220w mod which I couldn't figure out for the life of me why, only to find out that the connector pin in the mod was busted, and since I was so new to vaping at the time there was no way I'd have thought that a new mod would have that kind of problem (not to mention the error message is so damn vague).

 

[escapetovape]

I don't think I'm going to be able to go along with you on this. Never has their been more reliable sources for known good and genuine oem batteries. That's number one.

Number two would be that there are also now several models of round lithium ion batteries in the sizes we use ,that are routinely Mooch rated between 25 and 30 amps cdr, with a couple 21700 landing at 35 amps.

Long gone are the days when the venerable, but now only moderately muscular 25R was the pinnacle of battery performance for mech users.

For a conscientious and responsible mech head, batteries have never been safer.

I think he's talking more about that due to the very nature of how batteries need to operate, and how tube mechs operate there's always a level of risk that can't be eliminated completely when compared to say a VW mod with oodles of safety features with all those "what if's" in mind.

 

[gsmit1]

I don't see it either and as dangerous as people like to say they are, the dangers themselves are some of the easiest to mitigate. It's like trying to diagnose a fault in a pure mechanical car vs. trying to diagnose a Tesla, in a mech mod everything is right there in front of you and using/maintaining/fixing is right before your eyes. I still remember having "NO ATOMISER DETECTED" on my Predator 220w mod which I couldn't figure out for the life of me why, only to find out that the connector pin in the mod was busted, and since I was so new to vaping at the time there was no way I'd have thought that a new mod would have that kind of problem (not to mention the error message is so damn vague).

Fair enough, but I was responding specifically to the part I quoted from our friend here. It sounded like he was saying that modern batteries are now more dangerous than the ones available in times past.

 

[escapetovape]

Fair enough, but I was responding specifically to the part I quoted from our friend here. It sounded like he was saying that modern batteries are now more dangerous than the ones available in times past.

Well if we think about how much power some can put out vs. 3-4 years ago, and how mech mods really haven't changed - would you say that there is a higher risk factor associated?

Or to put it another way; Glock 17 in 9mm, then putting +P in it and then in 3 years time putting ++P, and then +++P (if that were to ever exist).