Looking for alternative PV's

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wv2win

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Wow, what is this guy's problem?

Does your 'advice' require knocking down others' posts and responses?

Must you be so condescending with your post to get the point across?

You argue that the a mod is so much more than just a battery? Well, perhaps it is... to you. To others who care not for the additional features, (which by the way have nothing to do with how your juice will actually vape), it may just be that the mod is merely a battery... so what?

The OP appreciated the advice given, and rest assured, he is aware of variable voltage... in fact, it would appear that he is already investigating VV further. So, how about coming off the high horse for a while and join the crowd of humble peasants. ;)

When a new person is given inaccurate or incomplete information, especially from a someone who has been here quite awhile, it is confusing and not helpful in solving their issue. You are being quite disingenuous when you state others don't see the advantages to the consistency that some models provide. It's also appears that you are inferring that it is better to provide incomplete or inaccurate information. And stating that providing consistent power to the carto/atty, in comparison to providing constantly diminishing power to the atty, has no affect on how your juice will vape, tells me you are at best confused on what affects how a PV works.
 

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I've read somewhere that tank mods take out a lot of the flavor out of the cartos, is this true? Flavor is one of the things I don't want to sacrifice ...

I think you may be confusing the tanks. The eGo tank line (T, B and C) is said to reduce flavor a bit. I had one of the first eGo-Ts and when they first came out, there were lots of other problems that have been addressed. So, I can't say my experience is still valid. For me it did wash out the flavor and I soon switched to cartos.

The carto tanks that I think you are looking at are merely a means to keep the carto wet without the need to top off. You just keep the tank full. I'm not a carto fan but, I gave it a shot. If you are okay with cartos, and most people are, it's a very convenient way to vape.
 

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For more vapor relative to throat hit, higher VG % and lower nic.

For minimized fiddling with refilling, a carto tank. Feeders can be great, but carto tanks are pretty simple, and the VV feeder pickings are pretty slim. I really like my notcigs VVPV top feeder, and there's a VV REO Woodvil bottom feeder coming out in a couple weeks (uses the notcigs electronics).

For affordable, but high quality, VV, I'd definitely go notcigs. They're 3.3 - 5.5V adjustable, hold voltage well (don't sag as the batteries deplete), simple to use, and quite durable (I beat the heck out of my original Infinity and Buzz Pro, not intentionally, just a klutz).

An Infinity Pro, with the battery/charger set and one additional pair of batteries, runs $120 delivered (use coupon code "ECF Buzzkill", 2 words). If you pick up a notcigs M1A1 tank at the same time (a really good carto tank, used one all day every day, 6 ml/day, for the past 7 months) it's $20 ($10 off its standalone price). For punching cartos, a saddle valve, or the DIY punch I posted on PIF, or the $15 one from COV, should work.

My VVPV with a good atty does provide better flavor consistency than I get with the IPro or BPro with tank, but I still use the tube mod/tank combos too -- a more convenient form factor at times, and no need to feed when using a tank.
 

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Stevowns, That peppery feeling is your nic being too high. The same thing almost made me quit vaping. I cut my liquids down a little vith VG and they were fine. I was also able to bring them slowly(a few drops of my previous strength each few days) back up and get it back to where I wanted it to be. Something about going up gradually seemed to do the trick. Good luck.

Yep. This is your answer right here. I actually stepped up in nicotine because I like the peppery feeling. 12mg is enough to satisfy my nicotine craving, but vaping just isn't satisfying as a whole to me without the pepperyness.
 

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You can't go wrong with a good high end VV ... that said, you don't have to have one to get a great and/or better tape than what you are experiencing... I feel your pain. I've been fiddling and fussing for over a year, and that's with many a high end VV at that!
Sounds like I'm contradicting but this is why; a high end VV will take you where you want to go on the power supply side of the equation. It can and will do it with precision and variability.
I spent over a year with a couple Provari's (not to mention other VV's too) and with the built-in meter functions, I learned a hell of a lot about matching resistance with voltage, and different atomizer types.
Because of that I am skilled at matching a fixed voltage device to a certain atomizer (or carto) to get just as good a vape as I would on my VV at that voltage.
Still you can't go wrong with a high end PV because as those atomizers age, I find I can up the power even just slightly to improve on a slightly tired atty.

So all I'm saying is that you may need to look in the atomizer types end of things too... have you tried an HH357 atomizer? Get a 1.5 LR for your 3.7 mod and hold on to your hat. (imo an i06 is a very good atomizer indeed... get an LR). The HH357 (not to mention some of the rebuildables +$$$+ ) brought me to a whole new level of appreciation of the sport of vaping!
btw the HH 1.5 LR does not vape like a conventional 1.5... it is not too hot, but flavor and vapor production is incredible. But beware it's a $22 atomizer and disposable... it will ruin you for anything else.

Where can I find HH357 atomizers? I'd try it once, but the $22 dollar price point is pretty steep for something that's disposable ...
 

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When a new person is given inaccurate or incomplete information, especially from a someone who has been here quite awhile, it is confusing and not helpful in solving their issue. You are being quite disingenuous when you state others don't see the advantages to the consistency that some models provide. It's also appears that you are inferring that it is better to provide incomplete or inaccurate information. And stating that providing consistent power to the carto/atty, in comparison to providing constantly diminishing power to the atty, has no affect on how your juice will vape, tells me you are at best confused on what affects how a PV works.

There is nothing wrong with giving a new person more information, but I fail to see the need to down others' posts in order to accomplish it. You seem to feel otherwise.

In an unregulated mod the voltage drops, yes, but you make it seem as if it makes the world of difference in how it affects the vape. Perhaps at full charge and full diminished life I can tell a difference, but this is minor (subjective)... thus why I mentioned to some, regulated power may not be a necessary feature which otherwise would mean, for those people, a PV is merely a battery...

My point wasn't to stifle or retain information, my point was made in hopes that you'd understand that your method of given information was rude. If all you do around here is enter threads, set to help new people, and give advice whilst belittling those whom already gave advice, then perhaps it's time for a evaluation on life, or at the very least, on how time is spent in one's life...
 

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There is nothing wrong with giving a new person more information, but I fail to see the need to down others' posts in order to accomplish it. You seem to feel otherwise.

In an unregulated mod the voltage drops, yes, but you make it seem as if it makes the world of difference in how it affects the vape. Perhaps at full charge and full diminished life I can tell a difference, but this is minor (subjective)... thus why I mentioned to some, regulated power may not be a necessary feature which otherwise would mean, for those people, a PV is merely a battery...

My point wasn't to stifle or retain information, my point was made in hopes that you'd understand that your method of given information was rude. If all you do around here is enter threads, set to help new people, and give advice whilst belittling those whom already gave advice, then perhaps it's time for a evaluation on life, or at the very least, on how time is spent in one's life...

When I see someone give incomplete and conflicting information to new people somewhat consistently, I will be more direct in my response. And I have no concern with how I deliver advice and the advice I give. I have more than enough positive feedback to confirm that my advice is well received. I believe in being truthful and complete in giving people information so they can make the best possible buying decisions. I also believe in making recommendations that statistically have the better chance of transitioning a new person into vaping full time as well as not costing them more money than necessary by recommending they buy the least effective models and then the next and then the next, etc.
 

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When I see someone give incomplete and conflicting information to new people somewhat consistently, I will be more direct in my response. And I have no concern with how I deliver advice and the advice I give. I have more than enough positive feedback to confirm that my advice is well received. I believe in being truthful and complete in giving people information so they can make the best possible buying decisions. I also believe in making recommendations that statistically have the better chance of transitioning a new person into vaping full time as well as not costing them more money than necessary by recommending they buy the least effective models and then the next and then the next, etc.

Well, more power to you then.

Nothing wrong with being a voice of reason... only when your voice is drowning out others' mixed with a tinge of degrading does the 'advice' become a bit less helpful. Just something to bear in mind, or not.
 
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@Levitas, please take it to PM if you have that much of a problem with the guy.

Psha, nothing wrong with a little pacifism in threads needing intervention... I would guess that some could say that intervention isn't needed by a regular member like little ole me, however, pot... meet kettle :D
 
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