Looking for some friendly advice

[daz96134]

Hi all. Im new to this site and recently joined this community to help aid in my vaporizing journey. I smoke about 15 a day and I've tried a few ecigs. Early last year I went down the sky cig route (ones that look like a cigarette) but the hit just wasnt there. Still tho as quick as I started I was back on the fags. Then I saw many people while walking thru town one day with the eliquid pens and tanks ect. The ce4's and ce5's and what not. Didnt know what they were at first but soon learned about them. Decided to give it ago and loved it. Simple starter kit, ego battery, charger, case, and some ce4's. Worked a treat and was smoke free for 2 weeks. My gf offered me a ... and its the first time I hated the smell, hated the taste. First time ever I gave it her back half smoked lol.

I started to have problems tho, leaking mostly. I bought some more ce4's from a local. It just seemed hit a miss after that. Some were made well then some not so and leaked. Tried from different places to rule out the vendor but seems they get them from the same place probably china but slap there name on it. After a few times at work, you know your at work, long day, take the ecig out. It leaks or somethings happens then thats that. Found myself taking a pack of fags with me just incase so at least Ive got something if it goes bad. And yep.... you guessed it. Back on the fags. Christmas came so got that out of the way and thats brought us to today.

I loved and still do love vaping. Those 2 weeks were fantastic and want to bring it back. If you get the right set up, strength and flavor its a match made in heaven and much better than the fags. I love it. I've spent the better part of last week searching, googling, and watching you tube vids and review. Grimmgreen being my favorite. And basically just swatting up on whats out there. I've already spent a small fortune on ecigs and replacements and spares and so on. But I am all pumped up to getting back on the wagon and getting a great set up and going for it with the right e-liquid.

Im far from an expert but these last 3 days of learning and searching have made me the more wiser towards them. Ive looked, watched, and read and come pay day this 15th I'm going to be putting in an order. I've gone off the wicks from past experience and like the cartomizers so want to give that a try. I just wanted to see what you guys think. Its difficult because I realize its all personal preference but.... I dunno, is this a good set up? Any problems I should look out for with it? Any advice really would be greatly appreciated. I just dont want to spend another small fortune and be riddled with problems again. Ive had a bad experience but its a new year. And I'm ready to get back on the wagon as it were.

This is what Ive settled on unless someone gives me a better alternative or heck even if a website I've chosen is one to stay away from.

Ok:-

Ive heard good things about boge. So from CoolVapes.co.uk Im going to get the £39 Kit. 2x Boge F16 Tanks, 5x Spare Cartomizers, Ego Twist 1100mah, Plinth, Charger, and case. Also Getting a nice Drip Tip for £2.99 and an extra ego twist for £18.99

And for flavour, again I know personal preference but this is mainly because im quite new to the whole ratio thing. Ive learned what I can about blockages and being too thin it can leak and so on. But reviews can only go so far, heck some are paid for so bit of a learning curve. Heard 70%pg 30%vg is a good mix for boge cartomizers. Apparently I'm going to get some good smoke from this and its still thick to lessen the risk of leaks yet still not thick enough to cause a blockage. Please correct me if Ive gotten this wrong. Found a site I liked the look of called Vapology.co.uk and going for a 60%40% mix. Bit of a contradiction from above but on there site thats coming up as recommend in brackets for this flavour :/ Not sure if it matters. Hopefully someone here can advice me on that one. But yea, Tobacco 18mg flavor 60/40 with an extra flavour of caramel at 20%. Hoping for a nice tabocco flavour with an after taste of a hint of caramel. Time will tell. Thank You and I do apologize Ive wrote an essay here lol.

Thank you all again in advance for your help and advice. Fingers crossed no problems with what Ive chosen and hopefully this time my experience will be better from these fantastic machines

 

[trouble1000]

Not really a fan of cartos myself, so can't really advise on that one. I started off with Vision Vivi Novas (from Vape escape), as long as you get the genuine "Vision" brand - no leaks or problems at all.

But I have used Vapology for juices. I normally order from their tailor made range, cos I like strong flavours, so normally order extra flavour shots. Cappuccino, pear/blackberry/honey drizzle and most of their tailor made juices are superb. You shouldn't really notice much of a difference with the pg/vg ratio, you will get a bit more vapour and slightly less throat hit going from 70/30 to a 60/40 mix. Must admit I prefer 60/40 or 50/50 myself as I have a slight reaction to high PG juices. In fact the only juice I had from vapology that I didn't like was black forest gateau, tasted too much like a chocolate licquer too me. But overall their great juices

 

[CreepyLady]

Hi and welcome to ECF!

That is a great setup! I would say get more carts though! If you have 2 tanks in rotation and hit a cart with spotty quality you will be down to your last one fast. I usually buy 10 or 20 at a time (more if they are on sale). Make sure you are getting the prepunched ones too for the tank! You should not have anymore leaking issues provided they are well made tanks

There is a user here that has a great info blog on cartotanks - when you first set it up or change the carto it needs to be primed (only takes a minute and its super easy) Check it out here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4830-8-cartotank-help-noob.html

As far as the liquid ratio I use 50/50 and 40pg/60vg and I have no issue with Boge prepunched cartos. I use them daily with my cartotank. If you notice issues with the liquid continuously not fully saturating the filler mix your liquid with just a single drop or 2 of distilled water to thin it a teeny tiny bit - but I will say even with 40/60 I have not had to do this.

You have your eyes set on a lovely kit - hope it serves you well!

 

[TheJakeBailey]

I have to tell you, I really wish I had started with a carto tank instead of the plethora of of clearo's I now have collecting dust. On the other hand, I wouldn't know how great they are if I hadn't.

One thing to keep in mind, I belive the tank you have chosen is plastic. Not a big deal unless you plan on using juices that can fog or crack plastic. Cinnamons, Citrus, etc. If you like the Cartos and want to invest a little more down the road, I strongly recommend IBtanked. IBTanked - Get Tanked With Us!

You will find a lot of opinions on particular cartos. I have boges that work great, but honestly, the smoke single coils I think work just fine as well. Like CreepyLady said (and she's not creepy at all. Very nice actually lol) i would go ahead and order a couple boxes of cartos. you may get a dud or two, and the shipping cant be much more for a box than for a single.

Good luck!

 

[daz96134]

Not really a fan of cartos myself, so can't really advise on that one. I started off with Vision Vivi Novas (from Vape escape), as long as you get the genuine "Vision" brand - no leaks or problems at all.

But I have used Vapology for juices. I normally order from their tailor made range, cos I like strong flavours, so normally order extra flavour shots. Cappuccino, pear/blackberry/honey drizzle and most of their tailor made juices are superb. You shouldn't really notice much of a difference with the pg/vg ratio, you will get a bit more vapour and slightly less throat hit going from 70/30 to a 60/40 mix. Must admit I prefer 60/40 or 50/50 myself as I have a slight reaction to high PG juices. In fact the only juice I had from vapology that I didn't like was black forest gateau, tasted too much like a chocolate licquer too me. But overall their great juices

Thank you. I have had a vivi nova. Had a feeling it wasnt a legitment one when it started leaking. Thank you for your advice of vapology. It has just made my order this 15th concrete to order from them

 

[daz96134]

Hi and welcome to ECF!

That is a great setup! I would say get more carts though! If you have 2 tanks in rotation and hit a cart with spotty quality you will be down to your last one fast. I usually buy 10 or 20 at a time (more if they are on sale). Make sure you are getting the prepunched ones too for the tank! You should not have anymore leaking issues provided they are well made tanks

There is a user here that has a great info blog on cartotanks - when you first set it up or change the carto it needs to be primed (only takes a minute and its super easy) Check it out here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4830-8-cartotank-help-noob.html

As far as the liquid ratio I use 50/50 and 40pg/60vg and I have no issue with Boge prepunched cartos. I use them daily with my cartotank. If you notice issues with the liquid continuously not fully saturating the filler mix your liquid with just a single drop or 2 of distilled water to thin it a teeny tiny bit - but I will say even with 40/60 I have not had to do this.

You have your eyes set on a lovely kit - hope it serves you well!

Thank you. From what Ive read and seen I cant wait. Ive set aside a bit of money for this so after thats in the checkout basket, extra battery, and bought the liquid I will fill my money limit with carts

 

[CreepyLady]

Thank you. From what Ive read and seen I cant wait. Ive set aside a bit of money for this so after thats in the checkout basket, extra battery, and bought the liquid I will fill my money limit with carts

That is usually precisely what I do! Staying stocked on them will keep you and your tanks happy

 

[daz96134]

I have to tell you, I really wish I had started with a carto tank instead of the plethora of of clearo's I now have collecting dust. On the other hand, I wouldn't know how great they are if I hadn't.

One thing to keep in mind, I belive the tank you have chosen is plastic. Not a big deal unless you plan on using juices that can fog or crack plastic. Cinnamons, Citrus, etc. If you like the Cartos and want to invest a little more down the road, I strongly recommend IBtanked. IBTanked - Get Tanked With Us!

You will find a lot of opinions on particular cartos. I have boges that work great, but honestly, the smoke single coils I think work just fine as well. Like CreepyLady said (and she's not creepy at all. Very nice actually lol) i would go ahead and order a couple boxes of cartos. you may get a dud or two, and the shipping cant be much more for a box than for a single.

Good luck!

Yea I know what you mean about clearos. But as you say if we didnt we couldn't respect the good quality products when we discover them and the difference it makes. One question I do have for you all. What differences does the ohm make. I hear grimmgreen says 2 ohms but not sure of the difference in ohm. Less battery life? More fh? More vapour? :/

 

[daz96134]

That being with ego twist and other variable voltage batterys. Heard 2.2 is the magic number :/

 

[CreepyLady]

Thats is the resistance. It will perform lovely whilst not totally taxing your battery. Basically - its low enough resistance to find a "sweet spot" with an ego twist and not pushing your battery to its limits. You get flavor, vapor and throat hit and maintain battery performance

 

[TheJakeBailey]

Yea I know what you mean about clearos. But as you say if we didnt we couldn't respect the good quality products when we discover them and the difference it makes. One question I do have for you all. What differences does the ohm make. I hear grimmgreen says 2 ohms but not sure of the difference in ohm. Less battery life? More fh? More vapour? :/

A little bit of all of the above. 2 ohms is a great middle of the road spot to be in. 1.5 i think is also fine.

CreepyLady already posted it, but this is an EXCELLENT resource on cartos! It helped countless people here make the switch.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4830-8-cartotank-help-noob.html

Also
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-5-baditudes-cartomizer-tank-setup-guide.html

and
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...6-something-safe-cinnamon-citrus-flavors.html

 

[daz96134]

A little bit of all of the above. 2 ohms is a great middle of the road spot to be in. 1.5 i think is also fine.

CreepyLady already posted it, but this is an EXCELLENT resource on cartos! It helped countless people here make the switch.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4830-8-cartotank-help-noob.html

Also
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-5-baditudes-cartomizer-tank-setup-guide.html

and
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...6-something-safe-cinnamon-citrus-flavors.html

Thank you all. Bit of light reading before bed. Ive saved them in my bookmarks . So with the kit then. It comes with 5 extra cartomizers which I believe are 1.6-2.0 ohm. When I fill my basket full of extra boge carts would you go for the same ones or do you recommend any others. Also with my past of being hit with fakes basically. Is there a way to know if the carts are actually boge or if the tank is legit ect.

 

[rurwin]

With e-cigarettes, every improvement in technology adds problems for you to fix. That's why I recommend starting with pre-filled cartomisers. (Not that I am as knowledgeable as those who have already replied to you, but I might be closer to the starting point, so more aware of the issues.) With a cartomiser, vaping is pretty much plug-and-play.

I've not got into cartomiser tanks but it seems to me to be about the same level of problems as clearomisers, where you get wicking issues, fiddly filling procedures, leaking, burning, tank cracking and so forth. Those are simple enough to fix on their own, and an experienced vaper handles them almost without thinking, but added to the whole new experience I feel they are best avoided for a while so a newbie vaper can get on and learn how to vape and get their nicotine fix. Prefilled cartos are cheaper than cigarettes, but not much, so the next step is refilling the cartomisers. From there you would be moving over to either clearomisers or carto tanks. At each step you master the technology before moving up. By understanding each technology, you find out what issues you need to fix for your own personal enjoyment and therefore which step up in technology will best fix them.

It is, of course, possible to just jump in in the middle. It's even possible to make a rebuildable genesis and a mechanical mod your first vape, but it would be a tough learning curve.

 

[trouble1000]

Glad to hear you're getting things nailed down now, I had a feeling some other ECF gurus would be able to help out with the cartos

If you fancy trying out the vivi novas again, I'd recommend vape escape. Great place for advice and CS. I've not had a bad item from there yet. Plus they do some great juices there too :

Vape Escape

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi daz96134 and welcome to ECF. Compliments of highly regarded and long time vaper Chrissie here's a list of reputable UK Vendors with discount codes. Note at top of page a link to a map of B&M Shops:
http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboar...quid-vendors-discount-codes?page=1&scrollTo=2

That being with ego twist and other variable voltage batterys. Heard 2.2 is the magic number :/

The Twist fires from 3.3- 4.8 volts and most of us find a 2.4 ohms carto gives the widest range of usage voltage wise. Too high of ohms and vape is weak while too low and we get a burnt taste. Here's a chart that will give you a "general" idea:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

Realize also diff juices will taste much better at different voltages- that's the true advantage of VV vaping.

Ive heard good things about boge. So from CoolVapes.co.uk Im going to get the £39 Kit. 2x Boge F16 Tanks, 5x Spare Cartomizers, Ego Twist 1100mah, Plinth, Charger, and case. Also Getting a nice Drip Tip for £2.99 and an extra ego twist for £18.99

That's a pretty fair price. Just understand the 1000 Twist is very long esp when a cartomizer is added.

 

[daz96134]

Hi daz96134 and welcome to ECF. Compliments of highly regarded and long time vaper Chrissie here's a list of reputable UK Vendors with discount codes. Note at top of page a link to a map of B&M Shops:
http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboar...quid-vendors-discount-codes?page=1&scrollTo=2


The Twist fires from 3.3- 4.8 volts and most of us find a 2.4 ohms carto gives the widest range of usage voltage wise. Too high of ohms and vape is weak while too low and we get a burnt taste. Here's a chart that will give you a "general" idea:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

Realize also diff juices will taste much better at different voltages- that's the true advantage of VV vaping.


That's a pretty fair price. Just understand the 1000 Twist is very long esp when a cartomizer is added.

Yea seen a couple on some videos. Size is ok for me for home use, drving and work. Think the only trouble I'll have is on a night out for example. Maybe instead of my spare being 1100 maybe be best of with one big and one small twist. Thanks for the coupons and have given me a chance to rethink the spare battery decision. After all it will be just used while the other charges so might be usefull for nights out with the smaller option as a back up instead

 

[daz96134]

Will defiantly be using that 20% offer for cool vape Gets me a few more carts

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Will defiantly be using that 20% offer for cool vape Gets me a few more carts

"Cool" Chrissie is VERY selective about who's on that list and has no problem removing a Vendor if they're not providing quality products and good CS. I own both the Twists and Spinners. I prefer the Spinner cuz although 1 mm wider it is shorter. Also visible voltage markings and wider knurled voltage dial.
The 3 top carto vendors are Ikenvape, SmokTech and Boge in no particular order.
While at home I use a larger Mod. While out and about I use the Spinner.

Edit: There's also a smaller 800 mah VV/ VW PV BUT it uses a diff charger. Complete kit is about $30.00? U.S. Made by Innokin.
Here it is at a great price from a reputable vendor. Can also be used as a passthrough ( vape while charging) I own the Innokin MVP 2 and find the quality of their products superior to others.
http://myepack.co.uk/kits/itaste-vv-v3-o.html

 

[djsvapour]

Have you bought?

That's all good kit you have lined up, but the F-16 is not my favourite, I must say.

The evod kit is good though, as is most of the rest.

 

[daz96134]

No not bought yet, payday wednesday 15th this week so will be placing the order that morning before work to get the ball rolling. And hopefully be delivered and set up for saturday. Along with my last packet of fags in the bin lol