Looking into VV PV's any suggestions

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I was looking in to the VV PV's and was wondering if this is the ultimate way to go if money is no problem and wanted to get some input. Does anyone have any opinions on some of the VV's PV's like Provari that are out there or is this the only VV. Its seems to me that a VV is the easiest way to find your sweet spots easily for different juices.
 

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The Provari is a fine PV and has much support. I personally like the Darwin for a couple of reasons. One, the technology: Darwin is the only PV that has circuitry that senses the changes in the resistence of the atomizer/cartomizer as you vape and automatically adusts the power level to maintain a completely consistent vaping experience to your preference. Second, the battery life: I am a very heavy vaper and I get 21+ hours on a charge. Many have reported getting 30 hours or more on a charge. I plug it in at night and don't have to worry about carrying extra batteries during the day. Third, it doubles as a pass-through so you can vape while you charge. Fourth, it is the only PV, at no extra charge, that comes with a 2 year warranty on the device and a one year warranty on the battery.

The Darwin

Drew usually gets new shipments every 10 - 14 days.
 

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My favorite is the Buzz by notcigs.com.

Hubby's is the Provari by Provape.com.

The Darwin didn't appeal to either of us. Plainly put, it's ugly. Neither of us like the boxy shape of it.

Beauty is in the "eye of the beholder". You would be surprised how "sleek" it is up close and how compact it fits in the hand.
 

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I don't think the Darwin looks bad... its got that industrial look to it and I actually kind of like it. The main reason I went with the ProVari and not the Darwin is because I didn't like the atty connection on the Darwin. I've read that people have gotten juice inside the atty connector which eventually made its way inside the case, causing the Darwin to quit working for a while. If it wasn't for that I may have went with the Darwin as it does have some really, really nice things going for it.
 

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The Provari is a fine PV and has much support. I personally like the Darwin for a couple of reasons. One, the technology: Darwin is the only PV that has circuitry that senses the changes in the resistence of the atomizer/cartomizer as you vape and automatically adusts the power level to maintain a completely consistent vaping experience to your preference. Second, the battery life: I am a very heavy vaper and I get 21+ hours on a charge. Many have reported getting 30 hours or more on a charge. I plug it in at night and don't have to worry about carrying extra batteries during the day. Third, it doubles as a pass-through so you can vape while you charge. Fourth, it is the only PV, at no extra charge, that comes with a 2 year warranty on the device and a one year warranty on the battery.

The Darwin

Drew usually gets new shipments every 10 - 14 days.

I think the darwin is amazing, but my provari has exactly the same hit while my low battery indicator is flashing, as it did when i hit it at 4.2v fresh off the charger. it senses atty ohms but it does not tell you your wattage or allow you to adjust by wattage like the darwin. the atty ohm auto adjustment and monitoring SOUNDS awesome, and "omg i cant believe it does that", but the facts are.....and ask yourself...have you ever had an atty that changed its own ohm resistance ....now we all know the resistance drops over usage...but it is gradual, i have never had an atty that this draw was 3.2 ohms and my next drag was 2.8 ohms.....just not needed imho...now here is the shocker, the darwin does cost less than the provari. once you put together the batts and charger and so on unless you already have the batts and charger...as i did then the provari is half the price of the darwin...well more like 75% of the cost i am not taking away from anything, they are both amazing devices but the op wants all facts im sure, not just facts on the darwin.....the darwin is light well made with a sealed batt......like an iphone, when the batt goes.....you are out of a pv until you ship it off, wait a week or two for a batt change or best case scenario order one yourself and keep it on hand for such an event and hopefully it wont be to hard to take apart and change the batt ......provari with a 18650 aw imr batt lasts me a day and a wake up so after my morning vape i switch batts and then recharge the dead one, no tether. the provari is heavy, very heavy compared to an ego or even the darwin but it is solid i would say i could run it over with a car and besides the scratches would be none the worse for ware...but all i can say is do some research...find what features you would want in a vv pv and go from there...there is plenty of good info in this forum on all vv pv's if you are not sure vv is for you i think madvapes has a vv box mod for 39 dollars ready to go..........
 
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Gotta go with the Buzz myself. It's an extremely durable VV device that has worked flawlessly for me since I got it (over 5 months ago) and cost me less than 2/3 as much as a ProVari would have. They're going for $99.95 right now. The ProVari is on sale for $179.95. Granted, the ProVari has more features and is more complex electronically but when all is said and done, they pretty much do the same thing.
Oh yeah, my Buzz vapes at the same level until the battery dies too.
 

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Gotta go with the Buzz myself. It's an extremely durable VV device that has worked flawlessly for me since I got it (over 5 months ago) and cost me less than 2/3 as much as a ProVari would have. They're going for $99.95 right now. The ProVari is on sale for $179.95. Granted, the ProVari has more features and is more complex electronically but when all is said and done, they pretty much do the same thing.
Oh yeah, my Buzz vapes at the same level until the battery dies too.

its 179 for the se edition...its only 159 for the satin finish....the buzz adjusts its voltage with a screwdriver with no digital readout so there is no way to know any of your preferences unless you have and know how to use a multimeter.. great mod though..original vv if im not mistaken..... and for that reason if you wanted something small and light check out the infinity...still no readout but the thumbwheel adjustment on the fly is nice...people who have used the buzz tell me it is consistant with adjustments like ...and dont quote me on this.....but i have been told things in example as .....one full turn is .3v or sumting....not acurate on my part but an exapmle...
 
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its 179 for the se edition...its only 159 for the satin finish....the buzz adjusts its voltage with a screwdriver with no digital readout so there is no way to know any of your preferences unless you have and know how to use a multimeter.. great mod though..original vv if im not mistaken..... and for that reason if you wanted something small and light check out the infinity...still no readout but the thumbwheel adjustment on the fly is nice...people who have used the buzz tell me it is consistant with adjustments like ...and dont quote me on this.....but i have been told things in example as .....one full turn is .3v or sumting....not acurate but an exapmle...

All true, except Notcigs sells a digital readout, screw on volt meter for $10.00 so the total with a digital meter is $110.00. That's still $50.00 cheaper. I'm not dissin' the ProVari, I know a few people who own them and love them. I was shopping for VV when there was still a waiting list for the ProVari and was considering it. After talking to several folks here on the boards I chose the Buzz because of the price and availability (I had it two days after I ordered it). Turns out that NotCigs has the best customer service I've seen yet as well.
 

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All true, except Notcigs sells a digital readout, screw on volt meter for $10.00 so the total with a digital meter is $110.00. That's still $50.00 cheaper. I'm not dissin' the ProVari, I know a few people who own them and love them. I was shopping for VV when there was still a waiting list for the ProVari and was considering it. After talking to several folks here on the boards I chose the Buzz because of the price and availability (I had it two days after I ordered it). Turns out that NotCigs has the best customer service I've seen yet as well.

awesome thanx for the info i have been looking for a back up for my provari because i did send my first unit back to provape not for improper function but i got a chrome one and there was the smallest of chips right on the bottom of the battery tube but David was amazing i did have to pay to ship it to them but they shipped me a brand new one no questions asked..priority.. same day they recieved the original one back which i used for three days contimplating whether it was worth fooling with since i didnt want to be without it at all because nothing i had before satisfied me like it ...but the buzz sounds like exactly what i need as im not to fond of my indulgence unless im at 6.2v with a 3.2ohm to a 3.8ohm carto and you can tell not cigs you sold a buzz and a multimeter for them.........probaly in about three weeks...quick question.....anyone have any expirence with an infinity i think this is one of the sexiest mods out there.....would love some feed back on it ............opps I appoligize, disregard that...........i didnt mean to try and hyjack your thread i will repost this in general....

appoligize for the edit but i remembered provari is down to a one week wait time on shipping out orders.....
 
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Thank you guys lots of good input, but i do have a question on the VV also. With a VV do you need to have so many diffrant ohm and attys like LR,HR or reg attys or carto's? Is the idea the you can change the VV make up for not having so many or does it still make a difference to use all the different attys and carto? Still trying to learn without getting confused lol.
 

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and ask yourself...have you ever had an atty that changed its own ohm resistance.

Yes...they all do...sometimes as much as .5 ohms

Case in point: I have a vortex here that is over 3ohms primed with one juice. As I drag it varies a bit.

This same carto with a different juice rates at 2.7ohms.

I can watch it change as I draw on a Darwin...the largest fluctuation I've seen on an atty while vaping so far as been in a range of .5ohms.

Granted, it's probably not something many people would notice as they vape, but it IS true that the resistance changes all the time.
 
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Thank you guys lots of good input, but i do have a question on the VV also. With a VV do you need to have so many diffrant ohm and attys like LR,HR or reg attys or carto's? Is the idea the you can change the VV make up for not having so many or does it still make a difference to use all the different attys and carto? Still trying to learn without getting confused lol.

That is correct...with VV like Darwin, Provari, Buzz, etc.....
You can use all those atty types and tune them up or down to your tastes.

It's not necissary to have different resistances. You can tune the heat of what ever atomizers you have up or down. Note, going too high might pop some atties of course.

It's not uncommon for atties to need a little more voltage as they age to achive the same 'heat' as they did when they were new. Also, the juice used can have some bearing on that as well.

VV to me has been worth every penny. I'm able to use alot of cartos and atties that I've aquired over time that were junk before and vape really well with just a little more power on them now :)
 
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