Looking into VV PV's any suggestions

[Wharf Rat]

I could never go back to fixed volt. All the devices being discussed here are worthy. For me, and others I've talked to with all the mentioned above, after a week of playing with voltage you find what works for you. I end up pulling out my dmm once in a while to check where I'm and can guess alot of the time.

SlumD, I love both but my favorite is my ∞. I like the sleekness, barely thicker than a eGo. And I love the wheel, I can bump it up or down on the fly, even while taking a toke.

 

[fray]

I have an infinity myself and it is a nice device. I like that I can use my thumb to adjust the voltage. There are a couple drawbacks. The battery life isn't fantastic compared to the mods that take big 18mm batteries. The regulator is maxed out at 2 amps so it can limit you to what you use. It may not be true for all the infinitys, but mine has a hard draw so I have to use an extension. All in all I like it, but I wish I could try out some of the dual coil cartos that have come out lately.


Those drawbacks are offset by the ease of use and reliability. I use mine every day and it has ruined me on 3.7v vaping

 

[minx]

After researching for a VV device I went with the Infinity, it's sleek and just a bit thicker than an ego battery. I keep spare batteries charged just in case but I pop a fresh set in, in the morning and I'm good until late in the evening (over 12 hours). I love the wheel adjustment, and it doesn't really matter that it doesn't display the voltage at me, I know where middle is and left and right, it's all I need to find the spots. The price was right, and I cannot say enough about the support you get from Notcigs, they are excellent. My next mod will be another VV and it will be from Notcigs.
Picking the right mod is a personal thing, ask questions in their forums, read what others have to say before picking, and get the one you will love, because you will love the VV.

 

[wyojoe]

Check out the VaporLuxe at Aceofvapes. They are out of stock now but will have more supplies in soon. This is the best VV that I own, it has everything you need in one package and so easy to use. Very good craftmanship, quality and appearance . Works wonderfully, and has a 3000 mAh battery and the unit has a self charger so you don't need a separate battery charger. Get on their waiting list, its worth it. Love mine.

 

[six]

If you want to try out VV on the cheap, you could have a look at the Madvapes VV box mod. At thirty-five bucks, it's pretty hard not to try it to find out if VV is for you.

 

[slumdog]

Yes...they all do...sometimes as much as .5 ohms

Case in point: I have a vortex here that is over 3ohms primed with one juice. As I drag it varies a bit.

This same carto with a different juice rates at 2.7ohms.

I can watch it change as I draw on a Darwin...the largest fluctuation I've seen on an atty while vaping so far as been in a range of .5ohms.

Granted, it's probably not something many people would notice as they vape, but it IS true that the resistance changes all the time.

The next line i typed explained exactly what you just did that they do drop gradualy but if you have a pv with voltage regulation this is not a needed feature.....

 

[Brewtus]

the Ali'i is hands down the best VV mod for your money, JMHO, sure the wait sucks, but you'll never want to vape on anything else once you get it

 

[Digs]

Thank you guys lots of good input, but i do have a question on the VV also. With a VV do you need to have so many diffrant ohm and attys like LR,HR or reg attys or carto's? Is the idea the you can change the VV make up for not having so many or does it still make a difference to use all the different attys and carto? Still trying to learn without getting confused lol.

If you have a VV device then it doesn't really matter which ohm atty you use because you can dial the voltage up and down to get any power you want. So you can use a LR 1.5 ohm 306 or a 3.5 ohm 306 and make them hit about the same.

However, there are advantages to using higher resistance atomizers. They draw less current to achieve the same amount of power which will prolong the life of the electronics. Also, if you use a low resistance atty (like 1.5ohms) and and there is an amp limit (current limit) on the device to protect the electronics (like there is on the Buzz & ProVari), you won't be able to get as much power on a LR as you would on a higher ohm atty because it takes more current to power LRs.

I'll show you how this works. First, if we know the device's amp limit then we can use Ohm's law to figure out the maximum amount of voltage we can deliver to an atomizer. Then we can use Joule's law to figure out the maximum amount of watts we can get with that setup.

For example, if the VV device is only capable of supplying 2A of current, and we're using a 1.5Ω atty, then we know that we can only safely power it with 3 volts:

Max Voltage = Current Limit of Device * Atty Resistance
Max Voltage = 2A * 1.5Ω = 3V

Going over 3 volts will trigger the device to stop if it has protection against exceeding the amp limit. If it has no protection but is rated at 2A then you may overheat some of the electronics.

Now since we know 3V is the limit with this atty we can find out how much power we can get out of it:

Max Power = Current * Voltage
Max Power = 2A * 3V = 6 watts

The max power we can get using 1.5Ω atty with a 2A limit VV device is 6 watts (a medium vape).

Now let's look at what happens if we use a 3Ω atty with the same 2A limit VV device:

Max Voltage = 2A * 3Ω = 6V

We can safely supply 6V to this atty without exceeding the 2A limit.

Max Power = 2A * 6V = 12 watts

We can get up to 12 watts (a very, very hot vape) with this atty. So the higher resistance atties give you more power options and that's why I would recommend using atties there are somewhere in the range of 2.4-3.5 ohms.

 

[mwa102464]

I fully agree with with the VV Ali'i I run 2 of them all day long each loaded with a different flavor and hands down for a VV mod it has been the best one out of all the ones I have tried and I have used most of the better ones on the market. HOWEVER the one coming out this month I think will top the VV Ali'i, the Eclipse, this is going to be the one !!! I'm extremely looking forward to having this one after testing it out at the Philly vape fest, it ROCKS !

 

[mwa102464]

@ Digs, I run the Iken 3.5ohm 510 on my VV mods, all of them, and it is by far the best dam Atty on the market and also provides me with the best dam vape I have ever had to date !!!

 

[Digs]

@ Digs, I run the Iken 3.5ohm 510 on my VV mods, all of them, and it is by far the best dam Atty on the market and also provides me with the best dam vape I have ever had to date !!!

I haven't tried the Iken 510 but I've been using a Iken 3.5ohm 306 for the past few days to test flavors and it's been working really good for me too. I like it at about 5V (about 7 watts) when it reads 3.5 ohm but I've seen it drop all the way down to 2.2 after a few days of vaping. I steadily decreased the voltage over time. There is where a Darwin shines because it handles the voltage for you, modifying it as necessary to achieve a constant power. I had to manually change my voltage when I noticed the vape getting too hot. Not a big deal though as it seems to rarely happen (first time for me) and it's not like it happens very fast. I may have had to adjust the voltage once or twice a day.

Just as a side note: I cleaned this atty by dry burning it, soaking it in alcohol, and letting it dry. It returned to 3.5 ohms after that.

 

[udlike2no2]

If you have a VV device then it doesn't really matter which ohm atty you use because you can dial the voltage up and down to get any power you want. So you can use a LR 1.5 ohm 306 or a 3.5 ohm 306 and make them hit about the same.

However, there are advantages to using higher resistance atomizers. They draw less current to achieve the same amount of power which will prolong the life of the electronics. Also, if you use a low resistance atty (like 1.5ohms) and and there is an amp limit (current limit) on the device to protect the electronics (like there is on the Buzz & ProVari), you won't be able to get as much power on a LR as you would on a higher ohm atty because it takes more current to power LRs.

I'll show you how this works. First, if we know the device's amp limit then we can use Ohm's law to figure out the maximum amount of voltage we can deliver to an atomizer. Then we can use Joule's law to figure out the maximum amount of watts we can get with that setup.

For example, if the VV device is only capable of supplying 2A of current, and we're using a 1.5Ω atty, then we know that we can only safely power it with 3 volts:

Max Voltage = Current Limit of Device * Atty Resistance
Max Voltage = 2A * 1.5Ω = 3V

Going over 3 volts will trigger the device to stop if it has protection against exceeding the amp limit. If it has no protection but is rated at 2A then you may overheat some of the electronics.

Now since we know 3V is the limit with this atty we can find out how much power we can get out of it:

Max Power = Current * Voltage
Max Power = 2A * 3V = 6 watts

The max power we can get using 1.5Ω atty with a 2A limit VV device is 6 watts (a medium vape).

Now let's look at what happens if we use a 3Ω atty with the same 2A limit VV device:

Max Voltage = 2A * 3Ω = 6V

We can safely supply 6V to this atty without exceeding the 2A limit.

Max Power = 2A * 6V = 12 watts

We can get up to 12 watts (a very, very hot vape) with this atty. So the higher resistance atties give you more power options and that's why I would recommend using atties there are somewhere in the range of 2.4-3.5 ohms.

Now i understand thank you very well done, that's what i wanted to know. Now have to see what VV to get 8). All these grate BWB I have sounds like they have a hidden second life of flavor in them.

 

[Digs]

Hey I'm always glad to help!

 

[MickeyRat]

There's a realatively cheap way to dip your toe into the VV pool, if you're not sure. I'm not either. I'm certain I want a bottom feeder because I built one (The modders forum is great.) and tried it. It's a little harder to build a VV. However, madvapes just started carrying a VV box mod for around $35. It's not something I would want to depend on long term but, it'll give you a chance to try VV out for cheap.

 

[mwa102464]

I haven't tried the Iken 510 but I've been using a Iken 3.5ohm 306 for the past few days to test flavors and it's been working really good for me too. I like it at about 5V (about 7 watts) when it reads 3.5 ohm but I've seen it drop all the way down to 2.2 after a few days of vaping. I steadily decreased the voltage over time. There is where a Darwin shines because it handles the voltage for you, modifying it as necessary to achieve a constant power. I had to manually change my voltage when I noticed the vape getting too hot. Not a big deal though as it seems to rarely happen (first time for me) and it's not like it happens very fast. I may have had to adjust the voltage once or twice a day.

Just as a side note: I cleaned this atty by dry burning it, soaking it in alcohol, and letting it dry. It returned to 3.5 ohms after that.

Gotch ya, I dont like the 306 but I understand its all subjective to what each individual likes. I've been running these Iken 3.5ohm Attys since he has come out with these newer ones and they just out perform everything else in my book. I run them on all my bottome feeder and Provari and run them at 6v and find it is there peak performance number to me. Never the less it is a dam good Atty and they smoothest running HV Atty on the market in my book

 

[nbourbaki]

I have a Darwin and it's been great. I love the fact that I can use it as a passthrough and when I need it to be more portable, I unplug the USB cable and I'm good to go. No additional chargers necessary, I just use a USB power source which I carry with me anyway. At work, it's my laptop, in my car it's my USB converter, very nice. Adjusting the power is easy and with the LCD read out, I know what the power level is at a glance. For me it has about 24 hours of battery capacity. The only time I didn't make 24 hours was when I was using 1.5Ohm dual coil cartos. It only weighs 133g. Compared to my Silver Bullet with a 18650 battery which weighs 161g. It fits my hand very nicely. Two year warranty with one year on the battery.

It's great that we now have choices for variable power/voltage. With more competition, the prices will come down and capabilities will go up. The new Buzz is coming out soon with a new regulator that's reported to me a lot more efficient. Great time to be a vaper.

 

[udlike2no2]

I have a Darwin and it's been great. I love the fact that I can use it as a passthrough and when I need it to be more portable, I unplug the USB cable and I'm good to go. No additional chargers necessary, I just use a USB power source which I carry with me anyway. At work, it's my laptop, in my car it's my USB converter, very nice. Adjusting the power is easy and with the LCD read out, I know what the power level is at a glance. For me it has about 24 hours of battery capacity. The only time I didn't make 24 hours was when I was using 1.5Ohm dual coil cartos. It only weighs 133g. Compared to my Silver Bullet with a 18650 battery which weighs 161g. It fits my hand very nicely. Two year warranty with one year on the battery.

It's great that we now have choices for variable power/voltage. With more competition, the prices will come down and capabilities will go up. The new Buzz is coming out soon with a new regulator that's reported to me a lot more efficient. Great time to be a vaper.

Yes I am liking the idea of the portability because I do drive allot for work and i am thinking this would be a grate way to go. I like the bottom feeders also but i am always changing my carto for different mood's for flavors and this is also convenient. Been using the vortex's carto's and its like a bottom feeder just smaller amounts IMO

 

[BuzzKill]

If you have a VV device then it doesn't really matter which ohm atty you use because you can dial the voltage up and down to get any power you want. So you can use a LR 1.5 ohm 306 or a 3.5 ohm 306 and make them hit about the same.

However, there are advantages to using higher resistance atomizers. They draw less current to achieve the same amount of power which will prolong the life of the electronics. Also, if you use a low resistance atty (like 1.5ohms) and and there is an amp limit (current limit) on the device to protect the electronics (like there is on the Buzz & ProVari), you won't be able to get as much power on a LR as you would on a higher ohm atty because it takes more current to power LRs.

I'll show you how this works. First, if we know the device's amp limit then we can use Ohm's law to figure out the maximum amount of voltage we can deliver to an atomizer. Then we can use Joule's law to figure out the maximum amount of watts we can get with that setup.

For example, if the VV device is only capable of supplying 2A of current, and we're using a 1.5Ω atty, then we know that we can only safely power it with 3 volts:

Max Voltage = Current Limit of Device * Atty Resistance
Max Voltage = 2A * 1.5Ω = 3V

Going over 3 volts will trigger the device to stop if it has protection against exceeding the amp limit. If it has no protection but is rated at 2A then you may overheat some of the electronics.

Now since we know 3V is the limit with this atty we can find out how much power we can get out of it:

Max Power = Current * Voltage
Max Power = 2A * 3V = 6 watts

The max power we can get using 1.5Ω atty with a 2A limit VV device is 6 watts (a medium vape).

Now let's look at what happens if we use a 3Ω atty with the same 2A limit VV device:

Max Voltage = 2A * 3Ω = 6V

We can safely supply 6V to this atty without exceeding the 2A limit.

Max Power = 2A * 6V = 12 watts

We can get up to 12 watts (a very, very hot vape) with this atty. So the higher resistance atties give you more power options and that's why I would recommend using atties there are somewhere in the range of 2.4-3.5 ohms.

Digs you totally GET IT !! , it is refreshing to see this , to add to this info a battery is a CURRENT storage device the MAH rating tells you how much storage there is , if you can reduce the current draw ( higher resistance ) you increase the battery charge time.

 

[slumdog]

I could never go back to fixed volt. All the devices being discussed here are worthy. For me, and others I've talked to with all the mentioned above, after a week of playing with voltage you find what works for you. I end up pulling out my dmm once in a while to check where I'm and can guess alot of the time.

SlumD, I love both but my favorite is my ∞. I like the sleekness, barely thicker than a eGo. And I love the wheel, I can bump it up or down on the fly, even while taking a toke.

thanks so much for the feedback i will wait for the infinity pro to come out then that baby is mine lol...

 

[Zofryer]

I did a review of three here:

Tale Of Three VV’s: Comparison of three variable voltage electronic nicotine inhalers » Tenburn's Reviews