Looking to upgrade but dont know what to get

[planetofthemapes]

so i really wanna get into rebuildables and im pretty sure im going to get the orchid. my question is, what mod/battery should i go to? I was considering an itaste mvp but i know you cant go below 1 ohm resistance with it and while i dont plan on building lower than that, i would like to have the option to do so. Suggestions?

 

[nasca]

If you're considering the mvp, perhaps check out the eleaf istick. I've never used one, but seems to be popular lately.

And I might be incorrect, but with a higher wattage regulated device, I believe people just build a middle of the road coil and just crank up the watts rather than building sub ohm coils like with a mechanical mod.

 

[planetofthemapes]

yeah its my plan to just build over 1 ohm but you never know what i might want to do. thanks for the suggestion!! i've seen lots of people talking about the ileaf as well but i would like a few options to research and see whats gonna work best for me

 

[DaveSignal]

I would avoid either of those if you want to future proof your purchase. For regulated mods, I would get a DNA40 device, a Sigelei 50 or 100 watt, an ipv2 or ipv3. But I haven't actually tried any of these. I use mechanicals. A mech mod would also work great with your rebuildable, as long as you are building below 1 ohm.

 

[roxynoodle]

Nothing wrong with the istick. Can get up to 20w, but 1.0 ohm is the lower limit.

 

[planetofthemapes]

I would avoid either of those if you want to future proof your purchase. For regulated mods, I would get a DNA40 device, a Sigelei 50 or 100 watt, an ipv2 or ipv3. But I haven't actually tried any of these. I use mechanicals. A mech mod would also work great with your rebuildable, as long as you are building below 1 ohm.

thanks for all the suggestions! what mechanical mods do you recommend? I am considering regulated OR mechanical. Im still so new to this i don't know how low I'm going to want to go so i am trying to keep my options open. Im attending a build class in a week and a half hopefully after that i will have a better grasp on all this stuff. i started with a 2.1 ohm coil and when i went down to 1.8 i was like YES! so much more flavor so I'm excited to see how 1 ohm and sub ohms will taste/cloud.

 

[DaveSignal]

If you are going to get mechanical, you need to start building sub-ohm right away, because this is how you get power from the device. Some of the best mech mod clones I have are:
Shenxi Slug mod
Shenxi Panzer Red Phoenix
Vapetech Pegasus
XXIX (Fantastic and very small, but you might not want this to start out though because it is a hybrid atomizer connection)
Paragon

I have a lot of other mech mods that I use and like, but I think many of them required too much tinkering to get working perfectly to recommend here.

 

[nasca]

I kinda think high wattage regulated mods are where it's at these days and mech mods are on the way out. If you can swing a dna30/40 device like a vaporshark rDNA or hana modz, definitely go that way. for less money, the ones that davesignal recommended are a good choice as well. If you want small and inexpensive and dont need massive wattage, the istick is well regarded.

good luck.

 

[slyphex]

The Hamoriko is a very low-cost authentic mechanical mod. There is a bit of a wait time, but for $85 shipped you will get 3 different sized battery tubes.

You can always add a Kick2 to a mechanical mod to turn it into a regulated device. A Kick2 is around $50.

Unless you're into super sub ohm cloud chasing, regulated is the way to go. Here's why:

Suppose you want to vape with a 30 watt coil. On a mech mod, you will need to build your coil to hit 0.6 ohms. With a regulated device that can go up to 30W, you can build your coil anywhere in the operating range - say something like 1.5 ohms - and still have a 30w vape.

This gives you some leeway when building your coil, you don't need to be 100% precise. It also allows you to use more wraps with your coil which provides more surface area on your wick and ultimately more vapor.

 

[jersey_emt]

If you are going to get mechanical, you need to start building sub-ohm right away, because this is how you get power from the device.

Bad advice. When you are new to building coils, you really should stay in the 1.0 - 1.5 ohm range. There's just too many ways to mess up by immediately diving in the deep end and building subohm coils. You can still get plenty of flavor and vapor from a mechanical mod from these safer, higher resistance coils.

 

[unlvjeffro]

Since you are new to all of this, I recommend a regulated mod. I am new too, and I did not want the worries of shorts, or putting in a battery incorrectly. I like the safety features of a regulated mod, and with you being new to rolling coils, etc... I believe that is your best bet. Once you get comfortable, then move on to mechanicals, if the mood suits you.

I have a Sigelei 100watt, and I love it mostly...LOL... I usually run it at about 65watts, battery life is excellent, and has the safety features mentioned above. Plus it is only 90.00

good luck

 

[Millah]

I can't believe how quick some people are to go straight to recommending a novice a mech mod and sub ohming. Irresponsible if you ask me.

You want a regulated device because it will have safety features to protect you when things inevitably go wrong while you're learning. Unless you want to buy a multimeter or an ohm reader, you fully understand battery safety and amperage/watts/voltage, you understand that the locking mechanism on the mech fails it could autofire indefinitely without you knowing and lead to bad things, then yea go dive right in to the world of mechanicals and subohming.

Go with a regulated mod. If you want a box mod, go with any DNA40 device (which now has temperature limiting to prevent dry hits). I recommend the Vaporshark rDNA, reasonably priced and well built and easy to get. Or you could just go with the eLeaf iStick like several others have mentioned. Its a fantastic little device. Although the DNA will be more reliable in the long term.

And make sure you get the proper 18650 batteries whether you get a mech or regulated. LG HE2 is a good choice. Or the Samsung INR18650 25R.

 

[planetofthemapes]

Bad advice. When you are new to building coils, you really should stay in the 1.0 - 1.5 ohm range. There's just too many ways to mess up by immediately diving in the deep end and building subohm coils. You can still get plenty of flavor and vapor from a mechanical mod from these safer, higher resistance coils.

Yeah i have no plans to sub ohm anytime in the near future. was hoping to find something that could do a little over 1 ohm with the option to go lower later after i have a lot more experience haha. looks like im just gonna have to buy something regulated now and then if i do decide to sub ohm later i'll just buy a mechanical mod.

 

[bholcomb22]

I'm going to have to recommend the IPV2. This will give you a lot of versatility. It can go as low as .2 ohms all the way to 3 ohms, and can provide up to 50 watts.

I have had mine for a couple months and has taken all my mechs but 1 out of rotation. I only use my mech for super sub ohm coils now (usually around .2 ohms)

Getting a mech over something like a 50 watt mod will really limit you to what you can build because the resistence is going to determine how much power you will be vaping. If you have a high wattage md you can build a 1.8 ohm coil that will fire like crap on a mech, but on a regulated device running around 20 + watts may give you the best vape you've ever had. It will allow you to have more surface area and still be able to fire it like it is a .3 ohm coil on a mech.

 

[tater66]

I just got a Tatroe Atlas SX-350 mod, and would suggest you at least look at those as well.

just a thought YMMV

 

[Jonner]

I don't have any suggestions on a mod, other than stay away from mechanicals until you are comfortable with you understanding of coils, ohms, etc...

But I have a question for you: Are you absolutely set on the Orchid? If not, definitely take a look at the Erlkoenigin/Erlprinz/clones. There's a nice thread here discussing them. I have a Prinz and a clone, pretty happy with both.

 

[planetofthemapes]

I don't have any suggestions on a mod, other than stay away from mechanicals until you are comfortable with you understanding of coils, ohms, etc...

But I have a question for you: Are you absolutely set on the Orchid? If not, definitely take a look at the Erlkoenigin/Erlprinz/clones. There's a nice thread here discussing them. I have a Prinz and a clone, pretty happy with both.

Im going to attend a build class in the next week or two. i work at a vape shop so for the past couple of months ive done a lot of research on products we carry but there is so much out there and our selection is limited. Im not SET on the orchid, but i love that you can put more juice in it since i dont want to have to drip every few puffs. I also like the outer material of the tank. So really, im thinking the orchid cause ive learned about it and i feel comfortable trying to build with it but im still open to suggestions.

 

[Jonner]

Sounds cool, take a look, out of all the tanks I have, the Erlkonigin is the easiest to refill, turn the top cap to "open", fill, turn to close, done. Best of luck with whatever you decide on.

 

[edyle]

so i really wanna get into rebuildables and im pretty sure im going to get the orchid. my question is, what mod/battery should i go to? I was considering an itaste mvp but i know you cant go below 1 ohm resistance with it and while i dont plan on building lower than that, i would like to have the option to do so. Suggestions?

1 ohm is just fine on a regulated mod.

If you want unrestricted ohms then you just use a 'mech' which will allow you to short out the battery and go BANG! and see some blood before you start feeling the pain.

The MVP is a good choice for somebody relatively new. It's basically a big eGo battery; the battery inside is not an 18650 replaceable battery.
There's also the istick which is a new mod out.

The choice of wire size you use is important; standard size is 28 gauge kanthal on rebuildables.


- oh - and the orchid has the same problem as the kayfun: the top of the chimney is not secured to the top of the tank, so you can't unscrew it upside down to refill like you would a bottom coil clearo.

 

[Millah]

You can get those same benefits from a ton of other tanks, that's not exclusive to the Orchid. One thing to keep in mind with the Orchid is that it is dual coil. Making it somewhat more tricky to build over something like the Erlkonigin like jonner is recommending (and I also recommend). Also, when building a dual coil setup, you take the resistance of each coil and you're going to end up at half that. So inevitably you're going to go into lower ohms using a dual coil setup. You also want both coils to be fairly consistent with each other, so they both heat up equally.

I'd recommend a Kayfun or an ErlKonigin just because they're single coil and much easier to build. The Erlk is much more tricky to wick, but produces better results. Kayfun is an incredibly reliable, very easy to build tank. Was my first rebuildable a year ago.