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After looking again the coil actually looks pretty clean, just the wick is dirty. I wonder if it was given a vodka wash even without taking a pod apart it would clean up the wick for longer life. Might be worth a try?? The mouth piece comes off it looks like so could drain from there for a wash? Reminds me of carto washing days! LOL just a thought
Why is that? Airflow control? You can totally close it off or have it wide open. One slot facing the fill cap is totally closed and 90° away is fully opened.
Internal design.
I can see how it could be done. Fill top half of chamber with same plastic, dome the underside and narrow the exhaust a bit. Reduce the intake air chamber to a narrow middle channel, so it focuses the airstream on the middle of the coil.
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Anybody using this with all VG? I'm still considering (your fault @moodsmaster - 30 ml per pod with my ADV, NET!?
), but haven't seen anyone yet using max/all VG.
), but haven't seen anyone yet using max/all VG.
I have one pod with 70% vg and another with 50/50 mix. No issues wicking. Not much of a help with the 100% vg question but that's the best I can offer...lol
Sounds like your opinions are pretty similar to mine after going through several pod systems. My biggest gripe with pretty much every pod system I've used is the fact that if you run into problems you're at the mercy of the company since there's really little or no way to adjust/rewick/rebuild a pod on your own. I guess it's a good business model and all, but I'm going to wait on spending any more money until someone decides to produce a proper rebuildable pod system.
It really does seem like the same problems come up over and over in many of these threads and other than pure greed, there's no reason that rebuildables can't be done. It's pretty obvious at this point that most of these companies want to make a quick buck and could care less about the consumer, even though this would alleviate many of the common issues that come up.
Maybe I'm just being thick, but..... Why go with a "pod" system if you want to rebuild? I've been in this game pretty much since the start.. From attempting to refill cartridges using Lipton pyramid tea bags as wicking material (yes, that was a thing) to the first Genesis hybrids, etc... I have plenty of rebuildable tanks, etc that I use pretty regularly. I also use some tanks with replacement coils (loving the fireluke mesh right now), but there are still times where I just want convenience.
Assuming they keep lasting as long as my first few have, I have no issue at all with the minimal cost of the replacement pods when I don't want to have to deal with rebuilding and want a satisfying vape that fits right in the fifth pocket of my jeans with no fear of spilling.
Will the Orion replace the balance of my hardware? Absolutely not. Does it work perfectly (so far) for a specific use case? Absolutely. Its by far the best "pod" system I've used to date.
Also worth mentioning that some pods (Juul as an example) aren't even intended to be refillable... This thing is as close to a perfect middle ground that I've seen. I'll be honest, I have absolutely no interest in rebuilding one, I have plenty of other gear for that.
No different than anything else, there's a price associated with convenience. And as long as these pods seem to be lasting me, that price is very small here...
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Assuming they keep lasting as long as my first few have, I have no issue at all with the minimal cost of the replacement pods when I don't want to have to deal with rebuilding and want a satisfying vape that fits right in the fifth pocket of my jeans with no fear of spilling.
Will the Orion replace the balance of my hardware? Absolutely not. Does it work perfectly (so far) for a specific use case? Absolutely. Its by far the best "pod" system I've used to date.
Also worth mentioning that some pods (Juul as an example) aren't even intended to be refillable... This thing is as close to a perfect middle ground that I've seen. I'll be honest, I have absolutely no interest in rebuilding one, I have plenty of other gear for that.
No different than anything else, there's a price associated with convenience. And as long as these pods seem to be lasting me, that price is very small here...
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I get your point, but- for me, I'd LOVE to have this as a rebuildable. Because:
1) size - just about impossible to get this size in anything, and I only use small mods & small lightweight tanks (pretty exclusively doggies right now. If you want DNA, you just can't get this small. I carried a pack of smokes around for 45 years and even that was too big. I have 0 interest in carrying something that approximates a brick in my pocket, no matter how great it vapes.
2) quality with size - LV is well known for quality products, unlike other choices in small mods or pods.
3) DNA Go with replay - I've wanted to try this, but won't be buying anything the size of say, a Therion, or even a Mirage. I use DNA75 in a SBody Macro (and even smaller internal battery mods, and won't increase in size even to an HCigar.
4) Flexiblility - so you don't have infinite choices in wattage with this, but with a rebuildable, you could really tweak your vape with different coil materials & ohmage- even wicking material for someone like me that would like to vape all VG.
Anyway, your point is partly valid, but sounds pretty dismissive based on the assumption that rebuilding can only be about cost. While it's not all about cost for me (but probably is for many), if they made an accessible area to replace the coil and rewick, I'd have already bought more than one of these. It just sounds like you're assuming the only reason people would want to rebuild is relating to cost, and for me, it isn't.
I hear you, and certainly not trying to be dismissive, just one guy's opinion.
I guess here's the thing. Pods (as an overarching statement) are about ease of use, and convenience. By ease of use, in part, I also mean safety. It's pretty apparent that this is targeted as a mass marked device. You don't have a huge amount of options for coils anyway given the small space you have to work with, and there's no way to take an ohm reading easily if you build your own coil with this DNA board. You can see ohms in Escribe, but the software is really set to look for specific ohm ranges to decide which mode to put the board in.
We'd need to know more to understand how it would handle a coil outside of those expected ranges which help it determine if its a .25 or .5...
Now, I'm also not trying to imply you need a screen and to meter every coil (did it in mechanical genny hybrids for years without ever metering), BUT this board is programmed to expect to see certain things...
I ABSOLUTELY see a market for a small pocket friendly rebuildable, I just wouldn't expect that they'd release a rebuildable pod for the Orion.
If rebuilding were a requirement for me, I'd pass on this one as opposed to looking for a way to "hack it". Just more hassle than it's worth for various reasons.
When someone comes out with a rebuildable of this quality and size, sign me up, I'd get one too. Though I'd probably still keep this for the convenience in the right situations.
Hope that helps clarify what I was trying to get at...
I guess here's the thing. Pods (as an overarching statement) are about ease of use, and convenience. By ease of use, in part, I also mean safety. It's pretty apparent that this is targeted as a mass marked device. You don't have a huge amount of options for coils anyway given the small space you have to work with, and there's no way to take an ohm reading easily if you build your own coil with this DNA board. You can see ohms in Escribe, but the software is really set to look for specific ohm ranges to decide which mode to put the board in.
We'd need to know more to understand how it would handle a coil outside of those expected ranges which help it determine if its a .25 or .5...
Now, I'm also not trying to imply you need a screen and to meter every coil (did it in mechanical genny hybrids for years without ever metering), BUT this board is programmed to expect to see certain things...
I ABSOLUTELY see a market for a small pocket friendly rebuildable, I just wouldn't expect that they'd release a rebuildable pod for the Orion.
If rebuilding were a requirement for me, I'd pass on this one as opposed to looking for a way to "hack it". Just more hassle than it's worth for various reasons.
When someone comes out with a rebuildable of this quality and size, sign me up, I'd get one too. Though I'd probably still keep this for the convenience in the right situations.
Hope that helps clarify what I was trying to get at...
You can change the ranges within EScribe.
The Joyetech eGrip VT is slightly larger than the Orion (and twice as heavy) and you could have purchased a RBA for it (I think, does the eGrip RBA Base fit it?). Why did nobody jump on it if you are looking for a rebuildable pod? I planned on rebuilding mine until I saw how tiny the RBA was. Then I decided that my time is far more valuable then to spend hours on such a project.
Yep, the problem is knowing the targets to change it to.
This is an odd middle ground for building. Its not like mechanical where you don't necessarily have to be precise as long as you stay within safe limits, and not like true electronic where you can check the build before firing.
Not saying it couldn't be done, but there isn't a simple way to meter a coil without going into EScribe.
Either way, this is all probably going down an unnecessary rabbit hole anyway given these are clearly not made to be rebuilt.
This is an odd middle ground for building. Its not like mechanical where you don't necessarily have to be precise as long as you stay within safe limits, and not like true electronic where you can check the build before firing.
Not saying it couldn't be done, but there isn't a simple way to meter a coil without going into EScribe.
Either way, this is all probably going down an unnecessary rabbit hole anyway given these are clearly not made to be rebuilt.
The first .5 Ω Orion pod is still working great for me and so is the Orion mod on day 8- vapes great.
I bought this for convenience- I have enough rebuildable tanks, RTAs and RDTAs to use when I am home. When I have many outside duties I had been using my Nebox for 2 1/2 years and that does come with a tiny RBA too, but I only use the SSOCC coils and that held 10ml of liquid, but that is so much bigger and heavier than the Orion.
Back 4 years ago when I was still smoking -a pack of cigs in NY were $10.00 a pack, I smoked a 1/2 a pack a day so $5.00 per day spent on smoking cigarettes, that I threw in the garbage can . This Orion Pod cost me about $4.00 and has lasted 8 days and still going strong and is expected to last at least 14 days- expensive?
These pods are clearly much cheaper than cigarettes to me- but I understand for longevity to be able to rebuild the pods- if we can no longer buy the pods the Orion will be a paperweight.
I bought this for convenience- I have enough rebuildable tanks, RTAs and RDTAs to use when I am home. When I have many outside duties I had been using my Nebox for 2 1/2 years and that does come with a tiny RBA too, but I only use the SSOCC coils and that held 10ml of liquid, but that is so much bigger and heavier than the Orion.
Back 4 years ago when I was still smoking -a pack of cigs in NY were $10.00 a pack, I smoked a 1/2 a pack a day so $5.00 per day spent on smoking cigarettes, that I threw in the garbage can . This Orion Pod cost me about $4.00 and has lasted 8 days and still going strong and is expected to last at least 14 days- expensive?
These pods are clearly much cheaper than cigarettes to me- but I understand for longevity to be able to rebuild the pods- if we can no longer buy the pods the Orion will be a paperweight.
Thank you. I'm wondering about this white glue for the coil. It's a little bit like chewing gum. Does anyone know, what it is?
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