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brewbear

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Well, add me to the list with wicking issues. I finally found a pod that doesn't leak and worked really well over the past day or so until the first refill and now it appears that there is no wicking going on at all until I remove the cap, take a few hits, and replace the screw. It works for maybe the first 6 puffs or so, then I'm back to square one again.

I'm beginning to think that the orion just isn't for me. For something that's considered a "premium" product there are too many problems to justify continuing to spend so much for pods. I'll probably use up the remainder of my pods and then move on to something better when they're gone.

Okay, rant over. Sorry to sound so negative but I figured I'd offer my alternative viewpoint for someone who's on the fence about picking one up.
I truly am sorry to read about all the problems you've encountered.
I use 50/50 juice and haven't had a single problem (runs to knock wood) in fact I bought two more kits. I'm still using my first pod (started use 9/14/18, average of three refills a day). I really hope you will get it to work for you.:party:
 

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Mine has just arrived [emoji3]

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Looks like it'll be heading straight back were it came from....it's autofiring and the bottom button doesn't appear to be doing what it's supposed to.
Anybody had similar issues? [emoji19]

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SnapDragon NY

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Looks like it'll be heading straight back were it came from....it's autofiring and the bottom button doesn't appear to be doing what it's supposed to.
Anybody had similar issues? [emoji19]

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No- mine is working fine.
Sorry to hear yours is not!
 

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Man some of these posts are making me glad I held off. (It wasn't really virtue or anything I am just poor, LOL).

It seems pod mods are pod mods, regardless of who makes them and I have no doubt at all that early kinks will be ironed out, but there are reasons besides cost that I don't use pod mods. It seems that getting them operating consistently is just... hard. I mean, I have yet to encounter a pod that doesn't have similar complaints from at least several users. It's kind of what makes me query why pod mods are considered "easy" to vape. I mean, give me a wattage adjustment ANYTIME over fixed wattage, finding the right coil, the right juice, leaking, pods burning out early.

Okay, so you press a button or just inhale, etc., but BEFORE all that you have to deal with the issues above, and they are far more complicated (just my opinion as always) than merely getting to the right wattage and etc. IDK. Hope things get easier for everyone.

Anna
 

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Got one for the wife. She is using and expected equal to or better than the Pico 10W & T3. At present she is running a 65/35 PG/VG using the .5 pod (since the beginning) @ the Low or 8 watt setting. Only escribe change was changing the Boost settings to "0" for the low/medium/high. No "replay" usage yet. I've refilled about 4 times so far (she uses in rotation). She has not mentioned any issues with the Orion yet in tasting burnt or flavor being off. I've changed the T3 head twice (two units) because she stated they tasted burnt, so she knows what doesn't taste right. Oh and she likes the Gold/Abalone.
 

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I don't know stols001. Out of all of the pod systems I have tried, the Orion is still the Lamborghini of pod systems out there. When I need something small and light and can do both MTL and DTL (I vape both ways), this is what I grab.

The problem I have had with the four Orion pods that burnt was just after refilling. You have no vacuum in the pod (think bottom coil tank system) and with top fill, the wick can easily become over saturated. Normally you get flooding and gurgling in most attys when this happens. But with the Orion pods, it is hard to tell when this happens since it doesn't really gurgle. But when you fill, even the Orion can get over saturated.

What I think is happening in my case anyway, Replay sees the temperature is too low (since it is flooded and you can't tell easily) and it cranks up the power (up to 40 watts) to get the temperature up to vaping temperatures. In big mods and attys, is no problem because the wicking and the coils can take this. But in the tiny coil in the Orion, the center of the tiny coil could get much hotter than the rest of the coil and burn the wicking. And with Replay enabled, it is hard to tell if the coil is over saturated or not. Since it vapes the same as it was not.

So what I have been doing is turning Replay off after refilling. And most of the time I have the wattage set at 8 watts (with the 0.5Ω). And like the first dozen hits after refilling, the vapor temperature is very low. But once this passes, it starts vaping normally. Now I'll kick Replay back on. And it is too soon to tell, but I think the pods will last a very long time this way.

In EScribe, you can set how many amps the board can use. If I set this at a different lower value, I believe I could avoid turning off Replay briefly after refilling and the pods will last tons longer. Time will tell though since I just started this practice. :)
 
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I agree it's the Lamborghini of pods, but a pod is still a pod. They just seem like the kind of thing that would frustrate me no end, and honestly I do think a fair share of pod complaints may be user error, certainly.

I do not believe in fixed wattage providing a good vape, ever, and I won a fixed wattage setup that I was able to make SERVICEABLE just because I really wanted to try and like, honestly, it was hours of trial, error, spitback, swapping out driptips and like, adjusting air, and even then it was merely decent.

I mean... If that had been the first vape I had tried, I would have given up vaping in disgust.

I don't comprehend the appeal of the fixed wattage thing, and if I got flooding or leaking every time I changed a drop in coil, I would be Very Angry Indeed because that simply does not need to happen EVER in my opinion.

You don't need to apologize for liking it and I'm glad you do. But, LV has proven to me that even the BEST pod is subject to Pod Issues is all.

My "failure to understand" is "why are pods recommended to new vapers for ease and simplicity when they are neither. But that's fine and I don't NEED to understand, nor do I need to stop anyone from pursuing one or recommending one. I do not get it, the "ease of merely pushing a button," doesn't seem to trump the annoyance of fixed wattage, leaky or flooded pods, the expense, wicking issues, spitting issues finding the right resistance pod etc. etc.

It's kind of like "Here's this gigantic pool now jump in it's really easy you just push a button" but neglecting to teach the person how to swim.

I just don't think pods are easy and if I want a Hard Moment I'mma gonna coil an RTA and maybe I will succeed on my third coil but that really IS cheap.

Anna
 

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I don't think this is a beginner system neither. It's like learning to drive with a Lamborghini ;)

For starters I would recommend the spryte, because it has no leaking, no setting is quite cheap and gives a great flavour.
For me it's perfect, because you can set it up like a big box mod, have nearly the same experince and you don't have to carry a big box around.
The one problem is, that it's not rebuildable for now. If it were i would sell my big Mods for sure.
 

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I think of the Orion as the mod and the pod is just another tank, and thru the years I have found tanks to be a bit fiddly. I have gone tru the carto tank phase to rebuilables. Pods are snap in tanks and they all have a certain fiddle factor. That's how I see it anyway :)
 

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I do not believe in fixed wattage providing a good vape, ever, and I won a fixed wattage setup that I was able to make SERVICEABLE just because I really wanted to try and like, honestly, it was hours of trial, error, spitback, swapping out driptips and like, adjusting air, and even then it was merely decent.

I mean... If that had been the first vape I had tried, I would have given up vaping in disgust.

I don't comprehend the appeal of the fixed wattage thing, and if I got flooding or leaking every time I changed a drop in coil, I would be Very Angry Indeed because that simply does not need to happen EVER in my opinion.
I don't care much for wattage only vaping either. As it can't keep it at the perfect temperature range without lots of help. But the Orion isn't just a wattage device. It has Replay. Replay is TC made simple. Find that perfect hit and lock it in. Now Replay will make sure every hit afterwards is the same as that last one.

The only flaw I see with the Orion with Replay is that if it sees the temperature too low, it will crank up the watts higher than what you have it set at if the coil is flooded or the coil is freezing cold like being out in the winter time. Now the DNA Go board will use up to 40 watts to warm it up to vaping temperature to give you that perfect hit.

Well that is great, but that tiny pod coil can't take that kind of wattage as the wicking will burn. It needs to be limited to the highest wattage that coil can handle without burning the wicking. So who's fault is that, Lost Vape's or Evolv's? Yeah well thanks to EScribe software, this can be adjusted.

My "failure to understand" is "why are pods recommended to new vapers for ease and simplicity when they are neither. But that's fine and I don't NEED to understand, nor do I need to stop anyone from pursuing one or recommending one. I do not get it, the "ease of merely pushing a button," doesn't seem to trump the annoyance of fixed wattage, leaky or flooded pods, the expense, wicking issues, spitting issues finding the right resistance pod etc. etc.
I would agree concerning you and me. But if it gets others from smoking, I am all for it.

I just don't think pods are easy and if I want a Hard Moment I'mma gonna coil an RTA and maybe I will succeed on my third coil but that really IS cheap.
Cheap yes. But most smokers ain't going to bother with coiling, wicking, reassembly, and juicing. They are just to grab a smoke out of a pack and just light it up. :(
 

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I opened one pod without breaking it. I can post photos, if you want. For now I dont think a rewick is easy. The whole thing is full of glue on the bottom...
Yeah, I have seen one pic of the bottom off. That isn't a problem (well okay, somewhat of a problem, but not the big one). The problem starts when putting it back together again without leaks. :(
 

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Man some of these posts are making me glad I held off. (It wasn't really virtue or anything I am just poor, LOL).

It seems pod mods are pod mods, regardless of who makes them and I have no doubt at all that early kinks will be ironed out, but there are reasons besides cost that I don't use pod mods. It seems that getting them operating consistently is just... hard. I mean, I have yet to encounter a pod that doesn't have similar complaints from at least several users. It's kind of what makes me query why pod mods are considered "easy" to vape. I mean, give me a wattage adjustment ANYTIME over fixed wattage, finding the right coil, the right juice, leaking, pods burning out early.

Okay, so you press a button or just inhale, etc., but BEFORE all that you have to deal with the issues above, and they are far more complicated (just my opinion as always) than merely getting to the right wattage and etc. IDK. Hope things get easier for everyone.

Anna

I dunno- I love my Lost Vape Orion, haven't experienced any problems yet. When you are a person who has to leave the house every day for a job or responsibilities outside the house, having something like this is perfect. I can't drag around my bigger mods with glass tanks, just not convenient for me and super messy let alone glass that can break. That to me is the advantage of pods, something that doesn't leak, that I can stick in my pocket, convenient and stealth vape.
 
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