Lots of bad news about vaping recently?!?

[WillyZee]

BT, BP and BG are losing million$ daily ... they are pulling out all the stops

 

[daviedog]

Most vapers are not sub-ohmers.Most of us are using regular EGO type batteries and or basic VV/VW with standard tanks.
Just because we don't hang around the sample bar all day doesn't mean we're not there. I believe vaping for the average
vaper is incredibly safe and any harm if at all would be more of an irritation as opposed to a actual debilitating illness.
When something like vaping is as safe as drinking municipal tap water you've got to ask yourself just what is it we are afraid
of?

Regards
Mike

Vaping is too good to be True. Easy to believe there is lethal hook hidden somewhere to be 'discovered' 10 years down the line..

 

[daviedog]

Unfortunately, the mass media of today has become the Pravda of the past.

I get more truth from english Pravda than US mass media..

 

[Eitje]

There is nothing that says vaping "isn't healthy" for us. Absolutely NO proof, as of yet, that says vaping is unhealthy for us. I have read studies that showed the exact opposite, actually. Propylene Glycol even reduces risk of infection. It is pumped thru the AC systems in hospitals to reduce airborn bacteria and mold. It is used to deliver asthma medication to newborn babies. I believe vaping IS safe. & I KNOW that vaping is safer-than cigarettes. MANY studies have proven this FACT! Each and EVERY chemical that's been found in vapor, has also been found in cigarettes, at HIGHER volume. So, if you were smoking the chemicals we're inhaling via vapor, at HIGHER volumes, I suggest you continue vaping.

Well there is more than sufficient properly accredited research on how nicotine effects your blood vessels for example.
Since most of us don't vape 0% its pretty much certain it negatively impacts your health in that way.
A bit of logical reasoning, you are in the end inhaling several heated chemicals, also might help you to conclude that not doing so in the long run would proof beneficial to your health.

I'm not saying vaping kills you for sure but claiming the opposite, that its harmless, seems besides the truth as well.

 

[nancybout]

Why does anyone care what other people do?? This world is insane
If I Vape,why does any one who doesn't give a .... about MY life feel the need to lecture me? Just a point I never understood lok


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[Eitje]

Why does anyone care what other people do?? This world is insane
If I Vape,why does any one who doesn't give a .... about MY life feel the need to lecture me? Just a point I never understood lok


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Now thats something I wholeheartedly subscribe too. Bloody annoying all those busybodies trying to tell you how you should live your life.
Something our governments also seem to spend way too much time on in recent years.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Now thats something I wholeheartedly subscribe too. Bloody annoying all those busybodies trying to tell you how you should live your life.
Something our governments also seem to spend way too much time on in recent years.

And religions too. Lot's of the anti vaping rhetoric is heard in churches....
Not sure that religions would exist if they did not have things to be against.

 

[CasketWeaver]

BT, BP and BG are losing million$ daily ... they are pulling out all the stops

Yes, because without BT and BP... guess what? BG loses it's financial backing. Now if I were one to gamble (which I happen to be) as I've stated in the past... "You can mess with my life and my head... but don't dare touch my damn paycheck!"... I'm pretty sure this holds true even to tobacco, pharma, and government. Because if you look at it from my standpoint - how many of our elected officials are taking big bucks from tobacco and pharma? Quite a few. And you know (or should know) that those same officials are hiring people and the money trail goes from tobacco / pharma -> elected officials -> hired agents -> ???. And the buck stops there (no pun intended). Do you honestly think that these "researchers" are paying top dollar (like the consumer) is for these juices, batteries, atty's, etc? I highly doubt it... so where's the rest of this money going? Don't answer that - it's a rhetorical question.

 

[WillyZee]

This is why I have become a total Vapocalypse vaper ... for well over a year, I have been prepared for a total ban on everything ... where nothing is available tomorrow.

Hope for the best ... prepare for the worst.


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[JJOOHHNN]

Some vapors get so butthurt when you call it smoke.....smoke, vapor, whatever, point is our lungs are not build for inhaling it, don't get me wrong I love vaping at crazy watts, but I'm not delusional enough to think it's healthy

There are four things that really really bother me about this place. This is one of them, words have meaning and to think they don't really bothers me.

Smoke and vapor are not the same thing. A fire is a chemical reaction, the chemistry of the burned items is changing and smoke is part of it. Vapor may or may not have a chemical reaction included but they are not the same thing.

Vapor is changing the state of matter but it may or may not change the composition. Water can be a solid, a liquid, or a gas. Vapor is usually used to describe a gas that can be readily condensed back to a liquid in the conditions it is being exposed to.

 

[crxess]

Here you go. I'm sure you'll get the drift

Hmmm.......... So copy Data from original URL and past there, then link to pasted data instead?

Maybe this page would explain more clearly


*** Edit - Wow, they will not let you post the FAQ page

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Hmmm.......... So copy Data from original URL and past there, then link to pasted data instead?

Maybe this page would explain more clearly



*** Edit - Wow, they will not let you post the FAQ page

You used the wrong brand of paste? Try Elmers?

 

[YoursTruli]

And religions too. Lot's of the anti vaping rhetoric is heard in churches....
Not sure that religions would exist if they did not have things to be against.

I am really unsure on how your attacks on religion and people of faith have anything to do with vaping, period. You keep doing this and it really has no place or purpose here or in any of the discussions you insert this personal bias.

and just FYI I am a person of faith and at no time have I ever heard a word against vaping at my church, not even from my pastor when we are just talking and vaping together.

 

[herb]

Well there is more than sufficient properly accredited research on how nicotine effects your blood vessels for example.
Since most of us don't vape 0% its pretty much certain it negatively impacts your health in that way.
A bit of logical reasoning, you are in the end inhaling several heated chemicals, also might help you to conclude that not doing so in the long run would proof beneficial to your health.

I'm not saying vaping kills you for sure but claiming the opposite, that its harmless, seems besides the truth as well.

Thats "basic common sense" thinking to most people , some will argue everything and anything and i was debating people recently who said they are not convinced smoking is bad , no joke .

At this time there is no good reliable data available about how inhaling certain chemicals on high wattage devices will effect ones health over time .

Of course how much juice you vape and if the juice is free of diketones or not will all play a role. Most people have only recently started vaping super high wattage and consuming much more juice so it will be quite awhile before any reliable studies come out.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I am really unsure on how your attacks on religion and people of faith have anything to do with vaping, period. You keep doing this and it really has no place or purpose here or in any of the discussions you insert this personal bias.

and just FYI I am a person of faith and at no time have I ever heard a word against vaping at my church, not even from my pastor when we are just talking and vaping together.

You are fortunate. Your experience does not properly represent religion at large.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

On religion and vaping this article is hillarious. I am not sure if it is intended to be or not though.
VAPING HOLES - DIABOLICAL GAY CIGARETTES - The Landover Baptist Church Forum

 

[MorpheusPA]

On religion and vaping this article is hillarious. I am not sure if it is intended to be or not though.
VAPING HOLES - DIABOLICAL GAY CIGARETTES - The Landover Baptist Church Forum

Landover Baptist is a parody site.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Landover Baptist is a parody site.

Thanks. It is sometimes hard to tell. But it appeared that way to me.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

last statement on this thread by me.
imho if we ignore that some sects of religion are an enemy of vaping we are doing ourselves as vapers a big disservice.

 

[crxess]

We have all these pro vaping causes that take in money and support...where are their articles. They should be putting them out there on a regular basis..but where are they? We can complain about ALL THE BAD anti vaping articles out there but at some point we have to at least say they are consistent is getting their message out unlike the pro vaping causes out there.

CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association

American Vaping Association | Vaping to Quit Smoking American Vaping Association

Home INFO link

Investing in our Future

Homepage - SFATA | Smoke Free Alternatives Trade Association

NOT Blowing Smoke

The Vaping Militia

The truth is out there and being published every day. Now, the Main stream Media has no interest in Truth or Lie, only Sales and Hype.
Truth is - Opponents to Vaping have Far more Dollars to Carry their word to the public and have had Decades to refine their tactics.

The Lie is accepting News as Fact of Truth.

As to where is the money going - A lot of it is Lobbying on our behalf, some of it is Smaller publication as Budget allows.
Most of these people are working on our behalf as Unpaid Volunteers.

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