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I've been up early the past few days in a row. :D I hope the new bank works out to your advantage. My last one screwed me over pretty bad! :grr:



Good Morning, Tami. :wub:

You should like the Vamo V5. It's a nice mod with a 5 Amp limit and what I think are very nice features. I really like that 3-button system. You can also use stacked 18350s in it for better accuracy on the Voltage Regulation. :D They last about the same time as an 18650 (or did for me), but the output you select (VV or WV) will be regulated better. I had a V3 that had to be returned. :( But I like the design and features.

Are you getting Stainless Steel?

Where are you getting it from?

I can't wait. LOL I have been a die hard ego user, and have long demanded that all I needed was the ego because it kept me from smoking. Now with all the fun I'm having building little coils---it's time to move on up! :) haha.

I got the black chrome (I know, it wears off, but I couldn't help myself, it looks wicked, haha). I got it from a vendor with good rep on ebay. Sure did ship it fast that's for sure.

I do have my eye on a mech that is stunning, a Chi-You from fasttech (yeah the wait, but I don't need it in a hurry).


OH NO, I just noticed that my pl key is doing weird crap. What's with that? I don't know why the l key added the p like that. Now it seems to be working again. That was weird. Anyway, it was a chi-you clone... whew the l is working again.
 

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I don't know what the problem is; the economy or what, but it seems like banks are playing games now to cheat people out of money. They changed things on me without notice and that caused major problems. I reported them to every agency available to man, including those that are supposed to be actually regulating this bank, and none of them seemed to really care. All they did was file my complaint and forward it to the bank, but whatever the bank decided was the decision... didn't matter if I found it a satisfactory answer/solution, or what. All the bank really said what that they had the right to do it. After 3 rounds or back and forth, I gave up. Screw 'em all!!!

Bottom line is, none of them really do care at all about anything but getting your money. Sad. Sorry you are having such a hassle.
 

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    I don't know what the problem is; the economy or what, but it seems like banks are playing games now to cheat people out of money. They changed things on me without notice and that caused major problems. I reported them to every agency available to man, including those that are supposed to be actually regulating this bank, and none of them seemed to really care. All they did was file my complaint and forward it to the bank, but whatever the bank decided was the decision... didn't matter if I found it a satisfactory answer/solution, or what. All the bank really said what that they had the right to do it. After 3 rounds or back and forth, I gave up. Screw 'em all!!!

    We're still disputing the charge but basically our bank threatened to charge US with fraud if we tried to close our account so ...

    Kind of PO'ed me and I thought, huh? That's the last thing you'll do with our money :grr:
     

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    I do have my eye on a mech that is stunning, a Chi-You from fasttech (yeah the wait, but I don't need it in a hurry).
    I have one of those Chi-you's from FT, awesome little mech :)

    Oh, a question on the "stacking" too... I've seen videos (pbusardo and others) that recommended the same thing about the 18350 stacking, but I've seen posts on here that stacking is a bad idea. What's with that? Is it dangerous or something?
    Eeee! No stacking please :(
    Not recommended at all! (IMHO)
     
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    I have one of those Chi-you's from FT, awesome little mech :)

    Great to hear! I'm waiting on a client, when I get some money, that's where it's going next. LOL My goodness, from only egos to a vamo and a chi-you cl all in one week, lmao. fun fun fun. I have always loved vapemail, but for a long time it was mostly just juice and then diy juice supplies. Getting new hardware is tons of fun.
     

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    Great to hear! I'm waiting on a client, when I get some money, that's where it's going next. LOL My goodness, from only egos to a vamo and a chi-you cl all in one week, lmao. fun fun fun. I have always loved vapemail, but for a long time it was mostly just juice and then diy juice supplies. Getting new hardware is tons of fun.

    It sure is, and can get expensive too!!

    Thank goodness I've stopped with the hardware since I got my ProVari's :)
     

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    Oh, a question on the "stacking" too... I've seen videos (pbusardo and others) that recommended the same thing about the 18350 stacking, but I've seen posts on here that stacking is a bad idea. What's with that? Is it dangerous or something?

    I even saw a post on Discount Vapers saying the warranty would be voided over stacking 18350s in a Vamo (don't remember which version). I won't try to say that I understand everything about everything, but it seems to me that if a Mod is designed to handle stacked 18350s, then there should be nothing wrong with doing it. If the manufacturer says you can use them, then why should a vendor (or Joe Public) say not to? I use stacked 18350s in a Sigelei ZMax regularly and have never had a problem from it. I used them in the Vamo V3 I had, too.

    I guess you could research it to see if anyone ever actually had a problem from doing it, but I haven't heard of it yet. However, I have not researched it for problems. I'll say this, too. Just because you find one or two posts about actual problems, that does not an epidemic make. If it were me researching it, I'd want to know just how wide spread the problem actually is.
     

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    For any interested, the GotVapes crew is back and a new round is posted.

    I saw that. :) I loaded the page this morning out of curiosity and checked back periodically. I was there right after it started and made entry #2. :D

    We're still disputing the charge but basically our bank threatened to charge US with fraud if we tried to close our account so ...

    Kind of PO'ed me and I thought, huh? That's the last thing you'll do with our money :grr:

    Was your account hacked, or an unauthorized charge made by this China person?


    I have one of those Chi-you's from FT, awesome little mech :)


    Eeee! No stacking please :(
    Not recommended at all!

    Not recommended in a Mech, though some have a Switch that can handle it, but what's the problem with doing it in a VV/VW Mod that is designed for it?
     
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    I even saw a post on Discount Vapers saying the warranty would be voided over stacking 18350s in a Vamo (don't remember which version). I won't try to say that I understand everything about everything, but it seems to me that if a Mod is designed to handle stacked 18350s, then there should be nothing wrong with doing it. If the manufacturer says you can use them, then why should a vendor (or Joe Public) say not to? I use stacked 18350s in a Sigelei ZMax regularly and have never had a problem from it. I used them in the Vamo V3 I had, too.

    I guess you could research it to see if anyone ever actually had a problem from doing it, but I haven't heard of it yet. However, I have not researched it for problems. I'll say this, too. Just because you find one or two posts about actual problems, that does not an epidemic make. If it were me researching it, I'd want to know just how wide spread the problem actually is.


    I did a quick search on here, and it seems to be a matter of when you stack you have to keep track of those batteries and ALWAYS use them together. Once you have stacked two batteries you can't use them individually, you have to charge them together, you need to place them in the right places when using them (I can't remember now if it said you have to alternate which one is on top or not) and you always have to put them in - in the proper direction... the only thing that sucks about all of that is the never using them as separate pieces if you want a short version to go out. I am going to have to think on that, or just wait until I get more batteries.

    Either way, it's a matter of following the rules when stacking. I searched because I was having a hard time understanding what the problem was. I mean flashlights and other battery operated things have used the 'stack'em' method of battery installation for decades. I guess the big thing there is they arne't usually rechargeable batteries. But then again, even with regular rechargeable batteries that came about in the past few years, I don't recall it being an issue.
     

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    I did a quick search on here, and it seems to be a matter of when you stack you have to keep track of those batteries and ALWAYS use them together. Once you have stacked two batteries you can't use them individually, you have to charge them together, you need to place them in the right places when using them (I can't remember now if it said you have to alternate which one is on top or not) and you always have to put them in - in the proper direction... the only thing that sucks about all of that is the never using them as separate pieces if you want a short version to go out. I am going to have to think on that, or just wait until I get more batteries.

    Either way, it's a matter of following the rules when stacking. I searched because I was having a hard time understanding what the problem was. I mean flashlights and other battery operated things have used the 'stack'em' method of battery installation for decades. I guess the big thing there is they arne't usually rechargeable batteries. But then again, even with regular rechargeable batteries that came about in the past few years, I don't recall it being an issue.

    Right!

    They should be used as mated pairs. I mark my pairs as 1A and 1B, 2A and 2B, etc.

    They could be charged together at the same time, but that isn't really necessary. I use a pila IBC charger. It has two charging bays. What's most important is that they both be charged to the same level, and at about the same time. If you only have a single bay charger, then charge them separately and let the charger take care of the charge level. Charge one and then the other right after that.

    Of course you have to insert them properly, as with any battery. If you insert them with the positives touching (or the negatives touching), that does not create a short or any other problem, as no difference in potential is created between them. You can test this with any two batteries and a voltmeter. The charges only add together if they are inserted with a (+) touching a (-), and with a (+) on one end and a (-) on the other end.

    (+)=====(-)(+)=====(-) .. 4.2V + 4.2V = 8.4V when fully charged.
    ....Battery 1 .....Battery 2

    If you insert them backwards (negative first), the Mod's protection should handle that and not come On, but it's best to be careful and not insert them backwards.

    If you want to use the Vamo in 18350 mode in town, then get another set (so you have a spare in town) to be kept for that purpose, and mark them appropriately (or don't mark them at all and let the paired markings differentiate). It all comes down to adequately marking the batteries so you know what is what.

    It does not matter if you always insert 1A first and then 1B, because they both have the same charge level, and have always been used together since they were new, so they always have the same wear levels on them. What matters is that you always use a mated pair from the time they are new. Marking them helps keep track!

    Since they are stacked, they will also discharge at the same rate.
     
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    If you were to stack two batteries that had been used separately, they could have different wear levels (which effects the internal resistance, how well the charge, how well they discharge, and how much longer they will last), and therefore, they would not discharge at the same rate when stacked.
     

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    Right!

    They should be used a mated pairs. I mark my pairs as 1A and 1B, 2A and 2B, etc.

    They could be charged together at the same time, but that isn't really necessary. I use a pila IBC charger. It has two charging bays. What's most important is that they both be charged to the same level, and at about the same time. If you only have a single bay charger, then charge them separately and let the charger take care of the charge level. Charge one and then the other right after that.

    Of course you have to insert them properly, as with any battery. If you insert them with the positives touching (or the negatives touching), that does not create a short or any other problem, as no difference in potential is created between them. You can test this with any two batteries and a voltmeter. The charges only add together if they are inserted with a (+) touching a (-), and with a (+) on one end and a (-) on the other end.

    (+)=====(-)(+)=====(-) .. 4.2V + 4.2V = 8.4V when fully charged.
    ....Battery 1 .....Battery 2

    If you insert them backwards, the Mod's protection should handle that and not come On, but it's best to be careful and not insert them backwards.

    If you want to use the Vamo in 18350 mode in town, then get another set (so you have a spare in town) to be kept for that purpose, and mark them appropriately (or don't mark them at all and let the paired markings differentiate). It all comes down to adequately marking the batteries so you know what is what.

    It does not matter if you always insert 1A first and then 1B, because they both have the same charge level, and have always been used together since they were new, so they always have the same wear levels on them. What matters is that you always use a mated pair from the time they are new. Marking them helps keep track!

    Since they are stacked, they will also discharge at the same rate.

    Thanks for that. I may have to get a pair of 350s then for mating and using stacked. I have heard the power is much more consistant and better when used that way with the vamo (all versions).
     

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    Was your account hacked, or an unauthorized charge made by this China person?
    Both I guess :unsure:

    Not recommended in a Mech, though some have a Switch that can handle it, but what's the problem with doing it in a VV/VW Mod that is designed for it?
    :oops: Apparently nothing :unsure:
     

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    I don't know what the problem is; the economy or what, but it seems like banks are playing games now to cheat people out of money. They changed things on me without notice and that caused major problems. I reported them to every agency available to man, including those that are supposed to be actually regulating this bank, and none of them seemed to really care. All they did was file my complaint and forward it to the bank, but whatever the bank decided was the decision... didn't matter if I found it a satisfactory answer/solution, or what. All the bank really said what that they had the right to do it. After 3 rounds or back and forth, I gave up. Screw 'em all!!!

    This is happening all over...including the Web. Screw what is right and do what they want. :grr: Sort of makes you fell like you should go Heil Hitler. :ohmy:

    On a happier note: GOOD MORNING BEACH! :)
     

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    Thanks for that. I may have to get a pair of 350s then for mating and using stacked. I have heard the power is much more consistant and better when used that way with the vamo (all versions).

    I edited. Read it again to see if anything I changed makes a difference, or makes it easier to understand.

    Both I guess :unsure:


    :oops: Apparently nothing :unsure:

    Sorry you got hacked, or whatever. A bank is supposed to reverse those charges when you file a dispute! Was this a credit card?


    As to the stacked batteries, I know that some recommend against it, but if you follow some guidelines, I think it's safe. But that's me. If someone isn't comfortable doing it, then they shouldn't. :)
     

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    Both I guess :unsure:


    :oops: Apparently nothing :unsure:


    No, you had reason to say what you did... there are times it is a bad idea, and I think, in general it is better to advise against it and be safe than suggest someone who doesn't know the whole story about what is necessary to do it get hurt or damage their equipment. You're a sweetie, D.
     
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