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Lounging By The Beach - Part 8

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I will try to share a picture or two.....last time I did that, I sent them to another poster via email, and he posted them for me. Hubs knows how to send pics via email so we might go that route. I have jj's email address..maybe she would do it......:)

Morning, VG....lots of paperwork hopefully means lots of income. :)

:confused: I have not fired up my new Aspire mini with the BVC's yet....seems there is some question about the safety of the BVCs....some tests are showing that the wicking material is melting and turning to dust...causing concern about it getting into our lungs. :ohmy::( So I have $40 worth of stuff sitting here waiting for more info. :cry:

I could send you my email address and do it, too.

This paperwork is for a program qualification.

On the BVCs, that should only be a "potential" problem, generally only happening if the tank runs totally empty and the coil burns red hot. Please check the notices and articles to see what the real concern is. But there are also the original BDCs that will fit and work, and they have a proven track record. That is, if you don't mind a dual coil.

Yes, Dale. I am really concerned....tho, none of us really know much about the safety of any of our atty's. I just read a whole thread, and some internet posts....people are going back and forth on the safety of ceramic wicks, and of course, there was just enough info to confuse the heck of of me. Seems no one knows.....the video of the melted filler was scary.

Then post the links and I'll check it out for you. I was using ceramics for a while, until I couldn't get them anymore. The only real concern is in the purity of the ceramics... if it is only ceramic or if there are metals mixed in (from what I know so far). The ceramics used to make the wicks I was using had metal in them, but there's a process where they get soaked in lemon juice for a while which cures that (eats it out or something), leaving a pure ceramic. On the other hand, some people are alarmists, not really knowing what they are talking about.
 
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I will try to share a picture or two.....last time I did that, I sent them to another poster via email, and he posted them for me. Hubs knows how to send pics via email so we might go that route. I have jj's email address..maybe she would do it......:)

Morning, VG....lots of paperwork hopefully means lots of income. :)

:confused: I have not fired up my new Aspire mini with the BVC's yet....seems there is some question about the safety of the BVCs....some tests are showing that the wicking material is melting and turning to dust...causing concern about it getting into our lungs. :ohmy::( So I have $40 worth of stuff sitting here waiting for more info. :cry:

Aspire makes the Nautilus so do they use the same wick material? :?: 8-o
 

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I could send you my email address and do it, too.

This paperwork is for a program qualification.

On the BVCs, that should only be a "potential" problem, generally only happening if the tank runs totally empty and the coil burns red hot. Please check the notices and articles to see what the real concern is. But there are also the original BDCs that will fit and work, and they have a proven track record. That is, if you don't mind a dual coil.



Then post the links and I'll check it out for you. I was using ceramics for a while, until I couldn't get them anymore. The only real concern is in the purity of the ceramics... if it is only ceramic or if there are metals mixed in (from what I know so far). The ceramics used to make the wicks I was using had metal in them, but there's a process where they get soaked in lemon juice for a while which cures that (eats it out or something), leaving a pure ceramic. On the other hand, some people are alarmists, not really knowing what they are talking about.

Got my initial concern.....thread in General Vaping Discussion: thoughts on ceramic wicks. Then someone there posted this: :blink:

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2df57u/aspire_just_released_a_statement_regarding_the/
 

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Aspire makes the Nautilus so do they use the same wick material? :?: 8-o

The Nautilus Mini can use both the BVC and the original BDC coils, but No, they are not the same inside. The BDC has Silica Wicks inside a Fibrous Sheet that touches the sides of the Head Chamber. Juice comes in touching the Fibrous Sheet, and the Silica Wick touches the Fibrous Sheet to get juice to the coils. The BVC has a Ceramic Cup that a single Vertical Coil sits in.
 

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:wipes sweat of forehead:

Oh good. I got a ton of stuff for it!

Here ya go . . .


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Did you read that whole thing? :ohmy: I found it earlier, but didn't read it all.

Yes. I read it all. I know the BDC and BVC are different. The reason I wanted the BVCs is because of all the great reviews. And there are more and more of them everyday. I have lots of the BDCs.....I wanted the latest, greatest, but not at the expense of Mesothelioma or something like that.8-o
 

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Yes. I read it all. I know the BDC and BVC are different. The reason I wanted the BVCs is because of all the great reviews. And there are more and more of them everyday. I have lots of the BDCs.....I wanted the latest, greatest, but not at the expense of Mesothelioma or something like that.8-o

I've read enough and it all seems like a bunch of Rant to me. I researched all of this (except for ceramics) before I found the Beach in http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...erials-safe-vs-dangerous-480.html#post5717639 This thread was started by a guy in Russia who found that Silica Wicking can create chards from a Dry Burn that can be inhaled. But it was torched with a butane torch while it was brand new and totally dry.

The conclusion that I came to, after reading the whole thread and all the alternative wicking materials that were experimented with in that thread (including cotton in several forms, hemp twine, and bamboo twine) was that NO Wicking should be allowed to Dry Burn when you are vaping on it. And really, that Dry Burning a Silica Wick to Clean it has the potential to leave shards on the Wick and Coil, so it should really be rinsed off before using it again (but not many actually do that).

I haven't seen where the Reddit thread is talking about BVCs at all, except for the initial post that has a link to the PDF. That PDF shows testing results... http://kn100.info/hosted/scs.pdf. But even that was about the Fiberglass Paper used, which looks (from the image at the bottom) to be the Fibrous Sheet used in the BDC that I mentioned earlier. IDK if that same material is wrapped around the ceramic cup in the BVC, but everything except for Lead that was tested for was not detected at all (as shown in the PDF), so they are saying this material is Safe.

To me, it's more about using all of our vaping gear properly. If someone tried to push something like the Nautilus Mini BVC beyond its designed limits, by something like high Voltage or Wattage, then that's when problems can occur. You vape at about 8W, so I don't think you'll have any problems, as long as you keep juice in the tank.

Mesothelioma is not a concern because there is no Asbestos, Fiberglass, or Graphene here. OK, Silica is Fiberglass-like, but can be natural or (I think) manmade. But they are just ranting about safety in general, and what they don't really know is good or bad from definitive testing. It's not really a problem in a BDC, either, as long as you keep the wick and coil wet. That's Silica, but keep it wet. Silica is in every factory Head you're going to purchase, except for something like the BVC (unless that Fibrous Sheet is in there too), but you want to keep any wick/coil system with plenty of juice. Every wick/coil system has its issues... cotton will burn if not kept wet.

If you have an area of concern, we can research it, but that just stirred doubt, IMO. The Vaping Greek has issues with cotton. I have issues with PG. Some people have issues with VG. Others have issues with Ethyl Alcohol in juices. But where this Reddit thing is concerned, just keep your juice levels up and you should be OK.

Do you have other links?



OK, I found this . . .



Apparently, the Fiberglass Paper is what you see in the breakdown (and there is no ceramic cup), so the PDF is showing how safe it is to use, from a level of Purity Testing. However, you have to keep it wet, just like Silica. Fiberglass and Silica are in the same family. But this Fiberglass Paper is attained via some manufacturing process. However, so is Silica Wicking.

Would I be concerned about using it? NO!

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I say it's not a problem as long as the coil is wet because the material (Fiberglass, Silica, or whatever) can't get hot enough. The juice will keep it cooler than the danger temps. Just like water in a pot keeps a can of beans from burning when the stove burner is on high. The water is boiling, but it's cooler than a burn temp. And as long as there's enough water in the pot, there's no problem. Same kind of thing here.

Since this thing has Fiberglass in it, there is a potential for Mesothelioma, but you have to keep juice in the tank to prevent that.
 
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I hope he had other things checked besides his eyes. :laugh: And I am sure thoses tests are not coming back normal. :facepalm:

Thanks, VG....I will go ahead and fire up my BVC....and if I get Asbestosis.....well, it's been nice knowing all of you. :facepalm::D

I edited after more research, but the point is, Keep juice in the tank!!!
 

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I edited after more research, but the point is, Keep juice in the tank!!!

LOL.....I always do....I hate dry hits so I make sure that when the tank gets 3/4 low, I fill it....never had a dry hit on any of my bottom coil tanks, and I never want one. This thing does produce lots of vapor.....not sure it tastes any better than my BDC Aspire.

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