Loveline: Am I too open and honest.. with women? WWYD?

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Okay here it is.. this is driving me crazy. Not really wanting to talk about it with anyone I know personally. I'm getting cabin fever, and having some big money problems, and I am in :censored: kansas. So. I want to go and see one of my lady friends to get away for a week or two..

The two I am considering:

A. The one I want to see.. she's amazing at all of the important things I want done for me.. She's got a NY accent.. She's got a wonderful body.. And I can do pretty good money wise being half hour from the city. But she doesn't have the money to buy my plane ticket.

B. The one that is all dying to see me.. she's amazingly sweet and honest and nice looking... She's good at all of the things I need from her.. Great body... And plenty of money. Not plenty, a-lot. She can buy better plane tickets and wine and dine me and take me out to the casinos and all kinds of things.

Here's the rub.. I, for some reason, don't really feel like seeing #B..
And I'm considering buying MY OWN plane ticket to see #A..

Sigh

It seems to make more sense to see the one I seem to have it for seeing and I would have more time to hustle and make some money with #A. With #B she'll want me to be with her, 24/7, making her happy. I won't be able to get away to do things I need to.

Right now I just want to throw my hands in the air or put my hand through a wall.. which I actually did when I woke up, awhile ago. :(

The biggest question, is, since I pride myself on honesty and being open ... How much do I have to tell #B about #A? They do know about each-other. And #A has no problem with me going to see #B if that is what I want.

And #B knows I've been considering seeing #A which I think makes her jealous.. And that MAY be why she is chomping at the lips to see me. And I'm a bit offended by that.

Honestly I think if I wasn't completely broke, I'd go off by myself and just enjoy some new women somewhere. Just because this is so stressful for me. But my compensation for what I do is CLOSE TO TWO MONTHS LATE if you can imagine - things are BAD!! I pretty much have to do one or the other. A or B. What would YOU do?

Maybe see #B and then #A.. ? Stay home and work through the money problems by myself like I should? What.. this is getting bad :unsure:
 

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I believe it is very manipulative on your part to be considering going to see either one of the women when you are apparently just wanting an escape from your life "I'm getting cabin fever, and having some big money problems, and I am in kansas".

I say get your life working first and then invite others into your healthy, centered/grounded, self-financed life. Anything less would be unfair and pointless. IMO
 

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My first response to your OP, without reading any of the responses, is ... are you expressing frustration or boasting? LOL

If I was in your horrible predicament :p I'd forget about the bodies, and the money, hard as that may be for you to do, and (assuming you've spent some time with each of these women) follow your gut instinct ... which one are you happiest to spend time with? If you can put bodies and money out of your equation for just a moment.

Unless you're just looking for a short term relationship. Then, the equation changes. But, you might as well be getting advice from a Martian ... next response.
 

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I believe it is very manipulative on your part to be considering going to see either one of the women when you are apparently just wanting an escape from your life "I'm getting cabin fever, and having some big money problems, and I am in kansas".

I say get your life working first and then invite others into your healthy, centered/grounded, self-financed life. Anything less would be unfair and pointless. IMO


I don't know if my life will ever be centered and grounded.. Self financed wouldn't be so much of a problem if I didn't have loved ones demanding all sorts of things from me all of the time..

What is manipulative? I tell them exactly what's going on.. what I expect of them and what I will do for them.... if someone doesn't like it, they don't have to see me. If you think I'm trying to run them against eachother, you're way off base!!
 
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My first response to your OP, without reading any of the responses, is ... are you expressing frustration or boasting? LOL

If I was in your horrible predicament :p I'd forget about the bodies, and the money, hard as that may be for you to do, and (assuming you've spent some time with each of these women) follow your gut instinct ... which one are you happiest to spend time with? If you can put bodies and money out of your equation for just a moment.

Unless you're just looking for a short term relationship. Then, the equation changes. But, you might as well be getting advice from a Martian ... next response.

Boasting about being me wouldn't make a-lot of sense. I tell you what I would do if I could. I'd go get new kidneys, life a long life like everyone else, get a corporate job and raise some wonderful children. Some of us don't get that chance.. I tried to be long term with two different women in my lifetime, and it didn't work out.... It is an outright miracle when I trust someone, so I tell my lady friends upfront what it is, it's not likely I'll fall into a love I tell them .. and it isn't

I just need to get away... When I am here in this state, all and I mean ALL I do is solve problems for my family and run around trying to provide food, medicine, damage control, emotional assistance, guidance.. Jesus man I feel like I have several children I never planted.

What I'm trying to do is convince myself that is OKAY to buy my own plane ticket because with #A I know I'll be able to make my own money for myself, out there. But in order to do that I have to leave these idiots without enough food... at least for awhile.. and I know I should. They deserve it and I can't live the rest of my life for them..

I am also scared to death they'll do something to lose the house or burn it down while I am gone, but by god I have got to get away!!! Last time I was gone a couple of years they were >THIS< close to being on the sidewalk. They had a mortgage and such a :censored: up mortgage I almost never did get it out.. You would never BELIEVE the hours spent on the telephone and the stack of paperwork ... you just wouldn't believe it .. and have you ever tried to look through filed papers in a HUGE BUCKET.. I swear to god

man

Well at least it's good getting some of this off of my chest
No matter what anyone thinks
 
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THE... I'll be perfectly honest with you.

Any woman who isn't smart enough or self-loving enough to see that you're being manipulating and shallow, and that her ability to wine and dine you is higher on your list than her brain, deserves whatever she gets.

It's not like it's difficult. Even online, you make it obvious. No woman of quality or self-esteem would so much as blink at you.

Who cares what you do? The women who involve themselves with it have decided they don't deserve better, and you don't seem to understand where you're going wrong, so you'll never change. They know it.

So do what you will. There's no helping some people.
 
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AOL didn't exist in the eighties, obviously. But, you're a hangover from the 50s so far as I'm concerned. You're view of women is neanderthal, at best.
Gimme, gimme, gimme. How about some respect? I'm outta this thread. Believe it or not, it's not all about YOU and your selfish needs.

You'll may find (I doubt it though) when you mature, that you get out of a relationship what you put into it.
 

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You know what's funny.. some lady gets on here telling me am I twelve.. Women play men for money all of the damned time and no one says anything. Then I'm in a bad spot and going to see one of my lady friends, who I am 100% honest with, and I'm going to improve their lives, and make them very happy ... just to get away for awhile and/or explore some opportunity.. and some lady is telling me I'm childish

Try having the responsibility I've had to shoulder since I was a young boy.. That you should never have had to have.. and see if you don't get into a bad spot now and then.. see if you might not want to get away for awhile, sometimes.

I don't take a tenth of what I could.. I don't take advantage of anyone
I stay away from the weak minded women I could really take for a $mint$
And it's funny how it's all okay and fine for a woman to be travelled by a man but the moment a male isn't just another sucker spending all of his money on women, he's a childish person or a gigolo

What a world we live in!!
 

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You know what's funny.. some lady gets on here telling me am I twelve.. Women play men for money all of the damned time and no one says anything. Then I'm in a bad spot and going to see one of my lady friends, who I am 100% honest with, and I'm going to improve their lives, and make them very happy ... just to get away for awhile and/or explore some opportunity.. and some lady is telling me I'm childish

Try having the responsibility I've had to shoulder since I was a young boy.. That you should never have had to have.. and see if you don't get into a bad spot now and then.. see if you might not want to get away for awhile, sometimes.

I don't take a tenth of what I could.. I don't take advantage of anyone
I stay away from the weak minded women I could really take for a $mint$
And it's funny how it's all okay and fine for a woman to be travelled by a man but the moment a male isn't just another sucker spending all of his money on women, he's a childish person or a gigolo

What a world we live in!!

You know what? If a woman was silly enough to come on here and admit she was a gold-digger, I'd tell her EXACTLY the same thing I just told you.

Oh whine whine whine. Your childhood was hard. So was mine. And guess what. I don't use people. And I don't use my childhood as an excuse for my failings.
 
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