Low voltage, long puffs VS high voltage, short puffs

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sociofobs

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This might come down to personal preference but I'm interested in different opinions.
So, yesterday I got my eGo twist with Vision eGo clearos & a Kanger T3, 2.4ohm. I love the T3 but it makes me cough sometimes. I know it might be my ejuice, it's 'energy' flavor (TBS Premium ejuice - tbs premium eliquid - The Best Shop Limited).
I experimented with the voltage, here's some results: at 3.4 - 3.8 volts I get sweet, light puffs, less throat hit, but it lacks vapor. If I want to get more vapor, I need to take long or really long puffs at this voltage, still, sweet taste & it does not make me cough. At voltage 4.0 - 4.4 I can make a 1 - 3sec. long puff & it's really closer to smoking a cigarette, not a waterpipe. Good, warm vapor, but it seems too strong. I don't have any 'sweet' eliquids to test this, I have TBS premium 'energy', nic - 19mg/ml, a cherry & tobacco liquid, both with 24mg/ml (too strong for me), and another tobacco liquid with 'medium' written on the bottle (I believe it's ~19mg/ml nic). So, your opinions? With the Twist I can control the vapor production & throat hit more or less, I love this battery. But if I want to do short puffs & get more vapor out of it, what should I do / get? Different eliquid? If that, then what exactly would you suggest?
 

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one of the mistakes we make with vaping is we put the device to our lips and push the button at the same time, when actually once you find a suitable voltage for the equipment, we should actually hit the button for a sec or so, let it fire up the head and get going then take a drag.

when we start sucking right away the coil has to heat up while we are pulling air over it causing the draw to seem like there is less vapor in the same amount of breath.


just my findings. i always press the button for a sec first then draw. and always see more vapor that way.
 

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But if I want to do short puffs & get more vapor out of it, what should I do / get? Different eliquid? If that, then what exactly would you suggest?

The only jds (juice deliver system) that I know of that is meant for and works better with short, hard pulls is the HH357 at avidvaper. For most jds be it tanks, cartos, or atties, best results come from a slow, steady, longer draw. I take about a 3-4 second draw. It was something I got used to quickly and rather enjoy the flavor sensation during a longer draw. As you found out, higher voltage means warmer vape, so if you prefer a cooler vape at higher voltage you need a different jds, as some are warmer and some cooler. Hope that helps a little.

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one of the mistakes we make with vaping is we put the device to our lips and push the button at the same time

I'm someone who pushes the button at the same time I start vaping. Having done that for years it would be a very hard habit to break. You are right tho, it does seem to produce a reasonable pull in a slightly shorter period of time. I've also heard to let go of the button a second before stopping because the coil remains heated during that time, but that's another habit I don't feel too compelled to change.

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one of the mistakes we make with vaping is we put the device to our lips and push the button at the same time, ...

Thanks, this helps :) I tested how the coil heats up at different voltages, at higher voltages there's almost no need to press the button before taking a drag, coil heats up almost instantly. However, at 3.2 - 3.8 volt range, it takes a sec, more or less. Pressing the button a sec before taking a drag gives me more constant vapor.

The only jds (juice deliver system) that I know of that is meant for and works better with short, hard pulls is the HH357 at avidvaper ...

I'll take a look at this, thanks :)
 

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I've also heard to let go of the button a second before stopping because the coil remains heated during that time, but that's another habit I don't feel too compelled to change.

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Another reason for doing this is it reduces condensation in the head cap and/or drip tip.
 

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I'm someone who pushes the button at the same time I start vaping. Having done that for years it would be a very hard habit to break. ...

Try it for a day & see if it makes a difference for you. Maybe it's worth to change some habits :) It's great to have a manual battery, I had an automatic one long ago -- hated it, there's nothing you can do to change the way it works while taking a drag. Incredibly how much control gives a button.
 

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Try it for a day & see if it makes a difference for you. Maybe it's worth to change some habits :) It's great to have a manual battery, I had an automatic one long ago -- hated it, there's nothing you can do to change the way it works while taking a drag. Incredibly how much control gives a button.

I have tried it for short periods. Like you noticed, at higher voltage there is less need for it, and I usually run at about 8-9 watts. I vape a lot, so attempting at doing it a day would mean I would have to think about it before every pull lol. What you wrote about autos was of the biggest frustrations for me when I started because the auto mechanism on early kr8 autos really sucked. Manual is def the way to go and surprisingly quick to get used to. I have recently got a cig-a-like Volt just on a whim and was surprised how well the new autos work now.
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There always seems to be some kind of trade off when going from device to device and low ohm to higher ohm and changing juices so no I just do the best I can with what I am using. I find I avoid clearos though. It's dripping or tanks for me so far and the variety of juices, well there just isn't much control over that unless I make it myself and with my inexperience there will not much control there for quite awhile. Sometimes accepting what you get is more enjoyable than fussing. Although there are things that certainly fail on to many points that would be best to reject.
 

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There always seems to be some kind of trade off when going from device to device and low ohm to higher ohm and changing juices so no I just do the best I can with what I am using. I find I avoid clearos though. It's dripping or tanks for me so far and the variety of juices, well there just isn't much control over that unless I make it myself and with my inexperience there will not much control there for quite awhile. Sometimes accepting what you get is more enjoyable than fussing. Although there are things that certainly fail on to many points that would be best to reject.

I accept what I have, I really love my kit :) spent a good time searching & reading forums before I bought my equipment. My problem might be the juices, I can't decide what to order, as reviews in these forums are mostly for USA juices. Ordering them might cost me more than those bottles themselves, not worth it.
Why do u avoid clearomizers? A thing I'll soon try out will be the Vision eternity rebuildable atty. Holds ~35 - 40 drops of juice (dripping) & does not leak. As far as reviews tell, I'll love it.
 
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