M201 & 402: My dream e-cigs!

[jac1599]

I would recommend ECSi's liquid. Jane has reasonable prices, free shipping, and I've always received my orders in less than 3 days.

I'd recommend her Special Blend #5....it tastes like cinnamon roasted pecans.

 

[dcsubburb]

thinking of buying the m201 who sells blanks for it ??

 

[caywen]

Can you enlighten me as to what retailers/brands of smoke juice TW/EST stand for? I just tried to order some Johnson's Creek (the sampler) but they told me it would be 1-2 weeks before the order was available (it was on backorder). I'm looking for something as a replacement for my first e-cig, which should be arriving (hopefully) within the next week.

I'm trying to get hip to the lingo myself, so I picked up on acronyms used by others. AFAIK, TW = Totally Wicket, and EST = E-SmokeyTreats. Both these brands have gotten pretty rave reviews in terraphon's videos, so I think these juices are way better than JC (Johnson Creek). But I haven't yet tried any of them because I'm resolved to vape my way through my JC stash first.

 

[effy]

thanks everyone for your help! i JUST placed my order through AEC. to say i'm excited would be the understatement of the year. i thought their site said it takes up to 10 days for it to be delivered but when i finished the order it said 2-5 business days. i sure hope it's the lesser amount!

-effy

 

[need_2quit]

somehow i posted this in another thread by accident

i'm still having problems with my M-402. I'm draining 2 atomizers (one had fluid drain out so maybe it was flooded?)

I have the 3rd atomizer in there and still no vapor. It's hard to break them in when I'm having problems.

I'm confused totally now = if I was dripping the atomizer would be wet and I should get good vapor. The atomizer is wet and still little vapor. I'm doing the slow sucking on it like a milkshake.

The battery flashed 3x today which I assume was a low battery? I wasn't sure if it was the cleaning cycle.... the manual doesn't say much. Especially about the atomizer. It just says it's disposable. It sounds like their referring to disposable all in one carts/atty's.

I'm really getting discouraged wondering if this is defective. I have 2 batteries, 3 atomizers, and a bunch of carts. I can give it a week to see if I get some vapor, but each atty has the same problem = little vapor. I'm wondering if the batteries are charging correctly? That usb connection flashed green/red after several hours. I did the 8 hr charge initially.

I'd contact the company about possibly defective, but I read their warranty and it looks like they'll replace defective parts on your next order. At $15. shipping, I'm not into ordering MORE to fix something that should work out of the box.

Highly unlikely that all the parts are bad though... unless it's the charger that's bad. Could that be the problem? The batteries?

if i pull the fiber insert out of a cart and use the cart empty and smoke the liquid off the atomizer, instead of totally cleaning it and having it dry again, would that be better?

Someone mentioned boiling the atomizers for 1 minute to clean them. Are there no electronic parts in the atomizer to be ruined with water?

I'm sorry for so many questions! I really, really appreciate everyone's patience and help. I purchased some 4mg nicorette gum yesterday and I am FINALLY getting my nicotine fix. I'm still trying to get vapor along with the gum and haven't had an analog since last night with the gum.

So it seems that the lack of vapor is causing lack of nictotine? The gum and occasional vapor coming out of it seems to be a nice combo, but the vap is what i need.

Thx guys!

 

[caywen]

somehow i posted this in another thread by accident

i'm still having problems with my M-402. I'm draining 2 atomizers (one had fluid drain out so maybe it was flooded?)
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Does your atomizer get warm when you draw? Also, before dripping, try draining your atomizer and try one of their cartridges first.

 

[klum]

somehow i posted this in another thread by accident

i'm still having problems with my M-402. I'm draining 2 atomizers (one had fluid drain out so maybe it was flooded?)

I have the 3rd atomizer in there and still no vapor. It's hard to break them in when I'm having problems.

I'm confused totally now = if I was dripping the atomizer would be wet and I should get good vapor. The atomizer is wet and still little vapor. I'm doing the slow sucking on it like a milkshake.

The battery flashed 3x today which I assume was a low battery? I wasn't sure if it was the cleaning cycle.... the manual doesn't say much. Especially about the atomizer. It just says it's disposable. It sounds like their referring to disposable all in one carts/atty's.

I'm really getting discouraged wondering if this is defective. I have 2 batteries, 3 atomizers, and a bunch of carts. I can give it a week to see if I get some vapor, but each atty has the same problem = little vapor. I'm wondering if the batteries are charging correctly? That usb connection flashed green/red after several hours. I did the 8 hr charge initially.

I'd contact the company about possibly defective, but I read their warranty and it looks like they'll replace defective parts on your next order. At $15. shipping, I'm not into ordering MORE to fix something that should work out of the box.

Highly unlikely that all the parts are bad though... unless it's the charger that's bad. Could that be the problem? The batteries?

if i pull the fiber insert out of a cart and use the cart empty and smoke the liquid off the atomizer, instead of totally cleaning it and having it dry again, would that be better?

Someone mentioned boiling the atomizers for 1 minute to clean them. Are there no electronic parts in the atomizer to be ruined with water?

I'm sorry for so many questions! I really, really appreciate everyone's patience and help. I purchased some 4mg nicorette gum yesterday and I am FINALLY getting my nicotine fix. I'm still trying to get vapor along with the gum and haven't had an analog since last night with the gum.

So it seems that the lack of vapor is causing lack of nictotine? The gum and occasional vapor coming out of it seems to be a nice combo, but the vap is what i need.

Thx guys!

AFAIK, the 402 doesn't have a cleaning cycle. I've been using for a while now and never had it go into cleaning cycle.

When the battery starts to flash, it's drained to the cut off and needs to be re-charged. Total recharging usually takes me about 2-3 hours. Did you try to charge on a regular power outlet, instead of the USB? Maybe there are issues with your USB port? There is a difference between USB versions and how much power they can deliver.

It's also possible to get the atomizer too wet. On my m40x atomizers, 2-3 drops is all they have needed to get good vapor. You can try to drain your atomizers, then put on 2-3 drops of liquid, with or without the inner cart in, you can still vape it. Just make sure that the inner cart is pushed back towards the mouth piece as far back as it can go. If you have the inner carts with the stick, push it back until the stick touches the end. The filling too close to the atomizer will suffocate it and you will get that really hard draw. Better yet, just take out the inner cart or at least the filling so that you will get no chance of burning the poly fill.

You should try to contact the company anyways and express your issues. Maybe they will take care of you since you are having difficulty with all of the equipment. Honestly, my m401/2 worked almost perfectly out of the box, but the spares that I've gotten have been hit or miss or somewhere in the middle.

I did get a spare battery that doesn't quite fit as well as the others. I believe that it's not contacting the atomizer enough to get a good power supply to it. I have to really tighten the battery to the atomizer and even then I get only half the vapor of the "good" connecting batteries. Could be this is your problem. I'm not sure how to fix it though. I've heard that some people have pulled on the contact on bottom of the atomizer to increase the contact, but didn't see many success stories on that and you may break the atomizer altogether.

kevin

 

[need_2quit]

thx guys. I haven't tried the USB charger yet. I have the funky new charger where the USB plugs into the wall adapter. You screw the battery into the USB end, but it requires both to wall charge.

Fresh battery, cart and still the same problem, so I pushed the cart up a little from the mouth end and seem to get a better draw. I noticed after doing that too, that it lights up fully on the end, where before it would only light one side of the end of the cig.

I checked it to make sure no poly is attaching to the atomizer and it's cool. Maybe the problem is the design of the carts? Awful tight in there and when I pull the cart after taking a drag, there is still vapor in the cart that floats out. I seem to not be getting the vapor through the cart, although I suck pretty hard.

Don't have my juice yet to drip, so I'll wait for delivery and give that method a try.

Oh man I just love this thing! As I said, it is the perfect size, weight, and really does satisfy the hand to mouth action that hooks us analog smokers. I can see how everyone is able to quit on e-cigs.

Once I get the juice, pull the poly and drip, if this thing still doesn't vap like it should, I'll contact the company. I'm thinking with the cost of new batteries, atomizers, etc, I should order the 401 model to have longer batteries and spares. It's great the way these things are interchangable. By buying an extra atomizer or 2, you actually have 2 e-cigs in a starter kit, to let others try out.

I definitely recommend this e-cig and am willing to keep t-shooting it.

thx guys for all your help.

 

[need_2quit]

ps - yes the atomizer does get hot with just a couple short drags. What does that mean?

 

[420inmyapt]

Finally the day i have been waiting for 4/20! oh and to top it off i got my E-Cig today.... ohh and its only got about an hour left on the first charge......

anyone know if i really need to charge it for 8 hours the first time? cause it has been blinking green and red for the last hour......(been on for about 6 hours...) well, once again its a waiting game for the battery... but hey atleast it not in the mail still...

 

[caywen]

ps - yes the atomizer does get hot with just a couple short drags. What does that mean?

Not sure, but it sounds like it might not be wicking the liquid into the mesh.

 

[ruuku]

i'm still having problems with my M-402. I'm draining 2 atomizers (one had fluid drain out so maybe it was flooded?)

I'm confused totally now = if I was dripping the atomizer would be wet and I should get good vapor. The atomizer is wet and still little vapor. I'm doing the slow sucking on it like a milkshake.

Try blowing out the atomizer, (clear any remaining fluid out of the atomizer/prevent the atomizer from flooding) then take out the inner cart and dripping on the atomizer (try 1-2 drops first then add drop by drop checking (vaping) in between drops to make sure you don't flood the atomizer). If the draw does not improve, then its most likely the atomizer.

The battery flashed 3x today which I assume was a low battery? I wasn't sure if it was the cleaning cycle.... the manual doesn't say much. Especially about the atomizer. It just says it's disposable. It sounds like their referring to disposable all in one carts/atty's.

I've never seen three flashes, but if you wait 2 min and try again does it flash? If so the battery is dead. There is still about ~20% charge left, but if you drop below 20%, the battery will be permanently damaged, thus get it to a charger. There is no cleaning cycle on any of the M series, battery flashing is only for the cutoff, and to signal a dead battery.

I'm really getting discouraged wondering if this is defective. I have 2 batteries, 3 atomizers, and a bunch of carts. I can give it a week to see if I get some vapor, but each atty has the same problem = little vapor. I'm wondering if the batteries are charging correctly? That usb connection flashed green/red after several hours. I did the 8 hr charge initially.

I'd contact the company about possibly defective, but I read their warranty and it looks like they'll replace defective parts on your next order. At $15. shipping, I'm not into ordering MORE to fix something that should work out of the box.

Highly unlikely that all the parts are bad though... unless it's the charger that's bad. Could that be the problem? The batteries?

This COULD be the case, but for me, out of 15 batteries, 4 have problems with an early cutoff. They still work perfectly and hold a charge, but after 2-3 drags i hit the 2min cutoff. This sounds completely different from your problem. Really sounds more like an atomizer problem rather than a battery one.

if i pull the fiber insert out of a cart and use the cart empty and smoke the liquid off the atomizer, instead of totally cleaning it and having it dry again, would that be better?

It depends on if you mind flavor transferring. The only reason i totally clean my atomizers is weekly maintenance. You can just vape the remaining liquid on the wick to get rid of any excess fluid, but this might still leave residual liquid on the coil or wick.

Someone mentioned boiling the atomizers for 1 minute to clean them. Are there no electronic parts in the atomizer to be ruined with water?

There is no circuitry in the atomizer itself, just wires running from the contacts (threading and post) to the coil. Submerging the atomizer SHOULD not cause any problems. Any cleaning regimen is pretty much at your own risk, but members on the forum have been soaking atomizers for about 24hrs with no damage to the atomizer. That being said, I don't think that you've had enough use to really need any cleaning. The main reason for cleaning is to get rid of any gunk on the coil, built up over time . It hasn't been determined what the gunk actually is, but some speculate its carbon build up.

I'm sorry for so many questions! I really, really appreciate everyone's patience and help. I purchased some 4mg nicorette gum yesterday and I am FINALLY getting my nicotine fix. I'm still trying to get vapor along with the gum and haven't had an analog since last night with the gum.

So it seems that the lack of vapor is causing lack of nictotine? The gum and occasional vapor coming out of it seems to be a nice combo, but the vap is what i need.

Thx guys!

Its kind of disappointing that you had to resort to buying nicorette... the M402 really should have taken care of any nicotine needs. Try the above and see if it makes any difference, and keep us posted.

 

[ruuku]

Finally the day i have been waiting for 4/20! oh and to top it off i got my E-Cig today.... ohh and its only got about an hour left on the first charge......

anyone know if i really need to charge it for 8 hours the first time? cause it has been blinking green and red for the last hour......(been on for about 6 hours...) well, once again its a waiting game for the battery... but hey atleast it not in the mail still...

Many say to charge the initial 8 hrs, but this is just a holdover from Ni-Cad and Ni-Mah cells. The cells used in e-cigs are Li-Ion, and simply do not need an 8 hr charge. I would suggest a full discharge -> charge cycle though.

 

[bmckenna]

I'm trying to get hip to the lingo myself, so I picked up on acronyms used by others. AFAIK, TW = Totally Wicket, and EST = E-SmokeyTreats. Both these brands have gotten pretty rave reviews in terraphon's videos, so I think these juices are way better than JC (Johnson Creek). But I haven't yet tried any of them because I'm resolved to vape my way through my JC stash first.

thanks, caywen. i got the JC sampler, so...we'll see how that goes. think they just shipped it, so hopefully it'll be arriving just as my 402 arrives. v. excited.

the other liquids look about the same price, except the totally wicked seems to be a good deal more expensive (and i'd imagine shipping from the UK wouldn't help cost either)...is it worth the extra $$?

 

[Donster]

thinking of buying the m201 who sells blanks for it ??

AbsolutelyECigs sells blanks now.

 

[Gehring]

I got it. It took 11 days from order to get to Wisconsin. Not to bad. I am charging the batteries now but I will let you know what I think later. I want to give both batteries a good 8 hour charge. The order was complete. I thought the 402 seemed well made. I ordered the sample pack of e juice also and was surprised be the volume. The other thing was the starter kit did not contain any directions. Lucky for this board and all the research I have done that I do not think it will matter.

 

[ruuku]

thanks, caywen. i got the JC sampler, so...we'll see how that goes. think they just shipped it, so hopefully it'll be arriving just as my 402 arrives. v. excited.

the other liquids look about the same price, except the totally wicked seems to be a good deal more expensive (and i'd imagine shipping from the UK wouldn't help cost either)...is it worth the extra $$?

No need to order from the UK, they have a US division:
Electric Cigarette & E Liquid - Totally Wicked Electronic Cigarette Fluid

 

[Myshkin]

Well just got the M401 from absolutely ecigs.com. This is my second ecig. The first being the 901.
I've had the 901 for about a week so i am overall new to vaping. I was looking forward to the m401 from reading reviews. My initial opinion is it is inferior to the 901.
My biggest issue is the hit. I feel like i have to drag longer to get a hit that still isn't to the 901 standard. I don't get much of a throat hit even though i'm getting some decent vapor. The hits seem alot more airy then the 901. So i feel like i have to hit it for a longer time.
On the flip side it sounds like the parts have a longer life then the 901s. The battery life seems similar, but the 401 lasts alittle longer. I also like the fact that the 401 carts use all the vapor.
Overall the inferior hit makes me want to stay with the 901, but i will give it a few days to see if it breaks in better.

 

[Myshkin]

By the way i prefer the look and feel of the 401. The mouth piece more resembles an analog.

 

[ruuku]

Myshkin: Are you using the exact same juice in the 401/901? I should be receiving my 901 tomorrow (I couldn't resist all the hype) , so I'll post my results/a comparison here. Also you mentioned that you'll give the 401 time to break in, this might be a very important step. Like i said previously, it took igetcha a full week of moderate to heavy vaping to really break in the 401 atomizer (although for him, throat hit remained constant).
It's interesting that you got a stronger throat hit with the 901. Most people say that the 401 usually gives a stronger throat hit, but the 901s vapor production is a tad better.