M201 & 402: My dream e-cigs!
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I'm a little confused regarding the sound activated switches. I bought my first M401 kit from absolutely and have since gotten a kit and an extra battery from ruyan. None of them seem to be affected by sound or vibration and only go off when I inhale. I have some DSE901 batteries from bestecig that are extremely susceptible to noise and go off all the time. Are the M401s just not quite that touchy? Have any of you ordered recently from ruyan or absolutely and gotten sound/vibration activated ones?
Loud sound and base affects them.. You can tell you have mic activated by blowing on the LED part... if it lights up, then you have them. They are not super sensitive, just wind and loud sound(mostly base) Mine go off on their own when i am watching my friend's band play at times... But they don't always go off... seems to depend on what they are playing!
All the batts from Ruyan and Absolutely are Smoore(m-series) and where i get mine. They keep improving on the batteries. The DSE ones are more rare, and not of the same quality. But are GOOD for places where there is a loud Base and driving down the highway with the windows open.
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I tried my luck recently to get Absolutelyecigs.com to replace an atomiser that died after 2 months. I just left a comment when i checked out and without hesitating, i received a replacement atomiser together with my recent order.
This is what i'm talking about!!!
This is what i'm talking about!!!
Awww... crap now what do i do with the 16+ atomizers that i have
.. Now, Fedor, your next mission, if you choose to accept it is to convince AEC to make a M401 and M201 manual USB pass through.
.. Now, Fedor, your next mission, if you choose to accept it is to convince AEC to make a M401 and M201 manual USB pass through.
Awww... crap now what do i do with the 16+ atomizers that i have
yes! Bug them about it.. I got an email from RuyanDirect and they will also be asking SMOORE if they can make these for us... The more SMOORE hears about this need, the better!
Just got my 401 from Absolutely eCigs
Some notes:
1) I charged battery first time for 8 hours via USB - it worked for about 10 minutes and then flashed.
2) My charger does not even work - red light does not turn on, as if the charger is dead or burned.
I have emailed the company - I will paste their reply as soon as I get it.
Apogee
Some notes:
1) I charged battery first time for 8 hours via USB - it worked for about 10 minutes and then flashed.
2) My charger does not even work - red light does not turn on, as if the charger is dead or burned.
I have emailed the company - I will paste their reply as soon as I get it.
Apogee
apogee: mahs shouldn't be too much of a problem on the mains, as the usb adapter will further cut this number down to 100mah. In fact, i use a powered usb hub to charge all my bats, and the raw power coming out is 5V@500mah.
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Just put together my mod USBPT for the 401, all I can say is Damn, why don't these things come with a 5V battery in the first place. I'm using my "weakest" atty, an old 2 hole intellicig branded one, and it is producing vapor like my newest AEC 4 hole. Will report back with durability testing (frying ect.) but so far everything seems-a-ok.
Isn't the usb passthrough for the DSE401 also 5V? Please let us know how your testing goes. Might be tempted to try making a mod for the first time.
Hey Fedor, I'm not too sure, but i believe that it would also be 5V. I know that with the 510 USBPT, voltage is limited to 3.7V because of the inline battery (i believe), however since the DSC PT goes straight though, it should be 5V. That being said, i just used a "new" design 4 hole, and jeebus... I think this takes out my 201...yup it provides more vapor. The only problem is, the higher voltage requires much more liquid. However, lighter flavors seem to "pop" more (loving AEC Marlboro with it).
Can't wait to make one for the M201... that's gonna be goooood.
Can't wait to make one for the M201... that's gonna be goooood.
When you say an inline battery, do you mean that the battery for the PT is a live one? I think the 510 only has a USBPT with the manual switch right? Most USBPT has a shell of a battery. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Whats really the point of having a live battery for the USBPT? Or a switch for that matter? Does it really make it better? Since the point of a PT is for the ecig to be directly powered by a power source, whats the use of having a live battery or a manual switch?
Just trying to learn more about this.
Awww... crap now what do i do with the 16+ atomizers that i have
You know what, i think i'll do better than that!
I have ordered a 510 to try it out and see what the fuss is all about. It seems that this model is smoking the Mseries literally. But all i've heard are comparisons between a manual switch and the auto Mseries. Thats hardly a fair comparison.
So why don't you guys help me out on what i should recommend to Smoore for improvements? So far, i've got the following:
1) Cartridge to hold more liquid
2) Cartridge to be refilled easier
3) USB passthrough and manual switches. (Please explain to me why the USB PT needs to have a manual switch?)
4) Perhaps a not so sensitive battery? - But i wouldn't wanna sacrifice any of the current performance.
I also have concerns with the above recommendation. Currently, the design of the ecig is rather cool and sleek. If they were to really incorporate the cartridge design of either 510 or DSE901, it would make the atomiser longer and imo, less attractive. Is that something we can all live with?
I'll compile something more detailed and submit it to Smoore via AEC, as they would most likely be able to translate it to Chinese for their engineers. Please only provide constructive suggestions and not waste time flaming one another, as these can sometimes happen in topics like this. Thanks a bunch, guys....
Well the 510 actually has a "AAA" size LiIon battery inline, It actually acts as a battery, so you can disconnect the PT and still vape. I'm not quite sure of the voltage when connected via USB, (if the PT overrides the battery and provides an unregulated 5V).
After reading all the hype about the 510, i broke down and bought one, (same thing happened with the 901...(which i eventually sold off).) and found I REALLY liked having the manual switch. The manual allows me to "preburn/precook" liquid so that its a higher temp when i inhale. It might be a trade off for decreased life, but it makes throat hit fantastic with even low nic liquids (I'm trying to get to lower nics without sacrificing T/H). I believe this answers more questions, but if you have any more, feel free
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After reading all the hype about the 510, i broke down and bought one, (same thing happened with the 901...(which i eventually sold off).) and found I REALLY liked having the manual switch. The manual allows me to "preburn/precook" liquid so that its a higher temp when i inhale. It might be a trade off for decreased life, but it makes throat hit fantastic with even low nic liquids (I'm trying to get to lower nics without sacrificing T/H). I believe this answers more questions, but if you have any more, feel free
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Yes, I made a USB PT last week and it is amazing how much vapor this produces. I have had HORRIBLE luck with atomizers, I've had 8 go dead in the 4 weeks that I've been vaping. I'm not sure that the 401 atomizer can hold up to 5 volts for very long.
On a side issue though, I ordered 5 atomizers (thank god) from eastmall. Those I never used with the USB but so far 3 of the 5 have gone dead after at most 2 days of use. I'm guessing a bad batch and they have offered to replace.
Perhaps I'm a atomizer serial killer but from my personal experience, I'm a bit concerned about the longevity of the 401 atty.
John
I could see how I would start buying a couple of each model as I became obsessed with vaping. Instead, I made a NicoStick and believe this will be the "go to" vaper for me. It lacks the elegance of the 401 battery but one 14500 battery lasts all day, it has a manual button for control and it fits easily in my hand.
When I screw on a 402 battery, I'm always amazed at how elegant the 401 looks and how comfortable it feels between my fingers.
AsI said above, my only concern is longevity of 401 attys. Perhaps I've just got a black cloud over my head when it comes to attys!
Haha... I see we both broke down
... anyways, i agree on all point EXCEPT the last one. I feel that if we are going to have an automatic battery, it needs to be as sensitive as possible (well not so much that any little thing will set it off, but...). Other than overall poor performance, my MAIN gripe with the eHealth model was the fact that i had to give my lungs a workout just to activate the battery. If it activated like a M, then i "could" have lived with it, I wouldn't be a happy camper, but i could live with it. An easy way of improving the carts, is simply to bring back the old "peg" style carts. Do you have any clue why they switched styles? It seems to me the peg had the lightest draw, and held a little more liquid than the wing design. They are more fragile, but the preformance was well worth it. Also the many people searching for a less sensitive battery are mostly looking because of clubbing, live shows...ect. If Smoore released a manual batt, this could take care of most of thier needs. Don't get me wrong, I love the mic switches in the auto batteries when I'm driving, or other times when i don't want to "think" about vaping, but for most other situations or when i need my nic fix the manual provides a better overall experience.
In terms of size, this is indeed a double edged sword. When first starting out vaping, many of us want an analog replacement. Size matters. However once I started getting used to the fact that i was now a "non-smoker" penstyles and mods did not seem all that unattractive, especially for the performance it proves. Many on this forum relate the M401 to a sport compact car... relatively cheap, easy to maintain, good (but not Italian sportscar) performance, EXCELLENT gas mileage (both battery and juice) all in a nice package. For me changing the M would be someting that i would TOTALLY be interested in, however I'm not sure its something that NEEDs changing.
Constructive critisim is very welcome an encouraged!
Perhaps i am still not understanding this correctly, despite some explanations given.
I will try to do some more research on the issue of auto vs manual batteries.
I would really appreciate it if someone can explain to me why it is necessary for a USB PT to have a manual switch design? Why have a battery in between if the sole purpose of a PT is to be used with an external power source? Does this make a better design? Does it provide better performance?
I will try to do some more research on the issue of auto vs manual batteries.
I would really appreciate it if someone can explain to me why it is necessary for a USB PT to have a manual switch design? Why have a battery in between if the sole purpose of a PT is to be used with an external power source? Does this make a better design? Does it provide better performance?
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