ok lol as i keep screwing with this thing i notice im getting faster at making good working coils so woot for that lol just did a 4 wrap and i think that may be the sweet spot but im so over nic'd from juice on my hands and tying to vape it to the right flavor i may have just killed my tongue guess i should go sleep it off but i got some numbness from that last bit. now to get that coil seasoned and i may be in business. the other thing may be that im so used to that heat from the .357 that i need to get used to the fact that im prob not going to get that and im ok with that so long as i get the flavor. these rba's are a tricky thing but i hear once you get it right there great