Made In USA.
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You want something made in the USA and nobody else is doing it its a good chance to get very wealthy dont blame the Chinese for filling the market, find some investors. Lots of ppl pay
over 20 for a protank im sure even with American labor cost there is room for profit
over 20 for a protank im sure even with American labor cost there is room for profit
Once had a Harley owner demand an American made CD player for his Bike..........I just laughed, smiled and said good luck with that.
Later.
Actually, there are a number of companies making stuff in the US. Just to name a few right off the top of my head:
House of Hybrids (Zen)
Provape
Protovapor
Are these companies doing OK? Probably. Are the owners (or investors) getting "very wealthy"? I doubt it.
OP was about bdc heads and tanks not high-end mods of course its harder to sell expensive devices than small disposable units that are what the majority of people go through at least 50 of before making ther own wicks and coils
I went with grand vapor for my first mech. topped with a trident. because that was the best they had available and I liked the way they looked together. They had some clones and that's not my style. I like the best and am willing to pay for it no matter what the item. I prefer to by locally but my next acquisitions will be made in usa. if this is still available on payday I will nab it, TI Steam Turbine
and this as well Dominus Fecit Brushed - Dominus Mods - Mechanical - Devices
Imho, we dont have things made in america anymore, because of corporate greed and avarice, not lazy people. PTTP
and this as well Dominus Fecit Brushed - Dominus Mods - Mechanical - Devices
Imho, we dont have things made in america anymore, because of corporate greed and avarice, not lazy people. PTTP
Consumers dictate what is made here, not corporations. I make thermoplastic reinforced hose and tubing for the military, automotive, beverage, medical and oil and gas industry. Our customers buy from us, not because of price- we charge a premium, but because of our quality.
Most consumers for general goods decide what to buy based on price. I would gladly pay $25 for a 5 pack of bcc coil heads made in the USA; not enough would, though, to justify a US company to invest capital in making them here. Most people here wouldn't pay more than $6 for a 5 pack...
Well- think of this one- two years ago, when the market was made up of a lot of cheaper/crappier mods, the provari developed a following with massive success. No one would have thought so many people would pay ~$200 for a mod setup. If you build it (and build it RIGHT)... they will come!
I have 3 tanks and the only good thing I can see thus far is that I can see the juice inside of them and they do not leak. That is as far as it goes.The heads have no consistency whatsoever. They work for 5 minutes and then I get an ash taste. I have a 1.5 dual coil carto shorty that works ten times better. It is the only carto that works.
I went for 100 dollars on the three tanks and about 30 dollars on heads compared to 2 dollars for the carto. This is totally unacceptable. I do not know how people are getting these heads to work on a consistent basis. I think it is all bs. I refuse to buy more heads. I am just going to buy a Kayfun and see how it goes from there. The 3 tanks I have are:
The protank 2
The aspire Nautilus...
The aspire bdc viva nova.
If the heads do not work...who cares about the tanks. I had a miserable month vaping because of this. Even the juice taste better on the carto..I bought tribeca from halo...put it in the tanks and it was just horrible.
I put the same juice in the carto and it is quite good...if it was not for the carto, I would never buy this juice again so you tell me how the juice taste better in a tank. I am not looking for vapor, I am looking for taste and hit.
I do not want to hear that this stuff from China is nothing but crap. If no-one complains about this garbage, they are not going to change. I will gladly pay up for quality than pay down for garbage. What good are the mods if the toppers suck. I purchased a provari and it makes no difference. Garbage is Garbage, no matter how you slice it.
I went for 100 dollars on the three tanks and about 30 dollars on heads compared to 2 dollars for the carto. This is totally unacceptable. I do not know how people are getting these heads to work on a consistent basis. I think it is all bs. I refuse to buy more heads. I am just going to buy a Kayfun and see how it goes from there. The 3 tanks I have are:
The protank 2
The aspire Nautilus...
The aspire bdc viva nova.
If the heads do not work...who cares about the tanks. I had a miserable month vaping because of this. Even the juice taste better on the carto..I bought tribeca from halo...put it in the tanks and it was just horrible.
I put the same juice in the carto and it is quite good...if it was not for the carto, I would never buy this juice again so you tell me how the juice taste better in a tank. I am not looking for vapor, I am looking for taste and hit.
I do not want to hear that this stuff from China is nothing but crap. If no-one complains about this garbage, they are not going to change. I will gladly pay up for quality than pay down for garbage. What good are the mods if the toppers suck. I purchased a provari and it makes no difference. Garbage is Garbage, no matter how you slice it.
'Are you hungry?
Eat your Mazda!'...
..was written on posters in Detroit a few decades ago. The greed 'n speed spiral ( aka globalization ) gout wound ever tighter:
Made in China? ... ipad, iphone, ithis, ithat, your logo sneakers, your designer jeans, if you do away anything made in China, you'd find yourself in sparsely furnished room wearing very little in the terms of clothing and no consumer electronics whatsoever.
'Made in Japan' used to be a derogatory term for cheap, low-quality, reverse-engineered crap. A decade later, the above posters appeared... Cuz they got better at it.
China follows that road too. Unlike Japan, the have a distinct advantage : They'se sitting on top of the biggest known deposits of lithium and some other rare-earth metals, without which there'd be no mobile comms and mobile power sources...
Orginals, copies, clones, copies of clones, clones of copies, clones of clones... e-cig business isn't just expanding, it's exploding... sure, plenty of folks on both side of the Pacific who want to cash in: The sweatshop in some Shenzhen basement, the shopkeeper who buys the cheapest stuff from over there to 'optimize' his margin... Caught the odd 'dud, but also have some dinky attys that just keep going...
But learning in the news that Chinese top party members shuttled funds in the billions into Carribean tax heavens - guess they've arrived
Eat your Mazda!'...
..was written on posters in Detroit a few decades ago. The greed 'n speed spiral ( aka globalization ) gout wound ever tighter:
Made in China? ... ipad, iphone, ithis, ithat, your logo sneakers, your designer jeans, if you do away anything made in China, you'd find yourself in sparsely furnished room wearing very little in the terms of clothing and no consumer electronics whatsoever.
'Made in Japan' used to be a derogatory term for cheap, low-quality, reverse-engineered crap. A decade later, the above posters appeared... Cuz they got better at it.
China follows that road too. Unlike Japan, the have a distinct advantage : They'se sitting on top of the biggest known deposits of lithium and some other rare-earth metals, without which there'd be no mobile comms and mobile power sources...
Orginals, copies, clones, copies of clones, clones of copies, clones of clones... e-cig business isn't just expanding, it's exploding... sure, plenty of folks on both side of the Pacific who want to cash in: The sweatshop in some Shenzhen basement, the shopkeeper who buys the cheapest stuff from over there to 'optimize' his margin... Caught the odd 'dud, but also have some dinky attys that just keep going...
But learning in the news that Chinese top party members shuttled funds in the billions into Carribean tax heavens - guess they've arrived
The myth of American "quality" died a long time ago. Detroit did not lose its position because of cheaply made foreign cars. Detroit made junk and was proud of it. That is no longer the case, but American manufacturing took a huge hit.
I ran global operations for a company that made precision components and complex machinery. Despite having a competitive hourly cost, the efficiency and quality of my US plants was in the gutter. And we spent a lot of money on having the latest and greatest equipment. In desperation, I brought in a bunch of Germans and Italians to teach us how to run a machine shop. It took a year to turn things around. I gave up on the UK, and shut down manufacturing there. The Brits were just too arrogant to listen, and they paid the price.
Poor training and lack of a real apprenticeship program in the US were a huge part of the problem. Fortunately, we had big margins on the spares and consumables which enabled me to hide a lot of the problems until I could fix them, but I put my .... on the line. American multi-nationals run their businesses on the stock price from quarter to quarter and do not have a lot of patience. Fortunately, for the people who work there, I arranged for the division to be sold to the Swedes before retiring. The place is thriving and everyone is happy.
So before any of you sound off about American quality, at least get your facts straight.
Here is but one sobering article:
Dan La Botz, "The Decline of Manufacturing and Machine Tools, and the Future of American Industry and the Working Class"
You will find hundreds more, not to mention the myriad of books on the topic.
I ran global operations for a company that made precision components and complex machinery. Despite having a competitive hourly cost, the efficiency and quality of my US plants was in the gutter. And we spent a lot of money on having the latest and greatest equipment. In desperation, I brought in a bunch of Germans and Italians to teach us how to run a machine shop. It took a year to turn things around. I gave up on the UK, and shut down manufacturing there. The Brits were just too arrogant to listen, and they paid the price.
Poor training and lack of a real apprenticeship program in the US were a huge part of the problem. Fortunately, we had big margins on the spares and consumables which enabled me to hide a lot of the problems until I could fix them, but I put my .... on the line. American multi-nationals run their businesses on the stock price from quarter to quarter and do not have a lot of patience. Fortunately, for the people who work there, I arranged for the division to be sold to the Swedes before retiring. The place is thriving and everyone is happy.
So before any of you sound off about American quality, at least get your facts straight.
Here is but one sobering article:
Dan La Botz, "The Decline of Manufacturing and Machine Tools, and the Future of American Industry and the Working Class"
You will find hundreds more, not to mention the myriad of books on the topic.
I realize I'm probably nit-pickinng, but lithium is not a rare-earth metal, and most of world's know deposits of lithium are in South America, not in China. The US also has huge deposits of rare earths, but doesn't mine them much due to the very high cost of doing so in a manner that's acceptable to the EPA.
You don't need to go to Germany or Itality to find quality workmanship. You can find it right hear in the USA. You'll also find greedy corporations who would rather produce a inferior product and blame the US work force in order to outsource jobs.
I actually don't own any clothing, nor shoes made in China, other than Cintas shirts my work provides.
You must be referring to union shops. We can't even meet demand for our products because out customers are tired of made in China or other bottom dollar manufacturing centers.
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