Major Dissappointment but will try 1 more time.

[Warren D. Lockaby]

can we sell / trade cartos and supplies here on ECF ? is there a board for that ?
Hate to think I just spent over $60 for nothing. The main reason I tried ECigs was to cut costs. Plain and simple.
a Pack a day = a good $155 a month. I am sure I would be More inclined to keep trying if there was a way to trade / sell instead of throwing them out.

I feel your pain, friend. There is a "classifieds" section on ECF but, while I think pretty much anyone who can post anywhere can respond (not sure about this), only megakickazzmultizupermembers or something can actually start threads there (I'm not sure about this either, but I'm pretty sure I don't qualify). Anyway on the bright side, consider this:

As a relatively poor old man on a broken income, I have realized that a portion of every dollar I have ever spent on anything has gone toward my education. That is as true today as it was when I was 12 years old & had a newspaper route. Now here's the deal: the more I get my money's worth in those lessons, the smaller a percentage of my NEXT dollar will have to go toward my education - unless I choose otherwise, of course. So, don't think of it as "money wasted"; if you learned from the experience it is no such thing. And keep those cartos unless you run across someone who can use them... you might find you really like some of them a bit later on.

Oh and one other thing: this is not an "all or nothing" thing. As several other posters mentioned, if you cut back gradually that's great progress. Just think of every analog you didn't smoke as a WIN and keep on vapin'! God Bless & good luck!

 

[ambition]

Mate, there's no such thing as failure, just feedback.

So now you know that v2 prefilleds are not for you. OK great, join the club

If you get some stronger menthol juice, you'll probably notice that the TH is not as extreme as some other flavours.

I vape 24mg menthol most mornings because I'm a little sensitive to TH for about an hour after I wake up, only then will I move onto the hard stuff (being 18 or 24mg non-menthol all PG juice).

I still maintain that you should consider getting juice samples for cheap somewhere because even though you have spent money on cartos and reality doesn't line up with your expectations, The cartos are great, your problem lies with the juice that's in them. Easy and cheap to remedy.

...., I'm almost tempted to send you half a bottle of dekang 16mg menthol all the way from oz just to help out.

 

[jays1fan]

There is also a new thread in the classies on how to become "verified" with some other options, hth!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/classifieds-swaps/260944-how-become-verified-member.html

Thank YOU !!!

 

[bjannr]

Anyone I have let try my setups have choked if they tried to inhale like they do with analogs. Take the advice of the above posts about technique. I have gradually stopped inhaling to the lungs altogether. But I do still get a throat hit and enough nicotine to satisfy whatever cravings I would have.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

for TH alone , 6mg compared to 12mg and 18mg , I like better. I smoked Menthol LIGHTS , so there was not a big throat hit. I like the Taste of my Menthol Cigs. I could not smoke a reg. cig without a PACK of GUM. Always said , I wish they never would have made menthols or banned them..lol
So I need more MG to Kill the Cravings but , the higher you go up in MG the harder it is to intake. So I am thinking maybe this is not for me. I at least wish I would have gotten some of the 12mg Menthol in that pack. But I can say I would not enjoy faping these new ones and wont go through the $60 trial and error again. These were to last me a month , then I was going to try juices to refill them. I went with the Prefilled because they were cheaper in this package then buying blanks.
Just trying to save the family some money by doing this ecig thing , but if its going to be hit and miss , I cant afford to do that.
I could have lived with the V2 Menthol , but now I am just heart broken over this and feel like a failure!

Another factor in throat hit is the PG amount. If you're using, say, 80% PG/20%VG you might want to get some juice mixed around 50/50. VG is a lot easier on harshness & throat hit, heavier on vapor production.

 

[Striker911]

I can say that v-2 "red" is the best flavor I have ever tried, so get some if you have not already. I have yet to find a flavor I can make that is close to it. Hazelnut is a far second, but its good.

One thing about the switch from cigs to vape is that your kicking 1,999 other harmful yet addictive chemicals. Its hard for a week or three. Maybe more hard for some. It was hard for me and I went back to cigs after a short time. I gave ecigs another try after my dad had his heart attack and he was forced to quit. You still have to want to quit basically. Like so many have said. It takes time. Just think about the bene's and drive yourself. Vaping is more fun then smoking for me now. I can do it in the car with kids in it, in stores, in the house. No more cold smoke breaks on the porch or in the smoke shack. It also gets cheaper in time and the bene's out weigh the neg's by far. Keep trying and you will not regret it. Make your own juice if cost is an issue.

You do not have to buy blanks from v-2. your prefilled cartridges can be refilled although not as good as blanks. Id say refilling regs is about 80% as much vapor give or take as blanks. I quit v-2 but my dad still uses them. I think he has like one pack of blanks and 10 packs of prefilled ones that he refills with the juice I mix up for him.

 

[Stonefather]

I would say that you deff need to shop around, try other suppliers other than v2. Finding what you like is half the battle, but once you find what you like, vaping becomes much more fun. I have wasted a good bit of money on juice I will never vape, but though this process I have found what I love. At this point you start saving money as you no longer have to shop around unless you want to.

 

[jays1fan]

Thanks guys for all the advice.

 

[Cheechako]

I smoked non-filtered analogs for 30 years, didn't like the tobacco flavors at all.
Now hooked on Cherry Menthol, feels like smoking a pipe!
So hopefully, you will find a flavor like I did for smooth vaping!
Good luck!

 

[jays1fan]

Another factor in throat hit is the PG amount. If you're using, say, 80% PG/20%VG you might want to get some juice mixed around 50/50. VG is a lot easier on harshness & throat hit, heavier on vapor production.

Is VG what people talk about that is THICK and can ruin the automizer or whatever the thing is called in the Carto that actually burns the liquid ? Does anyone know what combo V2 makes there juice ?
Like I have said , I DO LIKE THE V2 Menthol , and could be happy with that. or at least Try other Menthol juices to refill these cartos. I dont know anyone that sells 40 blank cartos that work on a V2 Battery for $62 dlvd.
My Hope was , I would like the taste then Use these Prefilled cartos to REFILL with different juices. Use the Coffee Prefilled and try other juices in coffee flavors , same for others. Plan backfired since I went up in MG and cant do the 18mg.
TH wise , I could do the 12mg in Menthol I am sure. I like the 6mg TH , just still had cravings so I took the advice to bump it up. Just glad I didnt go to 24mg or higher like some suggested, lol.

 

[ambition]

The good new is that v2 don't go any higher than 18mg

Yes, VG is the thick stuff that gives clouds of vapor but no TH. I would try a 80PG20VG mix in the cartos. Any more and you'll get it too thick and also dull the flavour.

I get what you're saying OP, but seeing as you don't like the coffee flavoured cartos all that much, and are probably likely to not like many others, are you aware that you can clean them right out and use other flavours?

All I'm saying is that even though buying a few juices might set you back another 15 or 20 bucks with delivery, and immediately you have spent more than you budgeted, as soon as next month you'll be far in front of where you'd be smoking analogs.

You were going to buy juices anyway and the money you've spent on cartos isn't wasted, buying blank cartos was the same price remember.

edited to add...The TH on menthol IMO is as weak as. Even if it is all PG. Maybe you should just check it out.

 

[ChristieSunshine]

Hey Jays1! I know exactly how you are feeling and hope to offer some words of encouragement. 6 days ago I put down the real cigs and picked up my 1st PV. It's by far not a replacement for my Marlboro menthol lights that i've been killing myself with for 14 years. Vaping isn't an exact replacement, but has helped me tremendously with the quitting analogs process.
Personally I feel that it all depends on how bad you want to quit the real ones. If you're at the point that you realize its damaging to your health, and really want to put them down, then you will.
Its not easy, not easy at all, but you can and will if you set your mind to it

Be sure to treat yourself as you go along. One day without an analog, reward yourself. 3 days, reward yourself. 1 week, reward yourself, and so on! You deserve it for accomplishing something great!

Today I rewarded myself with an E-Go for being smoke free for a week.

Being a newbie as well I don't have the answers to your questions about juices (mine are on the way). I'll be glad to get back to you with my opinion on them when they arrive.

 

[jays1fan]

The good new is that v2 don't go any higher than 18mg

Yes, VG is the thick stuff that gives clouds of vapor but no TH. I would try a 80PG20VG mix in the cartos. Any more and you'll get it too thick and also dull the flavour.

I get what you're saying OP, but seeing as you don't like the coffee flavoured cartos all that much, and are probably likely to not like many others, are you aware that you can clean them right out and use other flavours?

All I'm saying is that even though buying a few juices might set you back another 15 or 20 bucks with delivery, and immediately you have spent more than you budgeted, as soon as next month you'll be far in front of where you'd be smoking analogs.

You were going to buy juices anyway and the money you've spent on cartos isn't wasted, buying blank cartos was the same price remember.

edited to add...The TH on menthol IMO is as weak as. Even if it is all PG. Maybe you should just check it out.

Well , until I find out how V2 makes their juices ( 80/20 or whatever ) , I maybe just buying more of the same problem.
But I did NOT know , I could cleans these out Completely. How do I do that ??? Might be interested in Trying that with the Few I tried and selling the untouched ones. Then Buying some juice.
I know the V2 JUICE IS HIGH PRICED. So since I got 10 Menthol cartos to start , I will try samples of other menthols to refill those. But would still like to recoup "Some" of the money" on the ones I wont touch and go on from there. Or at least trade.

I did in fact go buy a pack of cigs tonight. Sad about that , but had to be done since I only have a few menthol cartos left.
At this point , I would be happy going from a 3 carton a month smoker and spending $155 , to a 1 carton a month smoker and ecig vaper with a total cost of $75 ( about $20 on juice and stick with 1 menthol like the V2 which I like )

 

[Traver]

In my first 6 months of vaping I spent about $850 on cartos juices and batteries and a lot of veterans on this forum have spent more. Never felt bad about because it was still cheaper than smoking. Even my wife was telling me not worry about because it is nothing compared to the cost of lung cancer. Very few of us were able to find what worked right of the bat. Besides as ambition has said you can still clean those cartos and get you moneys worth out of them.

Now that I know what I want and don't experiment much my vaping costs about $10 a month.

 

[cags]

There is a classified and swaps forum here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/classifieds-swaps/

There is also a Pay-it-Forward forum here: Pay It Forward - PIF

you should read the rules of both threads before posting in them...........

 

[Trucapri]

I'm not familar with the V2 cartos, but if they can be refilled, then I would imagine they can also be emptied, with the e-juice saved for the most part, by the Taryn Spin. When I have a carto fizzle out on me, I spin the juice out and put in back in the bottle. I've also spinned out juices I didn't care for, mixed them up with others and drip-tested them until I found something that wasn't too bad at all. I've mixed different nics to find a "between" strength as I've cut down. AND I've bought 100% plain VG and toned down the TH on juices I've bought without ruining my attys, cartos, or clearos.

Someone with a Taryn Spin video link and knowledge of the V2 cartos, please jump in!!

You can use these juices with just a little more knowledge, and while doing so, get a huge amount of knowledge that will serve you well later in your vaping life. No juice need be a complete throw away. If it's REALLY bad, then use it as an extender in another. VG will cut the flavor, so one that's REALLY bad to you will automatically be better when you add VG and even more so when mixed with one you really like. It will take some time and patience, but look at the money you can save, not only now, but in the future when a juice just isn't "quite right"! In a way it'll be like buying juice for your kids. Let's say you found cran-apple at a great price, but the kids went "yuk". Mix it with full apple, in a different jug, and viola!! they drink it up!!!!!!!

Best wishes and keep working on it a little at a time . . . you'll make it!!!!!!!

 

[classwife]

This thread was closed for a few minutes to edit for TOS.

 

[jays1fan]

you should read the rules of both threads before posting in them...........

yeah , I didnt know that I could say what I said in the first post and a mod just sent a pm and rule violation.
sorry guys

 

[Striker911]

I would have jumped all over your classified add but I had some bad exp with v-2's cartridges when I used them. I bought 3 defective packs of 5 in a row. Im like you man. I am a stay at home dad and trying to help save money. Making my own juice is the best move I ever made to do that. If u dont want to make your own at least look at other classified adds here where people sell juice. U can find some good deals. If you can not afford some juice I will send you some of mine.

Lots of people are effected differently when they try to quit smoking. You sound exactly like me. Times are hard for me and I cant tell you how many times I broke down and went to buy another pack. Once u cross that line though man there is no going back. Get your system worked out and come back to the ecig. Once u find what works its all over.

I tried 21st century smoke first. Could not dig it. Went back to smoking. Then bought V-2 and long story short I was taken and customer service at v-2 would rather have spit on me then even acknowledge me. So I took it personal. I was basically used for my money and abandoned. So I made a pact to myself that I was not going to be beat by cigs again. Went back to the 21st and made my own juice. I have never looked back and its been 3 months. V-2 is good when it works and maybe your just having the same issues I was having with them. Try another ecig. For less then a carton u can get a starter kit for 21st century smoke. Im sure many other places have kits for around the same price. Someone here gave me a smokestick ecig kit and I like that one as well.

 

[PaporPlas]

I was pretty lucky when I ordered my first PV - a Pig Cig. It was on the expensive side, but I ordred the perfect menthol (24mg - vaping 12mg now) and that worked very well. After a couple of weeks I got some clearomizer CE2's - which have wicks rather than polly-fill. The polly-fill cartos burn my throat and give a very dry vape for me. I got a second kit a couple of weeks ago (Mega eGo) that had 3 5ml eMDCC cartos with it. They look great with the batteries, but have polly-fill in them, and using them gave me the same effect as the first polly-fill cartos I started with. If I had to vape only with polly-fill I would probably not keep vaping. Not saying that is your problem, more that there might be something within your system that does not agree with your vaping experience. I say, keep using analogs while you workout what vaping style/system works best for you. Don't feel like you have to figure this out in one months time. Yes, it will be more expense, but you will probably cut your analog costs right away, as well.

Good luck!