Man Severely Injured After eCigarette Blows Up In His Face

[papergoblin]

Probably used the wrong battery or custom wrapped a lower coil. Hey I went today to a local shop and they have more than one. This shop carries the high end and the low. Unfortunately they don't teach their sales people well.

Salesman tries to tell me the efest 35a is the continuous not pulse, that they are not nor have been rewrapped lg. Of course my inner smartass came out and explained to him how he was wrong and when he said people should sue, I enlightened him to the fact efest is a Chinese company and good luck. He had no clue they aren't located in the US.

Then proceeds to say he goes over the 35a in his builds. Runs a mech at .12 ohms. This is what brings these problems on, the uneducated educate people. Then disaster happens, this shop has been building coils for customers well above the limit of safety.

I'm not saying that happened here with the guy's tank but this is the cause of so many of these stories. Be safe people, I've had an efest vent due to a hybrid cap and a bad Atty pin. Threw it as soon as it warmed, knew something was wrong. It didn't do like his but I needed a cigarette after it happened, lol.

 

[Scottitude]

@Scotticus93
@Nermal

In simplistic terms, an "all in one" unit with a proprietary atomizer or tank that connects directly to the battery/battery tube. The parts are not interchangeable with other mods/atties and can only be used (relatively) safely when used together.

More detailed info & discussion here:
What is a "hybrid" mod? | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Is it just me or are there two batteries in that picture?

 

[Racehorse]

actually...this is what Batteries can do.

Batteries for ANYTHING !

Except I don't hold the lithium batteries for my laptop, my weedeater, or my drill ----- up close to my face.


Silly or not-----There's a part of me that, first time I saw a 26650 battery in a mechanical, it was so heavy and big......I instinctively thought to myself: I do not want to be using this.

Seems like kaboom! with a 10440 battery versus a 26650 would be somewhat different. I can see how the vents would get closed off pretty quickly in a big batt meltdown, a tiny hole in bottom of a tube mod isn't going to give much "protection".

 

[Mooch]

Is it just me or are there two batteries in that picture?

That's what I was thinking...a badly burned one on lower left and the burst one at top.

 

[Monotremata]

That's what I was thinking...a badly burned one on lower left and the burst one at top.

Thats what I thought as well. If you look at the size mod itself, was he stacking 18650s in that? The top half with the tank attached looks long enough to hold one battery and so does the bottom half.

 

[YoursTruli]

That's what I was thinking...a badly burned one on lower left and the burst one at top.

charred insides and outside cover of one battery maybe?

 

[roxynoodle]

I'm sorry I sound ignorant. But what is a hybrid top cap?

I share your ignorance, Scott

They mean a pseudo hybrid, which is really a direct to battery connection. Its a mod with no 510 pin. The attys 510 contacts the battery directly. There have been numerous hard shorts and explosions reported, especially when using an Atlantis or other clearos with one.

The Skeleton Key is not that kind of mod. My guess is the battery wasn't up to the resistance he was using.

 

[roxynoodle]

I thought it might be stacked 18350s, too.

The S Key does have a kick ring. Its possible to fit stacked 18350s That might be why this happened.

 

[Mooch]

charred insides and outside cover of one battery maybe?

Possibly, hard to tell.

 

[smacuser]

The message of the article was pretty clear, this is what e-cigs do.

......happening more and more over the last year

Are these toppers the same?

 

[Racehorse]

I know they said the battery swelled so fast it closed off the vents and jammed the guy from getting the cap/bottom off on the one that exploded at the vape blast, seriously it can happen so fast it is over before you know what happened.

Yeah, thinking a tiny airhole in bottom of a mod would not be terribly protective in many cases?

 

[FlamingoTutu]

charred insides and outside cover of one battery maybe?

I really don't know but it kinda looks like he stacked them and there's two wrapper colors. Then again, your explanation sounds just a good. We need a better picture.

 

[Mooch]

Yeah, thinking a tiny airhole in bottom of a mod would not be terribly protective in many cases?

Not in my opinion. I would hazard a guess that none of the manufacturers do tests with cells in thermal runaway to measure the pressure inside the mod. Or, at least, grab a dozen of their mods and cause runaways in each of them multiple times.

And this doesn't even include testing different chemistries (with their different levels and temperatures of reaction) and cells with different can thicknesses. IMHO, you need as many slots/holes as possible at the top end of the battery, or batteries. Unfortunately, that would make everything look like the AR mod.

 

[Racehorse]

They mean a pseudo hybrid, which is really a direct to battery connection. Its a mod with no 510 pin. The attys 510 contacts the battery directly. There have been numerous hard shorts and explosions reported, especially when using an Atlantis or other clearos with one.

I am thinking you might be talking about something like the SMPL mod?

 

[YoursTruli]

Are these toppers the same?

I thought the same thing, they look the same.. almost like an ijust2...?

eta... maybe no the air control slot is to big for an ijust2 I think

 

[roxynoodle]

I am thinking you might be talking about something like the SMPL mod?

Yes.

I was trying to answer questions about that type of mod. First for people asking if this one was (no). Then for people who said they didn't know what that meant.

 

[YoursTruli]

I am thinking you might be talking about something like the SMPL mod?

they actually sell separate pseudo hybrid caps/tops you can replace your 510 connection caps with for a number of mechanical mods now

 

[roxynoodle]

they actually sell separate pseudo hybrid caps/tops you can replace your 510 connection caps with for a number of mechanical mods now

Yes, they do. Any 20 x 1 threaded mech will work.

 

[Scotticus93]

They mean a pseudo hybrid, which is really a direct to battery connection. Its a mod with no 510 pin. The attys 510 contacts the battery directly. There have been numerous hard shorts and explosions reported, especially when using an Atlantis or other clearos with one.

The Skeleton Key is not that kind of mod. My guess is the battery wasn't up to the resistance he was using.

Doesn't every mech mod contact it directly. The only mech I ever owned was a k100. And yeah I suppose. That's why I run regulated mods now. I know battery safety. Tho my regulated saved me from a short yesterday. Was on a nickel build so idk if that matters. But I think I'll stick with regulated