Man Severely Injured After eCigarette Blows Up In His Face

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None of that has anything to do with harming the THR movement. Even if there were never another equipment failure, those against thr would still be against it, for their own reasons.

Of course it hurts THR (tobacco harm reduction), not because it makes any difference with the anti-THR gangs, but because for the average consumer, the ones who don't come to ECF, reading about things blowing up in someones face has a strong tendency to make them not want to use it.
 

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Of course it hurts THR (tobacco harm reduction), not because it makes any difference with the anti-THR gangs, but because for the average consumer, the ones who don't come to ECF, reading about things blowing up in someones face has a strong tendency to make them not want to use it.
Yup, those reports of iPhones burning people have really put a dent in apple's sales.
 

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From????? :confused:

Negative rides the top Center pin
Negative rides the body(but wrapped)
Negative rides the outer switch housing.

None of that, exposed will cause a short in a flipped configuration.

Battery Plus aligns with switch center pin
He is correct when referencing an auto fire situation such as mod in pocket or stuck switch.

Tapatyped
 
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Sounds like some weird, sociopathic form of "prison justice".............

Fining a man or sending him to jail is prison justice? I don't follow you there.

Using your logic, a drunk that doesn't think he is too drunk isn't responsible for a wreck he causes that costs a child his/her life? In fact, you think we should feel sorry for the drunk if he gets hurt? You try to insult my beliefs, but you should really be taking a closer look at your own...
 

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Though, regulated mod owners saying they're happy about the one year (or so) of life they got out of their mod makes me pretty angry at these companies. I would normally consider that to be a either very bad product design or lousy assembly QC...or both.

I think a full year is rather "generous thinking" on your part. ;)

Like I always said, I have many small appliances in my home, from NOAA weather radio to microwave.....all costing less than some mods, all lasting many many years.

To be honest, I was kinda suprised when I started ordering vape gear, to find how truly badly made most of it was. I didn't mind because I was desperate, at that time, to quit smoking. Now.......if they were in the classifieds here for "postage only", I probably wouldn't kick in the $ :lol:
 

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I think a full year is rather "generous thinking" on your part. ;)

Like I always said, I have many small appliances in my home, from NOAA weather radio to microwave.....all costing less than some mods, all lasting many many years.

To be honest, I was kinda suprised when I started ordering vape gear, to find how truly badly made most of it was. I didn't mind because I was desperate, at that time, to quit smoking. Now.......if they were in the classifieds here for "postage only", I probably wouldn't kick in the $ :lol:

I would be scared to use most of the new China mods these days. No chance I want one of those by my face...
 
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Agreed. Though I would be stunned to find out that any vaping-related company had the budget for Class 3 inspection. Would be wonderful though!

In my opinion design is a huge factor too. In our demand for small devices the manufacturers have had to make huge compromises in designing for reliability and safety. Frankly, I'm stunned that most last as long as they do. Though, regulated mod owners saying they're happy about the one year (or so) of life they got out of their mod makes me pretty angry at these companies. I would normally consider that to be a either very bad product design or lousy assembly QC...or both.

I have to admit how I will feel about a mod's lifespan will be largely dependent on how much I paid and if I subjected it to abuse. I have some mods I bought with the intent they would be abused, lol! I have a small farm. I have certain cheap mods I bought to use for farm work and other grunt work. One is a $20 MVP. Others are isticks. If one dies prematurely it will likely be my own fault.

Now if one of my sx minis only lasts a year I'll be angry. My oldest mods are roughly 12-14 months right now. Two are mechanicals though. The other two are a Sigelei 100W and an istick 20W. I'm actually a little surprised the istick is still chugging along. I've not been kind to it. The Sig hasn't been babied either.
 

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Seems odd. Is there a reason?
That has to do with the supposed lethal dose of nicotine. 2ml's x max 20mg/ml =40mg of nicotine max in a tank. The LD50 of nicotine is supposedly 40-60mg's/kg. So the tanklimit of 2ml keeps us all safe. Or so 'they' claim.
 
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I think that there's a big difference between the cheap china mods and the better made, more expensive ones like the sigeleis. Maybe internally there is little difference but when i shake an itsick and hear the button rattle and try it with a sigelei 150 canae reproduce. Given almost everything is now made in asia pacific, i think its the spec that is what really counts. Otherwise all the phones would be junk. Maybe i am just naieve but the outward build quality gives me some hope this is true.

Being given lousy customer service from a US based vendor today who seem to think is should remind them to finally send me the 186 dollar order in the morning, after a week of this stupid.

Does not make me want to wave ANY flags around. Harrummph.
 

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I think that there's a big difference between the cheap china mods and the better made, more expensive ones like the sigeleis. Maybe internally there is little difference but when i shake an itsick and hear the button rattle and try it with a sigelei 150 canae reproduce. Given almost everything is now made in asia pacific, i think its the spec that is what really counts. Otherwise all the phones would be junk. Maybe i am just naieve but the outward build quality gives me some hope this is true.

Being given lousy customer service from a US based vendor today who seem to think is should remind them to finally send me the 186 dollar order in the morning, after a week of this stupid.

Does not make me want to wave ANY flags around. Harrummph.

Things made in China are made to meet the price and specs of the company who has them made. Most China companies making mods do the bare minimum to maximize profits. They don't have the R&D, engineering and QC Apple has in their FoxConn assembly plants. People are willing to pay $900 for an iPhone; not so much for a mod made in China...
 
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Things made in China are made to meet the price and specs of the company who has them made. Most China companies making mods do the bare minimum to maximize profits. They don't have the R&D, engineering and QC Apple has in their FoxConn assembly plants. People are willing to pay $900 for an iPhone; not so much for a mod made in China...

Honestly its hit or miss.

I have over 80 Chinese mechanical clones.
Most are pretty dam close to their original counterparts, in build quality, flaws and all at a tenth of the cost.

Some are far better.
I have several that surpass my super T mechanical in build quality.

Regulated is a whole different story.
Only my Innokin regulated devices seem to be up to standard.
Never had a single hiccup.

Every other Chinese regulated devices failed or had gremlins installed.
 

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Things made in China are made to meet the price and specs of the company who has them made. Most China companies making mods do the bare minimum to maximize profits. They don't have the R&D, engineering and QC Apple has in their FoxConn assembly plants. People are willing to pay $900 for an iPhone; not so much for a mod made in China...

I was just thinking aloud in that being made in wherever wouldn't necessarily scare me off. Probably out of context anyways since its one of those days.
 

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Honestly from what I've seen especially on the mech side, the Chinese mods are better now than they were 2 years ago.

I had a chdna 30 mod, the only difference between it and the DNA was battery life. The DNA was more efficient but is it because of the board, wire, or soldering ?

Look at the IPV or Innokin, Chinese and pretty solid. China can make A one stuff but like said earlier, it depends on what the contractor wants the price point at.

You can have things- good, cheap, or fast. You can only pick 2. That's the way its always been, lol.
 

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Honestly its hit or miss.

I have over 80 Chinese mechanical clones.
Most are pretty dam close to their original counterparts, in build quality, flaws and all at a tenth of the cost.

Some are far better.
I have several that surpass my super T mechanical in build quality.

Regulated is a whole different story.
Only my Innokin regulated devices seem to be up to standard.
Never had a single hiccup.

Every other Chinese regulated devices failed or had gremlins installed.


My Smok50 is a good mod, I like the weight and the onboard charger must be zip. My Hcigar vt 40 is my favorite. My volts and spinners all good. Well the vt40 is an Evolve DNA 40. It happens to be my favorite. It has one smooth vape which I never experience prior to it. Innokin check.. cept for that blasted pin and proprietary batteries..good business decision bad consumer decision.

My chinese mech battery holders.. check. Dug my brass 12 dollar nemy clone up from the backyard last weekend (a year there). A little cleanup and still works. Looked like crap so I covered in in some wet cloth and salt and dug another hole and put it in. Stainless 18 buck nemy clone.. it just works.
 

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You liked them so much you decided to buy 80 of them? o_O Really? 80?

Makes me feel glad I found my ideal setups early in my vaping experience. (shrugs shoulders)
Lol
:lol:

I used to repair damaged mods for three local vape stores.

Most were used as reference guides.
;)
It usually not good to judge a book by it's cover.
 
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