Manual vs Auto

[RobFindlay]

Everyone recommends the manual switch, which is what I have on my 510, but its honestly starting to annoy me because of how i like to hold my cigs....

What are the real differences? Why are the manual ones better?


-Rob

 

[TomCatt]

The auto batteries have a hole in the connector to allow air flow to activate the switch. If your atty or carto leaks any liquid while attached to an auto bat, you have a good chance of having a short and killing your bat. The manual bats don't have this hole and there is very very little chance of liquid getting into the battery/electronics/wiring to kill the bat.

 

[TWolf]

+1 for TomCatt.... in addition, auto batteries have been known to be activated by sounds or wind.... imagine a hot battery in your pocket at the wrong time....

 

[RobFindlay]

The auto batteries have a hole in the connector to allow air flow to activate the switch. If your atty or carto leaks any liquid while attached to an auto bat, you have a good chance of having a short and killing your bat. The manual bats don't have this hole and there is very very little chance of liquid getting into the battery/electronics/wiring to kill the bat.

Well that's a pretty good reason!

Conceptually I like the auto better, maybe a better version will come around someday.

-R

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Manuals allow you to have more control over your vape, whereas auto give you little, if any control. Granted, autos are getting better. Most don't require a primer puff to get started and they are no longer activated by sound or wind, but they still have their issues as noted in the post above.

Most mods have a manual button. The only big battery auto I know of is the Echo, but I really wouldn't consider this to be a mod in the true sense. It still has a proprietary battery.

 

[RobFindlay]

+1 for TomCatt.... in addition, auto batteries have been known to be activated by sounds or wind.... imagine a hot battery in your pocket at the wrong time....

Well that does sound kind of fun....hehe sorry, sorry sorrry....

 

[TWolf]

...and they are no longer activated by sound or wind....

I stand corrected on that note.... thanks for the info....

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I stand corrected on that note.... thanks for the info....

That's just the current models which are sold by reputable vendors, namely V4L, Bloog and Smokeless Image. There are still second rate models out there which are activated by sound and wind. I believe there are still some KR808 and 510 autos out there that will do this, but for the most part this problem has been solved. If they could just find a way to prevent liquid from leaking into the battery, I might actually buy an automatic, but I doubt that will happen any time soon.

 

[ardelleg]

I have purchased 3 manuals and over a dozen autos. The high number of autos is because I was trying different sizes, colors, brands, etc. In 5 months I have had only 2 batteries die, one auto, could have flooded... and one manual, the button quit working.
The only battery that ever activated in my pocket was a manual.
I definitely prefer autos. Although I do like my 808 elegant easy fat bat in spite of the button.

 

[wv2win]

Auto bats use to always have automatic "cut-offs" that killed the battery if you inhaled too long. You don't have that with manuals. Manuals definitely provide better control and tend to provide warmer vapor.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I like the new autos much better than manuals. I get tired of pushing a button 1,000 times a day and it is much more relaxing vaping an auto for me. The only PV's that have ever gone off in my pocket are manuals and I've had it happen several times. The new autos do not turn on from loud noise, vibrations or wind. If you use the new cartos that don't leak and remove the carto from battery while refilling there isn't a problem with juice getting into the battery. I've just recently gone back to autos now that they have 650 and 1300 mah batteries that are automatic like the Echo. I also have a volt besides my 650 and 1300 Echo and they all work great.

 

[wv2win]

I like the new autos much better than manuals. I get tired of pushing a button 1,000 times a day and it is much more relaxing vaping an auto for me. The only PV's that have ever gone off in my pocket are manuals and I've had it happen several times. The new autos do not turn on from loud noise, vibrations or wind. If you use the new cartos that don't leak and remove the carto from battery while refilling there isn't a problem with juice getting into the battery. I've just recently gone back to autos now that they have 650 and 1300 mah batteries that are automatic like the Echo. I also have a volt besides my 650 and 1300 Echo and they all work great.

What about a cut off? And if you drip with them, the battery is somehow protected from excess liquid?

 

[dormouse]

MANUAL - much less likely to be damaged or killed by juice leaks, easier to get a good hit since you can press the button in early and drag when there is already vapor made, ok to use a drip tip with manuals, won't turn on accidentally from wind or vibration

 

[txtumbleweed]

What about a cut off? And if you drip with them, the battery is somehow protected from excess liquid?

I don't drip with them often and the cutoff is about 6 sec but mine never cuts off except when I've tried to make it to time it. The Echo cartos do not leak at all so there isn't a problem with juice getting in the battery. I've only known of one person getting any juice in the battery and they were refilling with the carto attached to the battery which you shouldn't do.

 

[WPsharpshooter]

Based on my very little dealings with both, I tend to like the auto better... I have to sit my cig down somewhere when I have a manual bat in it or hold it in my mouth (PITA) with the auto I can put it in my pocket and do what I need... Just an early observation though....

 

[Puffadder]

What about a cut off? And if you drip with them, the battery is somehow protected from excess liquid?

I use both and like both. It's great to have options.

1. I have been dripping with an auto for 4 weeks and have yet to kill one. (NOTE: drip the atty when it's not attached to the battery. Same with refilling carts/ cartos.)

2. Not everyone enjoys or wants to drip.

3. I have yet to have the cutoff prevent me from getting a good vape. The new autos don't need a primer puff, don't activate unless you want them too, and I don't have to worry about the button accidentally getting pushed in my pocket.

In other words keep a couple of each on hand and you are set for whatever your preference at the time is.

 

[wv2win]

I use both and like both. It's great to have options.

1. I have been dripping with an auto for 4 weeks and have yet to kill one. (NOTE: drip the atty when it's not attached to the battery. Same with refilling carts/ cartos.)

2. Not everyone enjoys or wants to drip.

3. I have yet to have the cutoff prevent me from getting a good vape. The new autos don't need a primer puff, don't activate unless you want them too, and I don't have to worry about the button accidentally getting pushed in my pocket.

In other words keep a couple of each on hand and you are set for whatever your preference at the time is.

I would not like the limitation of either not being able to drip or ALWAYS having to take the atty off to drip - that would be a PITA.

 

[Puffadder]

I would not like the limitation of either not being able to drip or ALWAYS having to take the atty off to drip - that would be a PITA.

Please reread the first sentence, point #2 and the last sentence. I believe they address your concerns..

And while I occasionally drip I find it to be a PITA whether the atty stays on or has to be taken off. JMHO

 

[crk0756]

I had problems with my first ecig with an auto battery, eveytime i pulled it out, it was activated... best to have to have the manual so you can activate it when you want.....

 

[Coiso]

I've tried auto and manual, and it's true the manual don't have the hole, the manual makes possible to drip, the manual can be turned on before the puff.

Still I prefer the auto, and these new versions with no self activation issue, even better. It makes vaping just like smoking with no pressing buttons or other strange things. Also a good smart pcc is needed and the best is to get voltage regulated bats so they don't start at 4,1V and end at 3.3V.

The ones I use stay between 3.78 and 3.65V and when I want I charge them in the pocket, and nothing beats that.