I was amused to read Margaret Hamburgs" post to the Wall Street Journal. She was touting the FDA as a world class organization. The one statement that gave me the laugh for the day was her bragging about the "new Transparency Initiative" being implemented by the FDA.
Margaret Hamburg writing to the WSJ
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the 1st step to transarency will be letting the public know that the foxes are guarding the hen house....
oh, I would agree they are "world-class" all right. I just do not think they would be pleased to know how I would continue the phrase....
This post (admittedly) is not for everyone and directed at those who are focused on research.
The topic of this thread (in part) is transparency of the FDA and to me that means Truth.
So...Everything about the FDA is "On Topic"
Bare with me...Unlike many, I am a relative Noob in the Political Advocacy arena.
It’s no secret that I’m not the president of the FDA fan club. However,
I’m an advocate of the truth…Regardless of the source.
Correct me if I'm wrong...my understanding is the company that submits a drug for approval does the research, testing and supplies their own data to the FDA for their review. The FDA then will make a decision based on the data submitted by the company which wants the drug approved.
I have been a follower of Attorney Jonathan Emord's Health Freedom fighting efforts for a long time. However, this is a discussion group and I'm not closed minded to those with different opinions.
I offer the following interview for review and discussion.
Obviously only those "seriously" interested in this subject
will take the time to listen to the entire interview.
Instead of duplicating my post from another thread...
I will just point you to the post with the interview
It would be beneficial (of course) to limit replies to this thread.
Teaser clip: (Part 2 section 3): Click Here
The Interview...Scroll down to post #5: Click Here
More information...
F.D.A. HYPOCRISY: Click Here
GLOBAL FREEDOM FIGHTERS: Click Here
Archive...several on-line publications by Attorney Emord: Click Here
Your thoughts and discussion…
The topic of this thread (in part) is transparency of the FDA and to me that means Truth.
So...Everything about the FDA is "On Topic"
Bare with me...Unlike many, I am a relative Noob in the Political Advocacy arena.
It’s no secret that I’m not the president of the FDA fan club. However,
I’m an advocate of the truth…Regardless of the source.
Correct me if I'm wrong...my understanding is the company that submits a drug for approval does the research, testing and supplies their own data to the FDA for their review. The FDA then will make a decision based on the data submitted by the company which wants the drug approved.
I have been a follower of Attorney Jonathan Emord's Health Freedom fighting efforts for a long time. However, this is a discussion group and I'm not closed minded to those with different opinions.
I offer the following interview for review and discussion.
Obviously only those "seriously" interested in this subject
will take the time to listen to the entire interview.
Instead of duplicating my post from another thread...
I will just point you to the post with the interview
It would be beneficial (of course) to limit replies to this thread.
Teaser clip: (Part 2 section 3): Click Here
The Interview...Scroll down to post #5: Click Here
More information...
F.D.A. HYPOCRISY: Click Here
GLOBAL FREEDOM FIGHTERS: Click Here
Archive...several on-line publications by Attorney Emord: Click Here
Your thoughts and discussion…
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I would not be surprised if the P.R. department at the FDA carefully included the phrase "world class" to promote one of the provisions of the newly passed Food Safety act. The FDA will be opening up offices across the world to regulate the safety of foods that are exported to the U.S. There is something not quite right about one country's regulatory agency flexing its muscles within the boundaries of another country.
The other thing that is very frightening about the new Food Safety Act is that it provides the FDA with all the power required to devastate the effectiveness of vitamins / supplements by limiting the dosage. I give you as an example, Folic Acid. The FDA fights strongly against any mention of how various nutrients can prevent disease in product labels, ads, and information disseminated to the public. In fact, they kept under wraps for decades the fact that folic acid prevents birth defects, but now recommend that pregnant women take the supplement.
Folic acid also has been proven by research to be a strong preventived against colon cancer. Here is some information on the subject.
The FDA versus Folic Acid - Share The Wealth
The current Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) is 400 mcg (0.4 mg). I could see the FDA proclaiming that no higher dosages would be available. Yet, when my husband was diagnosed with cancer of the larynx, I found a small study conducted in Italy showing that high doses of up to 15 mg per day helped to prevent a common occurrence -- regrowth of the tumor. It took me a long time to track down a higher dosage, but I finally did find capsules that provide 5 mg. per day. He has been taking one of these for 2-1/2 years and has not experienced a return of the tumor (knock on wood!).
So I can foresee the FDA rearranging things so that he would need to take 12 or 13 of the 400 mcg. pills/capsules to get the daily dose he needs, and those Italian patients might need to take as many as 38!
The other thing that is very frightening about the new Food Safety Act is that it provides the FDA with all the power required to devastate the effectiveness of vitamins / supplements by limiting the dosage. I give you as an example, Folic Acid. The FDA fights strongly against any mention of how various nutrients can prevent disease in product labels, ads, and information disseminated to the public. In fact, they kept under wraps for decades the fact that folic acid prevents birth defects, but now recommend that pregnant women take the supplement.
Folic acid also has been proven by research to be a strong preventived against colon cancer. Here is some information on the subject.
The FDA versus Folic Acid - Share The Wealth
The current Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) is 400 mcg (0.4 mg). I could see the FDA proclaiming that no higher dosages would be available. Yet, when my husband was diagnosed with cancer of the larynx, I found a small study conducted in Italy showing that high doses of up to 15 mg per day helped to prevent a common occurrence -- regrowth of the tumor. It took me a long time to track down a higher dosage, but I finally did find capsules that provide 5 mg. per day. He has been taking one of these for 2-1/2 years and has not experienced a return of the tumor (knock on wood!).
So I can foresee the FDA rearranging things so that he would need to take 12 or 13 of the 400 mcg. pills/capsules to get the daily dose he needs, and those Italian patients might need to take as many as 38!
Food safety bill invokes Codex harmonization
grants FDA authority to police food safety of foreign nations
Article: Click Here
"We The People" could send emails, sign petitions, and write letters
(pause to allow me time to stop laughing) Food for thought (pun intended)
For those who have read all the articles, listened to the interview,
and watched the videos on this thread...
Anyone have any suggestions about what can be done...?
Other than bending over and grabbing our ankles and yelling
"Thank-you Mother may I have Another"
Or...is asking that question a Thread Killer?
and watched the videos on this thread...
Anyone have any suggestions about what can be done...?
Other than bending over and grabbing our ankles and yelling
"Thank-you Mother may I have Another"
Or...is asking that question a Thread Killer?
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Although the FDA is on the wrong side of public health by trying to ban e-cigarettes and by refusing to inform smokers that e-cigarettes, smokeless tobacco products and NRT products are all far less hazardous alternatives to cigarettes, I strongly agree with the points made in Margaret Hamburg's letter to the Wall Street Journal.
Just because a government agency errors on some issues doesn't mean that all decisions made by the agency are wrong.
Just because a government agency errors on some issues doesn't mean that all decisions made by the agency are wrong.
While I agree with you most of the time, This time i have to disagree. My reasoning is because when a government agency is being blantently(sp) bought off by a big company, or design their way of regulating to a point that a big company prospers while small companies fall by the way side, there is something inherently wrong with the agency or the system by which the agency was created.
The biggest problem that I see, is that while the Idea behind the FDA was a sound Idea, and something that is needed the payment system for the regulation was aloud to be corrupted and/or was flawed from day one of planning. The way it stands right now as was pointed out many times in the past. The cost for the testings to acquire approval is the same no matter how big your company is. So if i am only making a million dollars a year, after testing I have made no profit. But if you are making 10 million dollars a year, the loss of say 500,000 is not so big a loss. Now I know these numbers are off, I am just pulling them out of my head. But the reasoning is sound, if the FDA wanted to really be on the side of the people, and really wanted more companies to have to prove they are safe. Then maybe they should consider a payment by percentage of company profits at the time of application. Yes something could be proven safe and then they make lots and lots of money, but that is not the point, the point is ease of access to testing at time of/or before sale. If they did make a .... ton of money then any new items the testing would cost more.
But at this time they are not doing this, they are doing one size fits all, and initial size is XXXL and everyone else who is just to small has to suck it up, and not get approval. This makes them looked biased, this makes them look like they are in the pocket of BT and BP, and why it looks that way all their decisions are going to be suspect good ones or not.
When I was in the Army my squad leader taught us one mistake can destroy a 1000 good deeds, and that is the case here.
No argument.
However, the FDA really doesn't have a wonderful track record on many levels and
no one that I know has stepped forward claiming (for example) Johnathan Emord's
record is flawed and what he publishes (in print and on the web) is not true.
I (and many others) are very concerned and fearful regarding the future of our food and suppliments
now the FDA will be in charge of that just like drugs. Total censorship of health information thing
as well as GMO and much more.
However, 2 thing are painfully obvious
1 There's nothing we can do about it
2 Time will tell
Once we catch them lying to us, how do we tell when they are being truthful?
Mmmm... Good Question
Why don't we do some quick Internet searches
in hopes to answer that question
Google: "FDA tells the truth"
Google: "FDA lies"
Well...Doesn't Lying go hand in hand with Corruption?
Let see what the following searches reveal
Google: "FDA corruption"
YouTube: "FDA corruption"
Mmmm... is it possible that We The People are nothing but "Cash Cows"
and the FDA (at the very least) has some issues with telling us the truth?
My thoughts exactly, Elaine. The only answer I can come up with is that we can't tell.
Interesting reading:
Here's the link: Survey: FDA Scientists (2006) | Union of Concerned Scientists
While there's been a change of administration since this survey was conducted, I'm not at all convinced much else has changed.
There's no way to tell when they are lying to us.
Just because there has been a change of guard really (in of itself) means nothing.
Fool me once...Shame on You
Fool me twice...Shame Me
Trust and Respect must be Earned.
If they would announce they will drop their blanket censorship on all health claim benefits
to protect the Drug Industry's Monopolies...Well, that would be a step in the right direction.
My friends… "PLEASE" watch to the ENTIRE video
Truth is Truth regardless of the source
Yes...It is On Topic about FDA transparency
as you will find out IF you watch the Entire video
1st part of the video...very informative regarding vaccinations
however, starting at 8min 30sec the discussion starts on the Food Safety law
and the FDA involvement here and around the world!
Video: Click Here
"The agencies blatantly Lie
They don't even care about telling the truth
The don't even care if they they get caught in a lie
They just keep lying because most people keep buying it"
Your thoughts and comments????
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Source home page: NaturalNews.com
Truth is Truth regardless of the source
Yes...It is On Topic about FDA transparency
as you will find out IF you watch the Entire video
1st part of the video...very informative regarding vaccinations
however, starting at 8min 30sec the discussion starts on the Food Safety law
and the FDA involvement here and around the world!
Video: Click Here
"The agencies blatantly Lie
They don't even care about telling the truth
The don't even care if they they get caught in a lie
They just keep lying because most people keep buying it"
Your thoughts and comments????
_______________________________
Source home page: NaturalNews.com
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Found the full text of the bill as passed: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr2751enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr2751enr.pdf
Page 82, SEC. 308 - FOREIGN OFFICES OF THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
Page 83, SEC. 401 - FUNDING FOR FOOD SAFETY
Didn't the National Debt top $14 Trillion this morning???
Page 82, SEC. 308 - FOREIGN OFFICES OF THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
Page 83, SEC. 401 - FUNDING FOR FOOD SAFETY
Didn't the National Debt top $14 Trillion this morning???
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