Maryland about to ban sale of electronic cigarettes

[DC2]

Bill, why IS the FDA trying to ban them then?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Bill, why IS the FDA trying to ban them then?

The FDA's position is that the E-cig is a drug deliver device system and needs FDA approval before being sold and marketed. It is that simple. They took the same stance with Nicotine water, and lollypops, etc.


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[DC2]

The FDA's position is that the E-cig is a drug deliver device system and needs FDA approval before being sold and marketed. It is that simple. They took the same stance with Nicotine water, and lollypops, etc.

So you're saying the FDA is just doing their job, and that they sincerely believe they are doing the right thing, and that they are willing to purposely mislead the public in the pursuit of their objective without actually having any agenda, and that they don't care how many people go back to smoking cigarettes?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

So you're saying the FDA is just doing their job, and that they sincerely believe they are doing the right thing, and that they are willing to purposely mislead the public in the pursuit of their objective without actually having any agenda, and that they don't care how many people go back to smoking cigarettes?

Why do I find that so hard to believe?

A lot of things that are simple are hard to believe DC2--the FDA has much bigger fish to fry. Look to the Anti's pushing the FDA now with groups like ASH that are the ones with the wrong motives.


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[Tom09]

Good news.
The Maryland bill 720 died today in the Health and Government Operations Committee.

... and 3 vs. 19 was not even close! Therefore, there seems a very good chance that US users could well halt the pending prohibition in New York, Illinois and California. There's an outright impressive track record of repeatedly stopping such (IMO) ill-conceived laws (California 2009, Utah 2010, Maryland 2010) - every time when users happened to make themselves well heard to their legislators.

 

[basic_atheist]

Good news.
The Maryland bill 720 died today in the Health and Government Operations Committee.

basic_athiest wrote:

I still think BT and BP is behind it all.

While the drug companies have heavily funded many anti-tobacco groups that have been advocating e-cigarette sales and usage bans (e.g. CTFK, ACS, AHA, ALA, ASH, Legacy), I'm not aware that any tobacco companies are lobbying to ban (or are funding others to lobby to ban) e-cigarette sales or usage.

In fact, tobacco companies want SE to win the SE v FDA lawsuit, and want the FDA to reclassify and regulate e-cigarettes as tobacco products. That way, the tobacco companies can also begin to market e-cigarettes, which will sharply increase sales and usage of e-cigarettes.

Yet another reason to support the AAPHP petitions to the FDA.

Good... that means there ARE a few people who cannot be bought or favored with pocket change and trade-off's.

And of course BT would want e-cigs to be reclassified, but a good delay on the current market would also benefit them with their new product yet to be released. They have their hand in the cookie jar, but they don't want to pull one out yet until they are ready to savor it properly. BP wants a piece of the action too, and they still could if they play their cards right.

Anyway, that's what I meant. Sorry if the sentence was too short to follow. I was in a hurry at the time.

 

[telsie]

So you're saying the FDA is just doing their job, and that they sincerely believe they are doing the right thing, and that they are willing to purposely mislead the public in the pursuit of their objective without actually having any agenda, and that they don't care how many people go back to smoking cigarettes?

I don't believe the FDA is in bed with tobacco and pharmaceutical companies. I think they're just doing their job. But that doesn't make them right nor their tactics pure. Take that ecig analysis report last year, for example. They didn't lie in that report, but it's quite misleading. So they're spinning things to sway opinion and gain momentum for their viewpoint.

 

[Our House]

Take that ecig analysis report last year, for example. They didn't lie in that report, but it's quite misleading.

No, the FDA lied.

Ignoring the levels of toxicity makes everything a human carcinogen.

When you redefine terms to your liking, then there's no such thing as a lie -- just various degrees of truth. The FDA unfairly held ecigs to a higher standard than currently approved products, and it lied in order to do so.

 

[sentrarob]

You watch...once they get this taxed it wont be "Dangerous" anymore.

OF COURSE; WE ALL KNOW IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY!!

 

[Janetda]

I feel that as soon as we start using statements such as it's all about the money or it's BP or BT we look like uneducated screwballs to those in power. I know how frustrating it is, I do it too. But when we use those kinds of things in our letters and comments, then we just get ignored. It really doesn't matter what their motivations are. We have to play the game.