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Not trying to be rude,, if you don't already know a safe Ω range to use best to put the mech away until you understand what you're doing and why.
In the hands of the inexperienced mechanicals can become dangerous in the blink of an eye, they have no safety features or protections other than the one between the users ears.
An attempt to answer your question; Folks inexperienced with mechanicals should stay around 50% of a cells CDR until you gain experience.
So, no lower than .28Ω using an authentic true 30a CDR cell.
In the hands of the inexperienced mechanicals can become dangerous in the blink of an eye, they have no safety features or protections other than the one between the users ears.
An attempt to answer your question; Folks inexperienced with mechanicals should stay around 50% of a cells CDR until you gain experience.
So, no lower than .28Ω using an authentic true 30a CDR cell.
Completely agree with Elvis, If you have to ask the question, then you admittedly do not understand Ohm's law or how it is computed..The other issue here is his statement not to be taken lightly regarding what is stated on the wrap of the battery. There are so many re-wrappers of batteries out there and many overstate the rating of the batteries they sell in order to increase sales of their product. Please do NOT be fooled by this, especially in regards to Mech mods.
I would suggest your friend really getting familiar with Ohm's law and another member of our community named Mooch.. He performs independent testing of cells and debunks or confirms battery ratings.
I suggest to be completely informed before pursuing the world of mechanical mods as your safety can never be overstated.
I would suggest your friend really getting familiar with Ohm's law and another member of our community named Mooch.. He performs independent testing of cells and debunks or confirms battery ratings.
I suggest to be completely informed before pursuing the world of mechanical mods as your safety can never be overstated.
I am well informed about Ω law and i also use steam engine for more informations but im asking because my first time having a mech also my friend's so im asking here cause i know that most members have experience with mech's. Also the ijoy has 30A cd so if i built .2 ohm coil the amps are 21 according to the steam engine.
Which ijoy 20700, the 4 or 5 leg version?
Drawing 21a from an authentic true 30a CDR cell would be considered in a 'safe' range for someone new to mechanicals, drawing 21a from a less capable version or counterfeit cell wouldn't be safe.
Using a mech safely isn't at all just about resistance and amp draw, there are many other things to be aware of & consider when using a mech.
Drawing 21a from an authentic true 30a CDR cell would be considered in a 'safe' range for someone new to mechanicals, drawing 21a from a less capable version or counterfeit cell wouldn't be safe.
Using a mech safely isn't at all just about resistance and amp draw, there are many other things to be aware of & consider when using a mech.
i will be using the 5 leg that has 30A according to mooch charts
Did you read the rest of my response?
If not I'll do it again...
Drawing 21a from an authentic true 30a CDR cell would be considered in a 'safe' range for someone new to mechanicals, drawing 21a from a less capable version or counterfeit cell wouldn't be safe.
Using a mech safely isn't at all just about resistance and amp draw, there are many other things to be aware of & consider when using a mechanical.
I wouldn't recommend .2Ω, as I said in my first response, I would recommend .28Ω or higher until you understand what you're doing and why.
Should be fine?, no way for me to be certain of your capabilities, understanding of basic battery safety practices or any of the basics of using a mechanical safely.
Are you certain your battery came from a reputable source, do you understand re wrappers can & frequently do change what cell is used beneath their wrap without notice or concern for end user safety...
Like I said, until you fully understand what you're doing and why, are confident in your own abilities & experience level, I'd recommend staying 50% under any cells CDR, which when using a 30a CDR cell is .28Ω.
While that may sound extremely conservative some folks gain the necessary experience & confidence in an hour or so, some struggle for weeks, or longer.
Should be fine?, no way for me to be certain of your capabilities, understanding of basic battery safety practices or any of the basics of using a mechanical safely.
Are you certain your battery came from a reputable source, do you understand re wrappers can & frequently do change what cell is used beneath their wrap without notice or concern for end user safety...
Like I said, until you fully understand what you're doing and why, are confident in your own abilities & experience level, I'd recommend staying 50% under any cells CDR, which when using a 30a CDR cell is .28Ω.
While that may sound extremely conservative some folks gain the necessary experience & confidence in an hour or so, some struggle for weeks, or longer.
In a perfect circuit with zero voltage drop and building to draw only 20A on a 30A rated battery, your build should be no lower than this.
I would take Elvis' advice and build higher for your first few and keep it above at least .25 until you get a feel for it. It's always better to build safe.
I would take Elvis' advice and build higher for your first few and keep it above at least .25 until you get a feel for it. It's always better to build safe.
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Is the 4.2v reading accurate, or is more likely to be nearer 3.7v which would mean the Amp draw would drop slightly
I mentioned that was a perfect circuit with no drop. It would be closer to 3.4v-3.7v in reality.
Thanks for that mate, I've only been vaping on a mech for a couple of month so I'm still super cautious and keep my ohms above 0.2, but I'm finding the need for an harder hit. I'm using the Wismec machina which isn't a true hybrid mod, what's best heavy wire more wraps or lighter wire less wraps
The more wire mass you have, the longer the "ramp up" time to fire the coil.
Theory is the more surface area your coil has (more mass), the more vapor you can make. However, there comes a point of diminishing returns and other undesireable side effects such as the longer ramp up time, draining your batteries faster, and possibly misusing/abusing your batteries.
If you're finding the need for a harder hit when using a mech, my suggestion is to put away the mech and use a high wattage regulated mod.
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I know what you mean, I get a more powerful vape on my Gen3 and gnome tank, but as you know yourself vaping as now become an hobby, I love experimenting with my own coils and vaping in its purest form
I don't mean to be mean here, but if you have such a working knowledge of Ohm's law, the smart thing to do would be to have done the calculations YOURSELF (and shown your work) and then requested feedback. It really is the best way to learn. If you know ohm's law, well USE IT. It's fine to say "I've calculated THIS, this is my battery, this is it's known RATING, this is where I bought it from) and etc. That demonstrates an understanding that MORE people are going to feel comfortable with signing on to not "what build should I put on my mech?"
That question gets people (rightfully) scared-- for you.
Do you also know what it takes to clean and maintain a mech?? (AGAIN, SHOW YOUR WORK).
Showing your work with mechs is really essential.. YOU need to be confident in YOUR build NOT someone else's. No offense.
Anna
That question gets people (rightfully) scared-- for you.
Do you also know what it takes to clean and maintain a mech?? (AGAIN, SHOW YOUR WORK).
Showing your work with mechs is really essential.. YOU need to be confident in YOUR build NOT someone else's. No offense.
Anna
Depending on how you define 'harder hit' it can also be created by using higher Pg % or nic mg/ml.
My favorite build is 2 strands twisted usually 28ga anywhere between .64Ω ~ 1.2Ω with 50/50 3mg/ml nic, gives a very nice/strong hit.
Also never comes close to pushing any cell I use.
No offence taken, but I do consider my ... properly chewed. But sometimes you have to ask dumb questions to gain knowledge, you have to start somewhere I'm not claiming to be an expert on ohms law, I use an app but I keep my mod clean and I look after my batteries
Personally, I feel like the days of using mech mods to cloud chase should be behind us. Years ago, that's what needed to be done. If you want to blow righteous cloudz and impress your buddies, go get a dna250 or something.
Just a theory based on my own experience, today's mech users are more concerned with flavor and a certain kind of vape that has a purity to it. It's not about beetch slapping our batteries or seeing who can fit the most metal under the top cap. It's about finding a happy balance between good battery life, good flavor and enough warmth and vapor to satisfy ourselves. My happy place is a 24ga SS spaced single coil in a Narda or NarCA on a mechanical squonker. I can vape a 7 ml bottle and my battery is always right at 3.7v when I refill and swap my battery . Im not close to stressing anything out and I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
If I wanted to blast huge clouds, I'd do it with a good regulated mod...it's 2018, after all.
Just a theory based on my own experience, today's mech users are more concerned with flavor and a certain kind of vape that has a purity to it. It's not about beetch slapping our batteries or seeing who can fit the most metal under the top cap. It's about finding a happy balance between good battery life, good flavor and enough warmth and vapor to satisfy ourselves. My happy place is a 24ga SS spaced single coil in a Narda or NarCA on a mechanical squonker. I can vape a 7 ml bottle and my battery is always right at 3.7v when I refill and swap my battery . Im not close to stressing anything out and I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
If I wanted to blast huge clouds, I'd do it with a good regulated mod...it's 2018, after all.
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