mechanical mods, dangerous?

[Stosh]

....My question is this, is there any mod, (period, regulated or not) that does not have a vent hole?

Maybe i'm jaded, but fire shooting out is dangerous, but "explosion"?

In the past there were mods without vent holes, and IMR batteries weren't even around. With the glut of fasttech mech mods being designed and shipped, I would not be surprised to find some without vents or inadequate vents.

 

[Baditude]

And as rudimentary as it is, there are some mechanical mods without a collapsable hot spring in the battery compartment. These should be used in the case when a battery gets hot and the spring collapses at a certain temperature to break the electrical circuit of the battery...hopefully in time to prevent thermal runaway of the battery.

A mech mod has hardly any safety features to begin with. To leave out drilling some vent holes or the hot spring, or both leaves a mech mod totally without any safety features at all. That's very poor design IMHO.

 

[Stosh]

And even with vent holes and a hot spring a fuse such as...TheVapeSafe.com is a good idea.

 

[blaine0512]

Ya know, this sounds like more of the anti-vaping propaganda I've seen so much of since I joined the forums here. The site is becoming rotten with it, and you are quite obviously NOT on our side. Welcome to my ignore list.

What in the world are you talking about? We're not in high school here. I've been vaping since black friday of last year and I love it! But please forgive me for wanting some legit info and different opions from fellow vapers (vaporers??) about the whole mechanical mods exploding. My husband and I have 2 small children that are always in our laps or sitting next to use while we're vaping and my husband was looking into getting a mech. mod so you're darn right I don't want him having one if there is a high or even moderate risk of it blowing up. I'm trying to educate myself here not start a dang war. Geez get over it and get over yourself. You didn't have to read nor post to this thread. You blew this way out of proportion and you should feel like a fool. Geez some of ya'll take this whole vaping life to the extreme!

 

[Chewy-bot]

Hot spring: i can extrapolate what it is and how it works. Is there some place where one can buy? or is this a theoretical device that may or may not work?

 

[Cloud Junky]

Seems like every time I turn on the news there is a story about someone's mechanical EXPLODING in their face blowing their teeth out and what not. My best friend's husband has a top of the line mechanical mod and they asked me to take hit to see the difference but they warned me not to hold the button too long because it would explode! So naturally I was a little apprehensive but still wanted to see what all the hype is about so I hit (but very quickly lol) and it was great! Although it it wonderfully and all do you think it's worth the risk? Do you think mechanical mods should even be outlawed or recalled for until the manufacturers to build them more safely?

I think before you put a potentially explosive device to your face you should do several things:

1. Research your coil building and battery capacity

2. Don't vape on cheap mods

3. Inspect your equipment daily

4. Handle all weapons as if they are loaded weapons!

Simple precautions will limit the odds. I am not saying a battery cannot fail but having a device explode in your face is due to more than a flaw in an item it is possibly due to not following the four things I suggested.

 

[blaine0512]

Lack of respect for just about anything a consumer can use can be "dangerous".

Don't know what you are doing then don't mess with it.

I don't want a mech, I'm more than content with my mvp but my husband was looking into the mechs and i told NO lol I'm just looking for some legit info and MATURE opions and personal experiences to maybe put me at ease so my husband can get one. We have 2 small children (1 and 4) that are always on our laps or sitting right next to us all the time while we vape and our youngest likes to try and get our mods and press the buttons and what not (but he's never successful bc we take it from him instantly) and worst case scenario, my husband has a mech (and he doesn't know much if anything about them) and one or both of our boys is in his lap and his hitting it and it explodes. I'm really not understanding why these folks are getting so defensive and upset. I never said anything horrible about mechs.

 

[blaine0512]

That is an over-reaction and not necessary. The OP's question is a perfectly legitimate one, as I pointed out in my response to the question. I will admit that the presentation of the question was needlessly over-emphasized with large red letters.

The batteries that we use in our mods are quite powerful. If the wrong batteries are used or abused, and safe battery habits are not followed, a battery can indeed explode in a mechanical mod. A novice like the above OP may not know about this information.

Your response was very combative and served the community in no helpful manner. Education is key, not name-calling those who come here to learn about safety. Attack the post, not the poster.

Thank you so much!

 

[Chewy-bot]

Maybe in your situation it might be best to avoid mechanical mods. With kids even the unthinkable is possible, better safe than sorry. from what i have been gathering here a good quality regulated mod is every bit as good or better than a mechanical mod, And quite possibly just ANOTHER level of safety.

 

[blaine0512]

Funny, the only stories I've seen of malfunctioning ecigs have been ego twist looking devices. Have yet to hear of a mech mod exploding. Of course, like anything else, if abused a mech mod could potentially be dangerous....and there's certainly enough stupid in the population that it is bound to happen.
Been using Mech's for over a year and still have all of my face, teeth and my house has not yet burned down.

Something tells me this is just a troll post.....

... is a troll post? I can assure I am just looking for some advice, personal experiences, and facts about mechs bc my husband was wanting to get one and we have 2 small children and I'd like to rest assured knowing that IF my husband had a mech and he were holding one of our children that thing isn't going to explode and potentially harm my children. Some of ya'll on here really need to get over it and get over yourselves and stop with the holier than thou attitude. Im some what new to vaping and a dang newborn when it comes to forums and blogs. I didn't ask you to read my post nor comment on it nor did was this intended for immature people like yourself to respond to it with rude, unnecessary, and sarcastic responses. I don't think an issue like this should be taken lightly.

 

[Stosh]

What in the world are you talking about? We're not in high school here. ....

Ummm, well if you consider we have geeks and nerds, along with class clowns and drama queens, I can see some similarity.......and the class only have a substitute teacher most days.....

Just pay attention to the geeks answers, they studied for today's test...

 

[blaine0512]

This post seems a bit odd.. Every time you turn on the news you see one of these stories huh? Do you watch the news once every few years?

[MODERATED]!! I didn't mean it literally about every time I turn on the news I see a story bla bla bla but I have seen quite a few stories on my LOCAL news station about it and Lord knows every time I get on facebook my friends are posting all these news articles to my wall about the dangers of vaping and most of them have been about them exploding.

 

[blaine0512]

Mechanicals are as safe as you the user allows them to be. Use safe chemistry IMR batteries. Also, mechanicals are designed to use the pure voltage from batteries, not from circuit boards like regulated devices. Use common sense, invest in a good charger, batteries that can handle the load(resistance/ohms) you are putting on it and make sure you utilize the safety rings are whatever on the device. When using your batteries and you have to sub ohm under .8 ohms, invest on 30 amp rated batteries. Also invest in a cheap multimeter and test the batteries to make sure they are not over drained.

I work at a B&M vape shop and have some younger kids who frequent the establishment. They are of smoking age mind you but completely stupid with battery safety. Throwing all kinds of whatever coil in there atty because Rip Trippers says its the greatest thing yet in vaping. They use quad nano coil this or that, never use an ohm meter, never check their batteries and use them the instance they come off their cheapo chargers. Complain its not firing right then I go to check it and their batteries and mods are getting super hot. Even after educating them in safety or using a fuse int heir mechs, they are still pushin what are clearly 5-10 amp rated batteries and easily taxing them with 15-22 amp loads easily. I once had to ask them to leave because I didn't want to have to be reaponsible(even though legally I'm not) due to having a vented 18650 blow up in our lounge area.

As others have already said, practice safe procedures and your mech is no less safe than your cell phone or laptop, which have been known to blow up far more than ecigs. When dealing with lithium batteries, be it in vape gear, cell phones or high end torches(mag lights or astronomer laser pointers) there will always be a minimal chance of the battery going into thermal runaway. When pushing a battery to its limits and using faulty cheap Chinese knock off chargers are using chargers that either don't have circuit cutoffs or output the non recommended voltage, then bad things can happen. That is why everything that runs on batteries ALWAYS has a disclaimer in regards to ONLY use the intended batteries and charger.

On another note, never have I seen such thing ps in the news other than the Florida man, who clearly didnt get the clue to NEVER stack batteries in a mech. I have heard more issues with cheap knockoff egos rather mechs, and they always seem to be from some younger idiots charging them off of cheap HongKong made eBay ipad/iPhone chargers that had shorted out sometime ago.

I'm new to all of this.....sorry but what do you mean when you say "stack" batteries

 

[DrFritz]

Mods exploding? I have only seen batteries explode because they were thrown into a fire. If something does go wrong its going to be a loud pop but never a bang. When the batteries pop they are usually to hot to hold anyways so yeah. Just be careful make sure your battery is fit for the ohms you want. Also don't buy ....ty batteries. I use a VTC 5 in my mod and its perfect for my .5 ohm coils.

 

[Munnin]

Exactly how it sounds, putting two batteries into the mech mod on top of each other. Mechs like a lot of regulated devices uses replaceable lithium li-ion batteries like the 18650. Stacking is by putting two batteries into the tube on top of each other, usually with the polarity in same direction. Some regulated devices like the Vamo are designed to do such a thing by stacking two 18350 batteries on top of each other, but mechs are not meant to be used due to the lack of circuit regularity. Stacking batteries in a mech is HIGHLY dangerous by creating essentially a unstable shorted fuse via the batteries.

it also goes with knowledge in battery chemistry, even if you take both batteries off the charger at the same time, one may be a .01 difference in voltage leading to an unstable circuit. That also would be from what I gather doubling voltage output to the atomizer while doing nothing to double amp limitations, further putting a heavier load on the battery.

 

[blaine0512]

The one thing that honestly makes me sad is that when I started vaping, this community was really nice and helpful. There were some people who shared their experience with me and I have since; passed that information to others along with my own experience. Now, I read a lot of posts to threads that totally dismiss someone's question because they assume that they just have to be THE MAN, here to plot and tear down the vaping community. Having "tact" or phrasing a statement so that it is universally accepted is not everyone's strong suit but I have yet to see one of these infiltrators use information shared here against us.

This question is legitimate and each of us should want to make sure that newbies understand what they are doing. Whether it is one time, two times or a hundred times out of a population of 300 million; when it is time for the government to decide what to do with e-cigs, one is all they will need for their argument. We should try to make sure that everyone safely understands what they are doing.

I agree that cars, laptops and cell phones can be equally/more dangerous but the difference here is that most people I talk to about vaping; some that do vape and others that don't.........don't have the first clue how this stuff works because it is not as common as a car, laptop or cell phone. I take the responsibility of someone asking my advice seriously because their success with vaping and their safety is in my hands.........Mr. Lebowski asked me to repeat that Dude, "her life is in your hands"

In my opinion, if I am right and there are no ANTZ here to take us down or if your right and the OP is a plant; when legitimate new people read others' questions or other newbies being hammered........are they going to come here for advice the next time or go to a uneducated B&M store clerk (not all of them) or worse...............guess?

I don't know ANTZ means or what you mean you were saying we didn't know if the OP was a "plant" but if you go back to the first few pages and read my responses to very rude and immature responses you will see why I posted this. I have never been on a forum before so maybe I could have and should have worded this post slightly differently. I'm just going off what I've heard from friends, fellow vapers (vaporers????), the news, and facebook. All I wanted out of this was a little advice, some legit answers to my questions, opinions to questions I asked in my OP, and some assurance bc my husband is really wanting a mech and we have 2 small children.

 

[edyle]

I have an MVP 2.0 Shine Edition which I'm sure you all know it takes the universal charger for most cell phones. Is it dangerous for me to use my cell phone charger to charge it or should I souly be using the charger that came with it? I know it's totally off topic but I read that using the wrong charger could make your mod explode. Like I stated above, I'm very new to the vaping world. I've only been vaping since last black friday.

The charger for the MVP is builtin; it's just a usb cable you need to plug in to a usb port.

 

[DrFritz]

Exactly how it sounds, putting two batteries into the mech mod on top of each other. Mechs like a lot of regulated devices uses replaceable lithium li-ion batteries like the 18650. Stacking is by putting two batteries into the tube on top of each other, usually with the polarity in same direction. Some regulated devices like the Vamo are designed to do such a thing by stacking two 18350 batteries on top of each other, but mechs are not meant to be used due to the lack of circuit regularity. Stacking batteries in a mech is HIGHLY dangerous by creating essentially a unstable shorted fuse via the batteries.

Plus why would anyone need two batteries in the same mod?

 

[blaine0512]

Are you still just thinking about getting into e-cigs, or are you already vaping and, if so, what are you using now?

You'll get plenty of help on the newcomers forum if you have questions about e-liquids or gear, and there are some good ECF resources for newcomers: 5058-10-advancing-up-vaping-ladder-egos-mods.htm

-- Glenn

I've been vaping since black friday of last year. I started out with a smoktech twist, then kanger tech evod, some off name brand one that I bought bc it was leopard print lol, and now I'm using the iTaste MVP 2.0 Shine Edition and I LOOOOOOOVE it

 

[Munnin]

Some devices that are designed to use utilize stacked batteries gets a "small" voltage boost by using the two batteries, but from what I have read and researched not by very much. I think it comes down to curious minds via experimentation without basic knowledge of electricity. I went to college of electrical engineering. Sadly, I what one could be called a drop out, but I like to think I know at least some stuff to get me by to translate it to my vaping. Experimentation is one thing...carelessness is another.