mechanical mods v regulated mods

[pbetter]

Thanks guys for all your info, I may look into a mech mod they don't seem so daunting anymore
and like broodmance says it may be a good idea to invest in one just in case the day comes that we are forced to use one

 

[edyle]

Iv been looking at the tube style mechanical mods and they all look really good, fantastic designs BUT im a bit scared to put one near my mouth as far as I can see they are pure raw power that cant be controlled, how easy are they to use?

a mech mod has no power. It is just a container.
The power comes from the battery.
use a dropin kick module.

 

[BobbySavage]

just make sure to look up and understand battery safety, ohms law and amp limits, you could be essentially making a pipe bomb and placing it next to your face.

I am not trying to scare you but, they do command respect.

Taste Your Juice | BATTERY INFORMATION

here is a good place to start

 

[pbetter]

Thanks BobbySavage I understand what your saying and I do have a respect for the mech mod that's why iv not gone headlong into getting one, I will check out your link and will learn as much as I can before I take the plunge

 

[pbetter]

Just had a quick look at the drop in kick modules, doesn't that make a mech mod sort of regulated?

 

[BobbySavage]

so long as you understand what youre doing youll be fine

 

[NealBJr]

I use regulated for the "all day vape"... I use a Sigeli 100... not for it's 100W capability, but for it's dual battery capability. It is a grab and go device. for short times, I take a cloupor mini. It's a very compact device, but I can say it can reliably last a few hours.. It's much more portable, and I even fashioned a belt holster out of a cell phone case for it. It is my "on the go device"...

For the times I want to vape hard, or I'm rebuilding my tanks, I go mechanical.. I call it "going vape commando.. no underwea..err... under-powered vape". I use safe batteries, and never go below .2 ohms. I am thinking of getting a dual battery mechanical to make it even safer, but I'll still stay at .2 ohms.

 

[NealBJr]

Just had a quick look at the drop in kick modules, doesn't that make a mech mod sort of regulated?

Yup. It does. A kick turns it in to a 12w regulated mod. However, it does not have an auto-shutoff feature that most VV/VW have nowdays. Usually it's limited to 5amps 12 watts 1.2-6 ohms.


They really should make an updated kick module.

 

[Panorama911]

False for our Li-ion batteries.
Actually, running batteries dry shorten their life.

I guess I should have worded it better...In my case my device cuts out the use at a particular voltage, yet in reality the battery still has power remaining so it is not completely spent. I just assumed most devices were like this, my error.

 

[NancyR]

I guess I should have worded it better...In my case my device cuts out the use at a particular voltage, yet in reality the battery still has power remaining so it is not completely spent. I just assumed most devices were like this, my error.

Actually most mods don't cut off til the battery is lower than what we should be taking them, while still on the safe side it does shorten over all life of the cell.

 

[Panorama911]

Actually most mods don't cut off til the battery is lower than what we should be taking them, while still on the safe side it does shorten over all life of the cell.

Based on the OP subject I was speaking in regards to regulated and I have 5 different ones all react the same, battery will shut down @ 3.4v. I cannot speak for mechanical, I take it they are different in this regard.
Just posting what my experience has been and I still have good battery life going on 3.5 years is all.

 

[NancyR]

Based on the OP subject I was speaking in regards to regulated and I have 5 different ones all react the same, battery will shut down @ 3.4v. I cannot speak for mechanical, I take it they are different in this regard.
Just posting what my experience has been and I still have good battery life going on 3.5 years is all.

A lot of regulated devices don't cut off til the cell is at 3.3 or 3.2, lower than we should be taking the cells, which is why I never suggest someone run them til they cut off

 

[Panorama911]

@ Nancy ....Understood...TY

 

[Yuri Porto]

I have been vaping for around 3 years now and made kind of a mistake with my first purchase wich was a silver bullet, it took me a really long time to get a at least decent vape. I also have been subohming for a year now and its just fantastic, but I only do it on mech mods cuz I trust them more than the regulated ones for subohming, just pop a good battery on it and vape like theres no tomorrow.

I have had my share of disappointments with regulated mods, my egrip broke the charging port just after 6 months, my smok bec pro is only giving me 10watts of power and thr other regulated mods I own dont go above 15watts. I just ordered an iStick 50watts and an ipv mini II 70watts (if you guys can give any opnions on theses devices I would really appreciate), so untill these arrive Ill just stick with my mech mods and my vtcs and lg batteries.

Cheers

 

[Riff]

I've had quite the journey into vaping:
I still own 3 regulated mods: My Sigelei 150 that sees use as a grab and go, My SVD 2 that was my go to device and is seeing a bit of resurgence, and the Aspire spinner variant that mostly sits unused just a backup or a loaner that I got and kinda forgot about.

As far as mechs go I've got a Stingray, Stingray 2, and Hades that get used at home, and 2x Reo Grand LP that have become my grab and go all day carries.

Regulated devices are very nice and can be very reliable. I've never had one crap out on me, and I've handed down 3 MVP 2's. They are great little devices that can be awesome. Mech's are just fun. I enjoy building and running RDA's on mechs. It makes it a more "active" hobby, and I know I spend less on coils now, so I can buy more juice.

That's my 2 cents. Hope that helps. Cheers!

 

[fattmatt805]

i for one love my mech mods, there are several reasons i prefer them as a daily carry. For one, they are compact, they are also generally more durable than your average regulated device. I Think it really all comes down to what fits your wants and needs. I for one rock a mech mod and dripper all day every day.

 

[Baditude]

The friend who got me in to vaping warned me that if you charge a battery before it is low, it may not have as long of a life. I usually don't begin to charge until it is 3.2v or below.

That was an uninformed and uneducated statement by your friend. Different chemistry batteries behave differently. The Nickle Cadium batteries used in camcorders required the charge to drain low before recharging. The Lithium batteries that we use in vaping are different; they perform and last longer the more frequently that you charge them rather than draining them down to nothing all the time.

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

 

[Baditude]

So with all the safety issues and stressing the cells, and dropping of power and complete cleaning, what is the advantages of the mechanical mod

Mechanical mods are bare-bones tube or box battery holders with no power regulation/variable power and no built-in safety features. These have recently enjoyed a resurgence in popularity because of RBAs (rebuildable atomizers). Because there is no computer to regulate voltage, these depend solely on the battery's output and the resistance of the heating coil. Vape quality will progressively decline as the battery is used.

Regulated mods (variable voltage) use micro computers to regulate the vapor to stay constant to what is dialed in by the user. These processors have built-in safety circuitry which make them a better choice for novice or intermediate vapors because of their safety features. These can be tube or box mods. There are newer models called "high wattage" regulated mods which have all the benefits of a regular regulated mod in addition to higher power capable of firing sub-ohm coils.

The Pro's & Cons of Regulated vs Mechanical Mods:

Regulated Pro's:

• The battery power to the atomizer is controlled (regulated) to stay the same throughout the battery charge, from a fully charged battery until fully discharged.
• The power can be adjusted to increase or decrease the voltage by the user, allowing the user to change their vaping experience.
• Has built-in protective circuitry against short circuits, atomizer shorts, accidentally putting battery in backwards, and over-heating.
• Has built-in battery voltage and atomizer resistance meters to check battery status and the ohm of the coil.

Regulated Con's:

• Generally speaking, may not be as well made or as durable over time; electrical components might fail.
• Unless it is a "high wattage" regulated mod, will not be able to fire sub-ohm coils.

Mechanical Pro's:

• Generally speaking, made to be more durable and withstand some physical abuse. No electronics to fail.
• Able to fire sub-ohm coils because there is no protection circuitry or processor amp limits to prohibit it.
• Many are machined to be quite beautiful, nearly art pieces.

Mechanical Cons:

• No protection circuitry. This is a big one for beginners. The user must always be aware of the signs of a short circuit which could cause the battery to vent into thermal runaway. Must have ventilation holes and a hot spring for a venting battery.
• No built-in voltage or resistance meters.
• No way to regulate the battery output. As the battery drains during use, the vapor will continually decline gradually. No way to adjust the vape experience except by changing the atomizer resistance.

 

[Baditude]

The drop in voltage, this may be an issue . say for example I start out with a duel coil on my dripper reading about 1.7 ohms on my ohms reader I vape along happily ... and pull out my mech mod and vape off and on for an hour or so ... do I have any way of knowing I am putting myself and my young friend at risk ie will the vape decrease or the battery become warmer or will I have to spoil the moment and pull out my ohms tester? to know I am within safe limits .

You could use a battery voltage meter on a mechanical mod to determine precisely what your battery's voltage is. This screws onto the 510 connector, and when you press the mod's fire button it measures the battery voltage.