Now that I agree with, and there are several mechnicals that foot the bill
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Now that I agree with, and there are several mechnicals that foot the bill
oh going off what bentwookie said, when using mechs, i wouldnt suggest anyone use a mech period if they dont have a multimeter (btw the ea clone looks pretty d@mn good if u ask me). but u really should use ur multimeter whenever u make wrap ur own coils, doesnt matter if mech or vv/vw. but u HAVE to use ur multimeter on mech mods (at least in my opionion). plus a vapesafe/2cents fuse can never really be a bad thing in mech mods (i personally always use one). just food for thought ppl
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As much as I love to see people pushing anything to the limit, mechanical mods seem like a heck of a price tag for it.
Try micros before going sub-ohm. Safer and, from my admittedly limited experience, just as vaporous and flavorful. Won't even bother with sub coils now.
Regardless of the merits (or potential lack thereof) of sub-ohm coils, I think the best sub-$100 mechanical is the Puresmoker Legacy. Can be fully disassembled, straightforward design, works very well and, should you ever need repairs, parts are available from Puresmoker. Top-notch support as well.
I always see fear mongering on this board and the video of a Li-Ion battery exploding when it comes to sub-ohm vaping. First you need to educate yourself with ohms law and the limits of your battery. It's on the forum and I've posted the information before. DON'T BUY CHEAP BATTERIES. AW IMRs are favored because of the higher continuous amp limits. Buy from reputable dealers, stay away from Ebay because there are fakes out there. It's been mentioned on this thread, get yourself a multimeter to check your builds and the health of your batteries, if they are not maintaining a charge you need to toss them. Li-Mn batteries like the AW IMRs do not explode, they get hot. While they do not explode, they can get hot enough to cause a fire. Education is the key IMO, not fear mongering. People are going to do what they want.
Here is a video of Li-Mn batteries shorting:
Here is a video of Li-Mn batteries shorting:
i just picked one up from the classifieds and can report its a very nice mod. there is another on available for $80 right now.
we are seeing an increasing influx of questions from uneducated vapors about wanting to try or who already have tried ULR who obviously haven't educated themselves before jumping right into this advanced stuff.
Most online vendors who sell RBA's have bold warnings on their product description page that this equipment is for advanced vapors only. My guess is these warnings are totally ignored by many people who only hear that ULR is the best thing since sliced bread and want a piece of it for themselves. They don't bother researching why those warning are there in the first place.
For example
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I agree that the shop that setup a newbie like that was irresponsible. I just recently educated a friend that got into rebuildables. He got his hands on a hybrid and didn't even know how to set it up. On top of that he had crappy trustfire batteries on a 0.8 ohm coil. The shops out there need to educate these people and if they are coming here we need to educate them. The typical response I've been seeing has been the exploding battery video and bashing sub ohm vaping.
For about $120 you can get a good mechanical mod not top of the line but for the price great, look up the company called Gus they are based out of Greece and for $140 you can get the telescope mod.
Damn those posts totally just scared me. I guess i'll just stay away from sub ohm coils for now. I honestly just wanted to explore other ways of vaping. I admit I haven't been doing much research on the dangers of sub ohm coils because I never knew they existed. I'm glad I posted a thread here. Thank you. I will definitely do more research on this topic. I feel like i've embarrassed myself.
As popular as mech devices are today for the super popular SLR vaping wave... SLR = super low resistance, there should be some "stickies" permanent threads with a list with criteria for SLR vaping.
Shouldn't be so hard to do... ie. if you understand a list of factors and guidelines for a specific use ( a finite set of factors), then by all means...
- gear factors ... including ohms readers
- understanding ohms/watts/voltage
- methods
wrap it up in a neat package.
It takes some "learning" ... crafting etc... the rewards are well worth it imo.
There's a lot of confusion out there... and maybe ECF should address this.
Shouldn't be so hard to do... ie. if you understand a list of factors and guidelines for a specific use ( a finite set of factors), then by all means...
- gear factors ... including ohms readers
- understanding ohms/watts/voltage
- methods
wrap it up in a neat package.
It takes some "learning" ... crafting etc... the rewards are well worth it imo.
There's a lot of confusion out there... and maybe ECF should address this.
GP Paps - Beautiful mod, high quality, not impossible to obtain (new batches every 1-2 weeks), and unbelievable customer support! ~$90
Or just screw it into a VV mod like provari or evic first and check the ohms, mulitmeters can give the wrong reading sometimes, cheap ones especially...
The "typical response" of the so-called fear-mongering, alarmist veterans who have been speaking out against uneducated vapors attempting sub ohm vaping is an attempt to alert those ignorant and uneducated vapors of the potential dangers that they obviously are not aware of. It has not been our intent to embarrass or call out these individuals or even chastise them, but the point is the whole topic of RBA/ultra-low-resistance is a controversial one with the potential for unexpected harm or damage to occur to the uneducated.
We worry for the safety of those who may push their batteries to a catastrophic event, possibly injuring themselves with a physical burn or fire damage to personal property.
It scares me when I read of these people using an RBA at ultra low ohms and they are using a crappy Trustfire battery and don't know how to set the unit up. They don't own a multimeter and don't even know the value of using one when building their own coils. They don't know the possible reasons behind a mod's hot spring collapsing on two consecutive occassions, not even aware that this is a warning something is terribly wrong with their setup. These people likely don't know why hot springs collapse, why their mods have drilled holes in them, why some batteries are "protected" and others use "safe chemistry". They aren't aware of what a Vape Safe Fuse is or why to use one. They are buying and using cheap crappy batteries off of E-Bay.
The issue needs to be addressed, but I don't know the how or the where. I may be biased. I take the same attitude of PBusardo in his rant & rave video comment. "Sometimes just because you can, doesn't mean you should." This IMO ultra low resistance craze has gone past the quest for a great vape, it has gotten to be a pissing contest in who can make the most vapor. And people who have no business attempting it ARE, and they are going have an unfortunate incident that will make the national news and e-cigarettes will be cast in an even more unfavorable light with the resulting negative publicity. All because of someone's ignorance.
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Thank you very much. You just proved my point.My intent is not to embarrass anyone. There's no question that is stupid if it involves safety and can prevent a catastrophic accident. I'm glad you posted it here, and...
I hope that the moderators use common sense and leave this thread in the New Members Forum for new members to see it, instead of burying it in the Rebuildable sub-forum as has been done in the past.
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