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Janty atty's use a different heating coil! Our heating coils are not produced in China, we import them from Europe. They last much longer
Seems like that is something you should promote in your advertising and web site etc. I think people would be much more apt to spend the extra money if they knew they were getting something different from the standard Chinese attys when they buy from Janty. I know I would.
I just received my stick minutes ago, and was bemoaning the distinct lack of vapor, and came here (naturally) for the answer - and here it was!
This thread triggered my memory of the cap method that I'd seen months back (along with my memories of mangling 801 atomizers with various types of pliers), where you take the white plastic cap from a cartridge and fit it over the open end of the atomizer to use as a tightening aid. My first try was with the cartridge inserted into the atomizer, and the cap went on so tight it started spinning the cart around inside the atomizer. Freaking out about stray fibers getting stuck deep inside the atomizer mesh, I madly tried to pull it out, but the cap was now stuck to the atomizer pretty tightly and it wouldn't come off. Once I pulled out the cart, it was buried so deeply inside the cap that I couldn't get it out. Aaarrrrggghhh.
Finally got everything de-stuck and cleaned up the mess, tried it again without the cartridge installed (duh), and BAM - sweet, thick, glorious primer fluid vapor.
Thanks, all!
Tim
This thread triggered my memory of the cap method that I'd seen months back (along with my memories of mangling 801 atomizers with various types of pliers), where you take the white plastic cap from a cartridge and fit it over the open end of the atomizer to use as a tightening aid. My first try was with the cartridge inserted into the atomizer, and the cap went on so tight it started spinning the cart around inside the atomizer. Freaking out about stray fibers getting stuck deep inside the atomizer mesh, I madly tried to pull it out, but the cap was now stuck to the atomizer pretty tightly and it wouldn't come off. Once I pulled out the cart, it was buried so deeply inside the cap that I couldn't get it out. Aaarrrrggghhh.
Finally got everything de-stuck and cleaned up the mess, tried it again without the cartridge installed (duh), and BAM - sweet, thick, glorious primer fluid vapor.
Thanks, all!
Tim
Janty atty's use a different heating coil! Our heating coils are not produced in China, we import them from Europe. They last much longer
Really?! Cool!
Is this also true of your 510-compatible atomizers? If so, I'll certainly buy a couple. I love the heat and flavor the 510 gives me.
hello ludo,
that would explain some things i experienced. and really you should mention such things.
i discovered a difference between the generic 510 from joye and yours, it seems that on janty atomizers the wicking mesh is more flat, but more sturdy.
i have a few from each, and i doubt its normally joye tolerance.
it would be nice if you could clear this up a bit too
that would explain some things i experienced. and really you should mention such things.
i discovered a difference between the generic 510 from joye and yours, it seems that on janty atomizers the wicking mesh is more flat, but more sturdy.
i have a few from each, and i doubt its normally joye tolerance.
it would be nice if you could clear this up a bit too
Hey esz,
I got this note from heaven-gifts
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Your message has been replied.
Your message:
Hello, Do the adaptors for the Joye stick to the 510 atomizer contain a resistor?
Our reply:
Dear Friend,
Our Joye510 adaptor for Joye stick doesn't contain a resistor.
Best Wishes,
Heaven Gifts
Yours sincerely,
Heaven Gifts
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With your friends or connections there (wherever you are) can you verify that? That way, we'd have a choice- some may like the Janty resistor-style and others might opt for the non-resistored units. I'd imagine though, using them would void your warranty- but it seems like a good risk.
I am hoping this is the right place to ask.... but when will prefilled carts for the Janty dura be available in the USA store????
We currently do have a small amount of carts available for purchase, although quantity and flavors are limited. We are working to get more in stock; however, I can't give an exact time frame. I apologize for the delay but can assure you that we are doing our best to get more in stock.
Ethan
Ethan
I finally got a reply from Janty on the use of the resistor and here was the response:
yes there is a resistor inside adaptor to protect the dura atomizer against damage because the output is from 4.2 to 3.3 and not like dura 3.3 constant.
I thought the Dura atty's were Joye units and if so, they sure ought to be able to handle more than 3.3 volts without damage. Heck, people on the forums here regularly run them at 5 and 6 volts. I run mine through my SureSmoker PS at 5 volts constantly and haven't lost an atty yet.
Well I doubt they'll change it but anyone considering the adaptor should be aware that it's going to run at reduced performance over connecting a 510 to a standard battery.
BTW - I went ahead and bought the AltSmoke adaptor and it runs perfectly in the JS. The only bad thing is that it sits really deep in the stick and due to the 510 atty/cart's reduced diameter, it allows the atty/cart to wiggle aound in the cavity. It also makes the cart only protrude from the JS about 1/2".
yes there is a resistor inside adaptor to protect the dura atomizer against damage because the output is from 4.2 to 3.3 and not like dura 3.3 constant.
I thought the Dura atty's were Joye units and if so, they sure ought to be able to handle more than 3.3 volts without damage. Heck, people on the forums here regularly run them at 5 and 6 volts. I run mine through my SureSmoker PS at 5 volts constantly and haven't lost an atty yet.
Well I doubt they'll change it but anyone considering the adaptor should be aware that it's going to run at reduced performance over connecting a 510 to a standard battery.
BTW - I went ahead and bought the AltSmoke adaptor and it runs perfectly in the JS. The only bad thing is that it sits really deep in the stick and due to the 510 atty/cart's reduced diameter, it allows the atty/cart to wiggle aound in the cavity. It also makes the cart only protrude from the JS about 1/2".
Well at this point I consider the Janty unit pretty useless so I may make an attempt to take it apart and get the resistor out. Anyone know a way to get it apart without destroying it?
Dura batteries only put out 3.3 volts?
Yeesh- I'm gonna have to grab a multimeter and verify that- I had no idea. I wonder if it's the same on their mega batts?Edit/add: Tested a Dura battery and a Generic mega, both fully charged. Both read 4.2 volts.
Sounds fishy- but given the benefit of the doubt, maybe the person is trying to say something they don't know how to describe- like the little dura batteries drop to 3.3 under load or something but the 10440 doesn't.
It may be, too, that Janty atomizers are made with a different coil than Joye's- I think I heard that somewhere, but someone else would have to verify- and the Janty atomizers can't handle the standard 3.7 volts (?), where Joye's can.
There is an actual answer somewhere in all this- I'm kinda leaning toward the one where they limit the atomizer to keep warranty expense down, but I dunno. The stick is just peachy with an 801- but for a 510 solution, elsewhere is probably better if this stuff is not "standard" configuration - i.e., 510 atomizer+3.7 battery. Now I'm not sure whether I can use Janty atomizers on other platforms?
In fairness, I've been using my janty stuff since April, and I have yet to have an atomizer go dead. People pop 'em all the time, from what I read. I've run a janty atty on an 18650 mod, and they haven't shown any sign of dying either. I'm confused.
In fairness too, Janty advertises this as a 510 adaptor for the J-Stick, not just "a 510 adaptor". If they feel it should have a resistor and behave in a certain way for whatever reason, they have every right to engineer it in the way that adaptor would behave best, in their experience and estimation, with the Stick. It would be easier to just say that rather than this voltage explanation- unless there's something I don't get. I don't think so, but never say never. My expectations were just different, that's all.
Joye's adapter doesn't have a resistor and it's way cheap, so there are alternatives if you have an out of warranty stick and want to try something different, so I'll chalk it up to experience, and use the stick for my 801's as a stealthy vaping unit.
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i doubt it, i have original janty batteries here, and those provide 4.2V as any other pen, 510, 901 or mod-battery i have lying around here.
3.3V would make no sense. there's something really really wrong.
3.3V would make no sense. there's something really really wrong.
i wish Janty made a 410-style, i love the slimness and length. they're sexy and good-tasting, but not a powerhouse and atty performance varies wildly. the "Janty treatment" would probably max it out just nicely.
so are your 510-style attys a Euro coil as well, then? (whisper it in my ear..)
so are your 510-style attys a Euro coil as well, then? (whisper it in my ear..
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I purchased the original janty stick adapter for the 510 and the initial run of adapters had some issues. It gave a real weak performance and was generally not very impressive. Once Janty got the replacement adapters in, I turned in a ticket and quickly received my replacement (thanks Ethan!) but was quickly disappointed in it's performance as well. Feeling a little snake bit I quickly dismissed the adapter and put it in "the drawer", you know the place where you put the things you buy that suck (i.e. 901 batteries).
Then my friend picked up an adapter for his Janty Stick and it worked like a freight train. So, I went back to the drawer pulled it out and tried it for a few hours, it got a little better but not what I had witnessed his do. I then replaced the battery in the stick with a new one, since it had been in there a while and had been charged and recharged a lot. I charged it for two hours and then tried it.
A LOT more vapor, the throat hit is still slightly diminished but the vapor is not. It performs quite pleasantly actually and I am now happy with the purchase. So, if you think the adapter stinks it may be worth a second try.
Then my friend picked up an adapter for his Janty Stick and it worked like a freight train. So, I went back to the drawer pulled it out and tried it for a few hours, it got a little better but not what I had witnessed his do. I then replaced the battery in the stick with a new one, since it had been in there a while and had been charged and recharged a lot. I charged it for two hours and then tried it.
A LOT more vapor, the throat hit is still slightly diminished but the vapor is not. It performs quite pleasantly actually and I am now happy with the purchase. So, if you think the adapter stinks it may be worth a second try.
i think many man well know about lithium battery, 3.3V oh come on man.
if there is any reason, it would be that the stick electronics need this protection, but not the atomizer. maybe theone replying from janty got the explanation wrong.
otherwise there would be no need for janty to implement a resistor without need, its just additional cost. so there is no point crying out loud about lies
@esz, should i send a pair 3V batteries over to you ?
otherwise there would be no need for janty to implement a resistor without need, its just additional cost. so there is no point crying out loud about lies
@esz, should i send a pair 3V batteries over to you ?
Ludo, does this apply to the TAWAs as well?Janty atty's use a different heating coil! Our heating coils are not produced in China, we import them from Europe. They last much longer
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