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Mik_Janty

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Plastic. I still maintain that the shroud is not the biggest reason for battery life. I think they are just getting better at the battery technology.

Mik, can you comment?

I could tell you all exactly why the eGo is so fantastic, and what the secret is.. but.. then id have to kill you all.

And.. who would I have to talk to then?

;)

To be honest, i think its a combination of all those things. The battery quality of the eGo is far superior to that of the 14500 for instance - this means it delivers each of its mAH all the way. Combined with the shroud + the quality engineering on the inside, this ensures minimal loss of power and that produces a good TH, and a long life.

Also.. the body is made of pure blood from italian sheep, mixed with kryptonite. Which.. could explain why superman never visits anymore. :confused:
 

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Plastic. I still maintain that the shroud is not the biggest reason for battery life. I think they are just getting better at the battery technology.

Mik, can you comment?

I never said the shroud increased battery life, I am just saying that if it is the shroud that effects the flavour/throat hit and so on, then it is possible that it could have a positive effect on battery life. As more people will become satisfied earlier and vape less.

Of course this doesn't work for everyone, it doesn't work for me but I think that is because I haven't yet found the right nicotine level heh.

I guess I could be completely wrong and the shroud does nothing at all, but to me it appears to trap warm air. So when you vape, you suck in that warmed up air first, any more air you require has to pass over both surfaces of the shroud/atomizer which further increases its warmth. This in turn will increase the flavour and throat hit and possibly the vapour? I am no expert, but that is how it appears to me :oops:
 

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I never said the shroud increased battery life, I am just saying that if it is the shroud that effects the flavour/throat hit and so on, then it is possible that it could have a positive effect on battery life. As more people will become satisfied earlier and vape less.

Of course this doesn't work for everyone, it doesn't work for me but I think that is because I haven't yet found the right nicotine level heh.

I guess I could be completely wrong and the shroud does nothing at all, but to me it appears to trap warm air. So when you vape, you suck in that warmed up air first, any more air you require has to pass over both surfaces of the shroud/atomizer which further increases its warmth. This in turn will increase the flavour and throat hit and possibly the vapour? I am no expert, but that is how it appears to me :oops:

You are wrong. Its all in the sheeps blood. :oops:

(actually you are right, - it does trap warm air, and that _should_ lead to people having to hold the button for less time thus saving energy)
 

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You are wrong. Its all in the sheeps blood.

Haha, that would of been my next theory :oops:

Am I right in thinking/using the shroud on other devices has a similar effect?

Could we be seeing replica shrouds from your design in the near future on many other manufacturers PVs?

All I can say is thanks for it, it seems to work great for me and the eGo :thumbs:
 

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I personally notice no difference between the attys I have been using and the original.



I don't think the battery has anything to do with why the eGo tastes/performs differently.

I personally think it is just the cover/shroud. When placed over my PS PT it has a similar effect. Warms the intake air, cools and smooths out the exhale and produces a stronger throat hit.

I think the reason the eGo has these sort of battery life numbers of 7-12 hours then other people saying days is because:

1. I think the battery cut off period is extremely low. So it will last longer than other batteries because rather than being switched out at say 3.6v, the eGo continues to perform at numbers as low as 3.3v - This is all because of the cover, the throat hit, taste and vapour improvements made by it mean that at these lower readings where most PV's become useless, the eGo performs just as good as them despite the battery being a lot lower on charge.

2. The throat hit power increase on a new battery is pretty strong, I am assuming many people are taking less puffs than they usually would because they are feeling satisfied earlier due to the covers effects. Less puffs = less overall consumption of the battery.

3. Early on into a fresh batteries use, the puffs you require to take to get enough vapour, a strong throat hit and overall satisfaction are the sort of puffs you would take on a much higher voltage device. So this also prolongs the batteries expectancy, people are holding down that button less because the eGo's design means they can take small and short drags for quite a long period of time.

This is only my noobie opinion, I could be completely wrong :thumbs:

I have no idea if you're right or wrong, PF. My eGo was just dropped off and the first battery is on the charger. BUT, you definitely get bonus points for thinking WAY outside the box. =)

I'll say this sans taking my first drag... the shell of the eGo appears to be a 14500 battery holder. It looks like Janty built the shell and slid the guts of a 14500 right inside it. The dimensions are nearly identical, length and width.

Btw, the batteries directly out of the package wrap measured 3.86 and 3.87 volts. I'm hoping for 4.2 volts fully charged...
 

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Upon measuring the voltage of the batteries, I noticed something a little unusual -- the circuit doesn't break immediately when the momentary switch is released. There is about a 1 second delay. Same with both batteries which leads me to believe they are designed that way. I use a Fluke model 110, true RMS, multi-meter which is about the fastest meter on the market, so it's a real delay, not one of those $8 cheap meter false readings.

I don't know what this means, if anything, but it is different from my other mods and manual batteries. It's almost as if Mik came up with a circuit that limits the surge to the atty on the way up and on the way down, thus creating more efficiency. But, c'mon -- we all know Mik. He's not *that* bright. Is he? =)
 

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Upon measuring the voltage of the batteries, I noticed something a little unusual -- the circuit doesn't break immediately when the momentary switch is released.

Haha, dejavu.

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Something else I noticed was that the reading goes up when I remove my finger from the manual button. It will be rock steady on 3.50v for example, then as soon as I let go it jumps up to about 3.52v for 1-3 seconds then it turns off. It is not an instant off, it seems to purposely jump by .02v for a couple of seconds after you release, I have noticed this every time I have took the readings.
 

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Haha, dejavu.

Every *discovery* I've ever made, everything I ever *invented* I find out later has already been done. LOL

I'm sorry, PF. This thread has gotten kinda long. I didn't mean to repeat your findings, which I probably read. It's reassuring though to see the same findings. (I didn't see voltage go up upon release of the switch though -- just a slow fade to black -- like "The Sopranos" Finale. <g>

(the US crowd will get the inference of "The Sopranos" while you scratch your head and say; "WTF?". LOL
 

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Haha, that would of been my next theory :oops:

Am I right in thinking/using the shroud on other devices has a similar effect?

Could we be seeing replica shrouds from your design in the near future on many other manufacturers PVs?

All I can say is thanks for it, it seems to work great for me and the eGo :thumbs:

In theory yes, it should be something that others want to copy - however its not that easy to copy or produce.. you need quite a setup to make that shroud in that shape - but im sure it will be copied.
 

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Hey guys,

Here is a small idea of some untraditional bodies we were thinking about producing - so we would like to hear what you think of them - so feel free to post and tell us what your favorite is! ;)

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/Mik
 

Mik_Janty

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Thanks for the responses, I'll open a ticket ASAP! :)

Two minutes after I opened my ticket Ethan shot back an email assuring me my cable will be replaced and sent right out. That's fast!

In case you didnt notice, Ethan is not real, hes a perl script that just sends out random messages in an attempt to soothe customers.

I mean seriously.. noone is that nice in real life.
 
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