Message to premium eJuice vendors

[Calivapr123]

~ $20+ for 30ml of ejuice is a lot of money to pay for liquid. In fact, it is equivalent to buying a $500 bottle of wine.

For that money the price per ml can match some of the most premium alcohol that has been aged for years. If i'm going to pay that much, I expect my juices to be steeped. It does not make sense to pay premium for something I need to wait several weeks for it to steep. I pay and would like to vape it right out of the bottle, much like I would pay for a good wine, brandy or champagne.

 

[Mike Sheda]

And the fun part is, that 5.69 30ML of Liqua is ready to go when you get it. Life aint fair is it?

 

[vjc0628]

I do like the ability to customize those liquids which wouldn't be possible presteeped
And apart from Halo (which by the way I got bottle of Tribeca last week clearly needs steeping this time)
All the best tobacco's I've received have needed steeping
Id rather that; then vape the subpar ones I've had that have not needed steeping
Sure who likes to wait but Id rather wait and have good stuff )
And also If they reasonable could don't you think they would
man so many of the bad reviews of good venders start off with these juices just came in the mail

 

[stevegmu]

~ $20+ for 30ml of eJuice is a lot of money to pay for liquid. In fact, it is equivalent to buying a $500 bottle of wine.

For that money the price per ml can match some of the most premium alcohol that has been aged for years. If i'm going to pay that much, I expect my juices to be steeped. It does not make sense to pay premium for something I need to wait several weeks for it to steep. I pay and would like to vape it right out of the bottle, much like I would pay for a good wine, brandy or champagne.

I never smoked alcohol. To me, 30ml. is about equivalent to a carton of cigarettes, so $20 seems cheap by comparison.

 

[Calivapr123]

Gotta love fasttech, but I have a delicious Hangsen RY4 DIY I can whip up, cost under $2 for 30ml, seems fair enough to me

It's nice to buy a juice I really like once in a while, but more and more I think about whether it's worth it or not because I have to wait too long to vape it right.

 

[Calivapr123]

I never smoked alcohol. To me, 30ml. is about equivalent to a carton of cigarettes, so $20 seems cheap by comparison.

Did you have to wait 2 weeks to smoke that pack?

 

[stevegmu]

Did you have to wait 2 weeks to smoke that pack?

No, but my $20 e-nic comes pre-steeped and ready to vape.

 

[Mike Sheda]

Did you have to wait 2 weeks to smoke that pack?

No, but I had to wait 10 days for it to get to me from china

 

[ClippinWings]

~ $20+ for 30ml of eJuice is a lot of money to pay for liquid. In fact, it is equivalent to buying a $500 bottle of wine.

By my math, vaping 3-4'm/day...

It's also equal to cigarettes at $2/pack.

There are premium liquids that are steeped and ready to vape out of the gate....

But the best ones are more than your $20 target.


Sent from my mobile, using Tapatalk... so ignore the typos.

 

[RobinBanks]

I never smoked alcohol. To me, 30ml. is about equivalent to a carton of cigarettes, so $20 seems cheap by comparison.

Yeah this is kind of how I see it. I mean, comparing it to wine is a very valid point and does put it into a bit of perspective.

However...
I vape about 3 ml of juice a day.
A 30ml bottle would last me about 10 days.
I had a $15 a day cigarette habit.
That cost me $150 every 10 days.

I spend $130 less every 10 days now.

If a $20 bottle of juice opposed to a $15 one is gonna keep my happy and off the analogs.. I'm ok with it for now.

disclaimer: this is not to say a $15 bottle couldn't keep me happy either

 

[doots]

20 bucks for 30ml is a rip off no matter what it is or who is selling it! these prices are getting crazy. if we refuse to but it they would come down. make your own 30 ml for a buck or two.

 

[Calivapr123]

No, but my $20 e-nic comes pre-steeped and ready to vape.

The thread is about $20 enic that doesn't come pre steeped.

 

[vjc0628]

20 bucks for 30ml is a rip off no matter what it is or who is selling it! these prices are getting crazy. if we refuse to but it they would come down. make your own 30 ml for a buck or two.

If I did that it would take time and with me id be lucky if it came out like MBV probably even worse

Ill take the good liquid from $15 to $20 range every time

 

[Calivapr123]

Those of you guys that pay $20 for a bottle of liquid you don't have to get all defensive and .... hurt. I too pay for that once in a while.

The point of the thread is to send a message of perspective to premium juice makers and to other vapers too. It's simple, there would be legions more of us to buy their liquids if it tastes right from the very start, and less of us lost to other juice makers while we wait for their juices to steep. Many of us don't mind paying about what we spent for cigarettes, but then again we didn't have to wait weeks for a pack of cigarettes to be ready.

 

[misterholidayhouse]

I think the OP's point is quite valid. Regarding custom mixtures and "gourmet" liquids, maybe the "artisans/chemists/mad scientist geniuses making the high dollar stuff should apply what THEY think is the proper steeping procedure and time before shipping. A good marketing approach for a high end product if you ask me. At least then everyone would be tasting the product in the same state upon receipt, and better yet, we would stop hearing the ridiculous superfan/shill defenses of some of these "gourmet" venders who put out juices that taste like paint stripper. (And likely always will)
"Oh, that one can be a little harsh for the first couple months, but drive it around the block with the top down, play it some Vivaldi, and let it rest until January 16, 2018 and you will be amazed at the transformation that takes place, because that's what I do... And BTW, I'm currently vaping it through my ... while talking on the phone with guy who created it at 2AM, and its just absolute perfection."
Gimme a break guys.. Not to knock all these companies. There are some really great ones out there and they are providing great products. Others, not so much.. Until then, I will always order samples. I bought into hype once with a big order.. Learned me good!
Edit: I have no problem paying $20 for a premium juice, as long as it's actually good. Therein lies the problem.

 

[RobinBanks]

20 bucks for 30ml is a rip off no matter what it is or who is selling it! these prices are getting crazy. if we refuse to but it they would come down. make your own 30 ml for a buck or two.

I have a big urge to DIY and I'm reading a bit about it, but I sooooooo need to take my time before I do that.
Honestly it's moreso because I have these grand flavors in my head that I can find anywhere.
I know me and I'll spend a crapload on more supplies than I'll ever need and the next thing I know I'll be naturally extracting black truffles, Lehua honey and the world's rarest vanilla orchids.

 

[Rickajho]

If you want to promote Hangsen as the bees knees - gack! - knock yourself out. If you want to know how old (that would read: fresh) your e-liquid actually is, god forbid you have to leave it sit for a few days before it has a fully developed flavor. Next you will be comparing making e-liquid to milking a cow.

 

[stevegmu]

The thread is about $20 enic that doesn't come pre steeped.

I don't know of any premium e-juices that don't come pre-steeped.

 

[Calivapr123]

If you want to promote Hangsen as the bees knees - gack! - knock yourself out. If you want to know how old (that would read: fresh) your e-liquid actually is, god forbid you have to leave it sit for a few days before it has a fully developed flavor. Next you will be comparing making e-liquid to milking a cow.

I'm sorry your highness, but I'll take Hangsen over a lot of $20/bottle liquids out there which I wouldn't even vape for free.

 

[Rickajho]

Those of you guys that pay $20 for a bottle of liquid you don't have to get all defensive and .... hurt. I too pay for that once in a while.

The point of the thread is to send a message of perspective to premium juice makers and to other vapers too. It's simple, there would be legions more of us to buy their liquids if it tastes right from the very start, and less of us lost to other juice makers while we wait for their juices to steep. Many of us don't mind paying about what we spent for cigarettes, but then again we didn't have to wait weeks for a pack of cigarettes to be ready.

Send your message to whomever you think is listening, but for every "one" of you there are 5,000 grousing if their liquids order doesn't show up within 3 days after the order has been placed. Now the vendor is supposed to annoy those people by adding delay time on purpose?

Tip: If the concept of leaving a custom mixed bottle of e-liquid alone for 3 days once you have it annoys you that much then don't buy it. Plenty of Dekang, Hangsen and "China Tar Oil" to go around. A lot of us stopped buying it and moved to custom mixing vendors a long time ago for our reasons - not yours.