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What do you think will happen when it happens Redsock ?

Let's look at the "when" portion...

While the cycles do happen, they aren't set in stone as far as timing or types of events. Nature does have basic frameworks that it follow, but it is still variable. For a simple example, daisy's do tend to follow the golden ratio and fractal math but each one is still unique and many fall outside of those guidelines. Or... using the traffic on the highways as Randall Carlson mentioned, when the traffic is crowded, an accident is more likely but that doesn't mean one will actually happen. One last example, the Mayan's calendar seemed to indicate some change was going to happen after 2012 came around... but we seemed to miss having any catastrophic none the less.

So the cycles are patterns to be paid serious attention to but at the same time, we must understand there is still a differences in the probability that will always come into play. I don't believe in fate alone, I think our free will can and does have an impact on future events.

If the potential threat is a meteor or comet... we are at a point in time that our technology could help avert a possible impact. We need to invest and then implement space technology that could help protect ourselves. We should also invest in a backup plan and start moving towards starting colonies on other worlds so if something catastrophic does happen, it can't completely wipe out humans.
 

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Let's look at the "when" portion...

While the cycles do happen, they aren't set in stone as far as timing or types of events. Nature does have basic frameworks that it follow, but it is still variable. For a simple example, daisy's do tend to follow the golden ratio and fractal math but each one is still unique and many fall outside of those guidelines. Or... using the traffic on the highways as Randall Carlson mentioned, when the traffic is crowded, an accident is more likely but that doesn't mean one will actually happen. One last example, the Mayan's calendar seemed to indicate some change was going to happen after 2012 came around... but we seemed to miss having any catastrophic none the less.

So the cycles are patterns to be paid serious attention to but at the same time, we must understand there is still a differences in the probability that will always come into play. I don't believe in fate alone, I think our free will can and does have an impact on future events.

If the potential threat is a meteor or comet... we are at a point in time that our technology could help avert a possible impact. We need to invest and then implement space technology that could help protect ourselves. We should also invest in a backup plan and start moving towards starting colonies on other worlds so if something catastrophic does happen, it can't completely wipe out humans.
You are spot on with your thoughts . You mentioned the Mayan calendar, this was a prediction same as you're figuring out is why it didn't happen. Are you speaking in your phrase, other worlds, as dimensions or planets ?
 

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You mentioned the Mayan calendar, this was a prediction same as you're figuring out is why it didn't happen. Are you speaking in your phrase, other worlds, as dimensions or planets ?

I don't think that was a prediction actually. The Mayan's just didn't extend their calendar past that point which happened to also coincide with the end of one of their cycles and the start of the next. We ( as in our generation ) then tried to attribute all manner of things with it, good bad or otherwise.

Dimensions... other than the ones we can experience directly... are like trying to describe or prove God in a way. Physicists, mathematicians and the like ... not to mention spiritualists or others into the esoteric ... can hypothesize all they like about them. Until we can actually experience them ourselves it's probably best not to try to explain them unless we have other things that possibly lead to proof of their existence. So for me, those can only be talked about with faith... there are no facts or even subjective proofs to back up their existence at this time.

At this time, I don't think we have any proof, factual, subjective or otherwise, that planets play much more of a role other than their gravity can fling asteroids, comets and the like our way. I don't even think we can say the menstruation cycle is actually related to the Lunar cycle simply because they have the same time cycle. They simply have the same cycle period, but they don't seem to be in sync. I'm actually thankful on that one, how bad would it be if all women were mad all at the same time every 27 days ( 27.3 days for a lunar cycle... but 29.5 for it to complete all of it's phases ).

I feel we can have faith in those things we don't or can't fully understand as long as we aren't also fooling ourselves into taking them on blind faith. For those things we believe, we need to maintain a higher standard and require actual proof. Of course, sometimes, like the stuff I mentioned before, we've got to look at the coincidences to see if enough of them stack up and indicate there is something true about them. At this time, it seems to me that there is something to the cycles that our ancestors wrote about. I'm not close to a 100% certainty and will maintain some skepticism, but the coincidences to seem to indicate there is something there.
 

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I don't think that was a prediction actually. The Mayan's just didn't extend their calendar past that point which happened to also coincide with the end of one of their cycles and the start of the next. We ( as in our generation ) then tried to attribute all manner of things with it, good bad or otherwise.

Dimensions... other than the ones we can experience directly... are like trying to describe or prove God in a way. Physicists, mathematicians and the like ... not to mention spiritualists or others into the esoteric ... can hypothesize all they like about them. Until we can actually experience them ourselves it's probably best not to try to explain them unless we have other things that possibly lead to proof of their existence. So for me, those can only be talked about with faith... there are no facts or even subjective proofs to back up their existence at this time.

At this time, I don't think we have any proof, factual, subjective or otherwise, that planets play much more of a role other than their gravity can fling asteroids, comets and the like our way. I don't even think we can say the menstruation cycle is actually related to the Lunar cycle simply because they have the same time cycle. They simply have the same cycle period, but they don't seem to be in sync. I'm actually thankful on that one, how bad would it be if all women were mad all at the same time every 27 days ( 27.3 days for a lunar cycle... but 29.5 for it to complete all of it's phases ).

I feel we can have faith in those things we don't or can't fully understand as long as we aren't also fooling ourselves into taking them on blind faith. For those things we believe, we need to maintain a higher standard and require actual proof. Of course, sometimes, like the stuff I mentioned before, we've got to look at the coincidences to see if enough of them stack up and indicate there is something true about them. At this time, it seems to me that there is something to the cycles that our ancestors wrote about. I'm not close to a 100% certainty and will maintain some skepticism, but the coincidences to seem to indicate there is something there.
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hmmmm berry interestins. I'll have ta think on that one and reread that several more times
 

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I'll have ta think on that one and reread that several more times

How about a simplification...

Being a techy nerd... I like things that can pass scientific testing or at the least, have enough coincidences to make the likelihood of something being true actually being possible. Still, I'm not an expert in any of these fields, so I have to also be a little skeptical of even the things I think are likely.

It looks likely that we ( Earth etc ) goes through cycles where we are at risk of catastrophic events and the chances seem pretty likely that these are caused by meteors and/or comet when we pass through the areas they travel. The Taurid meteor stream is an example of a short term ( happens twice a year ) chance of a catastrophic event, this is almost a certainty in my opinion ( heavy on the opinion side still ). I also think there are other potentially more catastrophic events that happen at thousands of year intervals, this part still being less likely, it still seems evident given the coincidences of the events shown on Randall's charts.

Ok... the part on dimensions... other than just the 4 I know of directly... I don't want to make any assumptions. I do think the scientists have the maths that seem to prove they exist, but that alone isn't enough for me to say they are fact yet. In short, my experience level isn't enough to argue for or against it, I just don't know enough to say so I try to not make assumptions. I only have faith that they exist at best, no proof.

On the subject of planets... I can only say with any certainty that they can affect other astral objects with their gravity which could certainly affect us on Earth if one of those objects impacts us. I have no faith, therefore no belief, that they also affect us as individuals any other way.

I'll add this.. Mother nature does seem to constantly repeat certain numbers, so there are patterns that exist. The lunar cycle and the menstrual cycle are both about 27 days... but they don't appear in sync exactly so I wouldn't apply any weight to that. Many of the numbers seen ( which are repeated often ) in nature, seem to reduce down to either 3, 6 or 9. In fact, Nicola Tesla is famous for saying “If you knew the magnificence of the three, six and nine, you would have a key to the universe.”
 
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