Mild but persistent headaches since I started

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WDeranged

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What the heck it is, I have no idea. Ain't going back to cigs though. Further I get from the things, more determined I get that they are past tense. The things dominated my life for years. I'm actually kind of mad at them now. :)

They've been an unpleasant background noise in my life for 13 years, almost everyone in my life smokes and my dad died recently from smoking related stuff so I decided to have a serious try at this.

I half expected my first roll up in 10 days to taste vile but it didn't taste of much at all or do anything for me, you'd think if I was craving it would have been a great relief but nothing...which does add to the theory that I've already got too much in my body I suppose :?:
 

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Lemme try again...

I nuked most of the last post because nothing was coming out the way I wanted and I kept editing and re-editing and re-re-re-re-re-... what was I saying?

There's so many chemicals in tobacco smoke (4,000 is the number I see all the time) I dunno anybody can sort which does what. I know I'm having what is at least my second "drowsy" fit this week. I may get up around 6 or 7 in the morning, but I'm barely coherent for the next six freaking hours. Getting anything done is a nightmare. Total zombie.

No idea what kind of stimulant effect those things had and I ain't going back to them. But I'm clearly "withdrawing" from something. And over a fairly long period. It comes and goes. Not as bad this time as earlier.

But I was thinking of this comment:

I even tried smoking a few analogs to see if I was craving the additives but again, no luck.

Yeah... but...

If it's something or some combination of somethings that are in tobacco smoke that you were used to having X level of "normal" in your system, a few cigs may not actually tell you much of anything. It may be only going back to your old habits would tell you anything. Which you may not want to do. I refuse to go back to smoking to see if regular smoking would knock out this ridiculous zombie thing I have trouble with now and again. Further I get from my smoking days, the more determined I get that smoking is in my past for good this time. In fact, I've come to resent how much the things dominated my life.

Sometimes, it's worth just getting through whatever the heck it is.

I think I'm going to have to stick purely to 50/50 6mg liquids and dilute all the ones I've got.

Yeah. You can get plain nic and low nic and dilute. Save your investment. I'm cutting an 18mg one I got from MBV myself. I like the flavor but the nic is too high for my ever so frequent vaping of flavors I like. :) Also, the flavor is a touch overpowering. So I'm cutting it with plain, low nic juice. Ending up with twice as much but at 9mg. :)
 

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Hi

Four things come to mind:

Dehydration. Some people report upping their water intake helps with headaches.

Quitting smoking. Don't know how long you smoked or how much, but headaches are a known 'side effect' of quitting smoking. You system is getting used to not getting that boat load of crap that comes from burning processed tobacco.

Too much nicotine. Could be. But chances are you would have other nicotine OD symptoms too. Like increased anxiety, rapid pulse/heart rate... stuff like that. Lower your nic level to rule in/out.

Other. You may be having an allergic reaction problem to an ingredient in your liquids. Not necessarily even the base liquid - it could be something in the flavoring(s) itself. To rule in/out get some unflavored liquids in your usual nic level. One in 100 PG, 100 VG, and possibility a third with a PG/VG mix somewhere in between.

I had dull, chronic headaches during my first two weeks of quitting smoking/starting vaping. In retrospect I attribute those headaches to quit smoking withdrawal over anything else.

I've never heard of this complaint, and when I saw the title of this thread, I was a little shocked :ohmy:

I'm no doctor and you shouldn't rely too much on a forum, but my guess would be either too much, or a sudden reduction/craving for nicotine. Many of my friends have told me about a caffeine dependency. When they dont have a cup of coffee, they get an instant headache. It sounds like it could be a similar situation. I would possibly speak to someone at a store who really knows nicotine level in juices well...tell him exactly how much you use to smoke, which type of cigarettes, and get a judgement in that sense.
 

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Have you cut out or down caffeine intake? Excedrin Migraine has caffeine in it.
Try some caffeine, it may help.
I had bad headaches, but they went away. I think I was drinking less coffee than when I smoked.

I've cut down my coffee and tea lately but nothing drastic, just way more water to go with it. I'm not really prone to headaches so this is why I'm extra obsessive about figuring out the causes, all the signs really are pointing to excessive nicotine though.

I think I've decided that when the headaches have passed I'm going to vape nothing but 100% VG for a couple of days and see what happens, then start creeping in the PG, nicotine and flavours.
 

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I had dull, chronic headaches during my first two weeks of quitting smoking/starting vaping. In retrospect I attribute those headaches to quit smoking withdrawal over anything else.

I was fortunately spared that one. Had a lot of other whacky stuff go on (wow, the dreams... creepy) but not a headache.

Then again, I'm not prone to headaches to begin with. They're very, very rare events with me.

My sinuses, on the other hand, went insane...
 

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I was fortunately spared that one. Had a lot of other whacky stuff go on (wow, the dreams... creepy) but not a headache.

Then again, I'm not prone to headaches to begin with. They're very, very rare events with me.

My sinuses, on the other hand, went insane...

They were different than a usual headache. It was just this chronic sense of "dull headache" all over the noggin'. Some days it was barely perceptible. At it's "worst" it was just annoying simply from experiencing it for five or six hours running. Plain ibuprofen at lowest dosing would kick it away.

Dreams? Heh. What dreams? Let me tell you about my quit smoking insomnia...

All is good now. It was worth it. Even with the advantages of e-cigs some people still get hit hard with quit smoking withdrawal stuff.
 

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After three months I'm just getting past the headaches. Here's what I did: Doubled my water intake. I make sure that I have drinking water wherever I have my PV. I wwitched to lower nic juices (18mg->12mg). Then I started diluting the 18g in half to 9mg. I still get a dry, scratchy throat, and sometimes my voice gets hoarse. Oh, my fingers are always sticky - from refilling the tanks - now I carry moist hand wipes with me every where I go - those things cost almost as much as the e-juice :)
 

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I had headaches when I 1st started also, drunk tons of water but to no avail. I switched to a lower nicotine and still had them. I found out once I started mixing my own juice it went away, PG, menthol, 18mg/ml nic. I wanted more of a cloud so I finally found some VG mixed up a new batch and the headaches came back.

I figured me and VG do not mix well. So I don't use VG in my juices and been kosher ever since
 
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