real flavors super concentrates owner says not to freeze their flavors (alcohol based) as they can separate. He said they should last 12 - 18 months stored at room temp and 3 - 4 years in the fridge.
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@stols001 - You may want to investigate using flavorings that you use for cooking...in making eliquids. They're not the same ingredients-wise, and definitely aren't recommended for vaping purposes.
You also mentioned that you'd probably be making your own flavorings for eliquids later. Some people do make their own tobacco extracts/flavorings, and a very few have posted about doing it with various teas. However, I've not seen nor heard about anyone making other than those 2. Might want to check that out.
You also mentioned that you'd probably be making your own flavorings for eliquids later. Some people do make their own tobacco extracts/flavorings, and a very few have posted about doing it with various teas. However, I've not seen nor heard about anyone making other than those 2. Might want to check that out.
Okay... No, I wasn't really planning on grinding up cherries and trying to vape them... But I bet I could have some fun with NETs and teas kind of make sense, but I'm just speculating at this point. I imagine it's far easier to use flavorings, and they're pretty available at this point... I hardly use any flavoring anyway, I can really taste things now. But, I will start storing them correctly.
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Congrats on your first batch!
As far as flavorings, depending on how much you vape you will find you will go through flavorings pretty fast, especially 10ml sizes. The 10mls are nice for trying new recipes but once you get some recipes you want to stick with go with the larger sizes (4oz/120ml). The cost per batch will go down dramatically and they won't sit around long, don't think I've had a 4oz bottle last longer than 6 months.
Plus once you get experienced, your time mixing will decrease. I got the last of my flavor orders from July 4th today and kicked out 800mls in less than two hours (6 different 100ml recipes and 200ml of my fav) while catching up watching Preacher, so less than 2 hours mixing actually.
As far as flavorings, depending on how much you vape you will find you will go through flavorings pretty fast, especially 10ml sizes. The 10mls are nice for trying new recipes but once you get some recipes you want to stick with go with the larger sizes (4oz/120ml). The cost per batch will go down dramatically and they won't sit around long, don't think I've had a 4oz bottle last longer than 6 months.
Plus once you get experienced, your time mixing will decrease. I got the last of my flavor orders from July 4th today and kicked out 800mls in less than two hours (6 different 100ml recipes and 200ml of my fav) while catching up watching Preacher, so less than 2 hours mixing actually.
I just realized that you were talking about the exactness of measuring nic into a DIY bottle. I don't worry if I'm a tad over on my 3mg/ml mixes even with 100mg/ml nic. To get from 3mg to 6mg level my 50ml bottle would have to go from 1.5ml to 3ml in the mix. A drop or two isn't going to skew it much at that point. If you are doing the 100 drop method (5 ml), it probably would be detectable.
There's been significant discussion here on ECF about whether nic can separate out of solution. Those with chemistry backgrounds say that nicotine is miscible with PG and VG and won't come out of solution once it's mixed. I don't know if that means it's good for a year or 10 years without shaking, but they are adamant about it.
For safety's sake I shake the heck out of mine every time I mix. It can't hurt. I know that flavors can settle, so I shake the heck out of them every time, even if they look perfectly even in color or clarity.
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It depends not only on how much you vape, but also how much flavoring you use.
Some of us use very little, as in low single-digit percentages.
Fully aerating your nic base every time you mix can't be good for it either.
In a fresh, never opened bottle, not much. But Dave said that he shakes it every time he mixes and he implied heonky uses 1.5 ml of base at a time. If that's correct, he's aerating it 80 times before it's all used up.
I still haven't transferred my 2 liters to glass yet. I just turn the liter bottle horizontal and shake it for about 15 seconds before use. It's just beginning to be a pale orange in the dropper. I have never shaken the other liter and won't until I transfer both to glass.
My MFS nic is a year old at the end of this month. It's just been in the last 60 days that I've detected any significant color change. It never had much throat hit and that's fine with me. I like smooth. Even with the pale orange tint throat hit is very mild at my 3mg and 6mg mix strengths.
I use 1.5ml in each of six 50ml mixes, plus 6ml each in two or three 100ml bottles of unflavored as needed. I should probably be gentler with my horizontal shake to prevent oxidation, but so far that hasn't been a problem. I'm probably shaking it more gently than "heck", but I do shake and tilt back and forth before mixing.
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