Mixing Order

[Calivapr123]

Still in my first week of DIY here, bare with me if I'm slow: I was putting a 30ml bottle together today, and it just happened to be that I injected the flavorings into the bottle first, before the base. In previous experiments, I always put the PG and VG in first, and the flavorings last.

Once I got all the flavors in, I couldn't help but start shaking the bottle already, without adding the base yet. I thought it's perhaps a better way to get all the flavors mixed together already before mixing in the base. While I was at it, I thought it's probably good to have the PG, VG and Nic mixed together already, before I mixed it all in with the flavors, too.

I don't know, maybe this helps shorten the blending/steeping process? Or does it even make a difference over the short-term?

 

[myxomatosis]

Not sure, but idt it's going to make much of a difference if it all ends up properly blended. Then again, you may be on to something. It does change the order of the molecular bonds. You need a scientist well versed in molecular physics to accurately answer that.

 

[Iffy]

May I suggest that we don't over think this joose mixing thing? Just 'nail' your recipes!!!

I've mixed component by component and also using a premade nic base and some flav. Can I tell a diff? See my first statement above!

 

[john333]

I've wondered about that too. I know if I make chili it's important to mix ingredients in a certain order. So, I also mix all the flavors first then add the pg vg nic. I've also used my ultrasonic before adding the pg vg and nic. To me it doesn't take more time and it cant hurt in my opinion.

 

[FinallyQuit]

These sound like Hoosier's famous butterfly farts to me. If it pleases you to do it, and you enjoy it, then carry on. You never know, it might make a huge difference!

 

[wbbrn1952]

I add PG and VG to the bottle first - then flavorings - shake then steep in hot water for 30 minutes - allow to cool to room temp - then add my Nicotine. - Shake vigorourously - several times over the next few days. Then enjoy.

 

[myxomatosis]

Small things can make a difference, even subtle ones. In music, mastering has several steps that seem so insignificant and without purpose initially - but it eventually comes together into something that could not be, without having made those minute changes.

 

[FACE MEAT]

I've wondered about that too. I know if I make chili it's important to mix ingredients in a certain order. So, I also mix all the flavors first then add the pg vg nic. I've also used my ultrasonic before adding the pg vg and nic. To me it doesn't take more time and it cant hurt in my opinion.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're referring to adding ingredients into a hot cooking vessel in a certain order. We're not cooking anything, so different cooking times aren't taken into account, thus the order in which ingredients are added is inconsequential.

 

[Dvx67]

I don't see how it's going to make any difference. But who knows, maybe it does.

 

[Proverb31]

Still in my first week of DIY here, bare with me if I'm slow: I was putting a 30ml bottle together today, and it just happened to be that I injected the flavorings into the bottle first, before the base. In previous experiments, I always put the PG and VG in first, and the flavorings last.

Once I got all the flavors in, I couldn't help but start shaking the bottle already, without adding the base yet. I thought it's perhaps a better way to get all the flavors mixed together already before mixing in the base. While I was at it, I thought it's probably good to have the PG, VG and Nic mixed together already, before I mixed it all in with the flavors, too.

I don't know, maybe this helps shorten the blending/steeping process? Or does it even make a difference over the short-term?

I know the order matters when mixing paint colors. If you add two colors to a white base the first color dominates. Mix the same two colors in identical amounts in reverse order, you get a different color. Like blue green vs green blue. I also know little things that seem insignificant to some make all the difference in the world. For example putting a lid on the skillet when frying chicken makes the difference between blue ribbon chicken or trash that isn't good at all.

About flavors I'm not sure how the mixing works yet for sure, but I suspect the first flavor added would be the top note and the second the bottom note so to speak. Mixing the flavors together first should create a new flavor.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, this should be worth investigating and may make all the difference in some recipes.

 

[Myk]

I discovered a mixing order that seems to make a difference.

Mix pineapple, watermelon, sweetener, VG nic, VG, water and shake = clouds.
Mix apple candy, bubblegum, sweetener, VG nic, VG, water and shake = clouds.
Mix watermelon, bubblegum, sweetener, VG nic, VG, shake. Add water, shake = no clouds.

I continued the last way getting no clouds until I dropped down to making 5ml batches of single flavors and forgot to shake the water out of the needle.

The clouds still haven't come out of the Pineapple - Watermelon and it was mixed and put in the ultrasonic last night. Once I taste it I will try it with the new order and report back. But given the same ingredients were cloudy when mixed with water and weren't when mixed before water was mixed I'd say mixing order can make some kind of difference.

 

[disco180]

I discovered a mixing order that seems to make a difference.

Mix pineapple, watermelon, sweetener, VG nic, VG, water and shake = clouds.
Mix apple candy, bubblegum, sweetener, VG nic, VG, water and shake = clouds.
Mix watermelon, bubblegum, sweetener, VG nic, VG, shake. Add water, shake = no clouds.

I continued the last way getting no clouds until I dropped down to making 5ml batches of single flavors and forgot to shake the water out of the needle.

The clouds still haven't come out of the Pineapple - Watermelon and it was mixed and put in the ultrasonic last night. Once I taste it I will try it with the new order and report back. But given the same ingredients were cloudy when mixed with water and weren't when mixed before water was mixed I'd say mixing order can make some kind of difference.

So what became of this?? Did you finally get the clouds? Did the order make a difference?

 

[kuvanos]

Just mix. It makes no difference IMO.

 

[dannyv45]

Makes no difference. Just shake really good. When you make chocolate milk do you put the chocolate syrup in first or the milk in first. In the end it makes no difference as long as you stir it.