MOD question

[bdpf]

Hello,

Thinking about getting my first mod and seeking some info from more experienced vapers.

Can't really afford a Provari right now so primarily considering the Evic, Vamo and SVD.
Right now I'm leaning more towards the SVD mostly based on reviews and price vs built quality.

Questions:

1) I'd like to really understand the advantages of such a mod.
My understanding is that with any of those devices, I'll have the ability to go higher in voltage / wattage. Here's where I'm a bit confused. With my Ego twist, I can increase the voltage, ie giving me more vapor, HOWEVER, by doing so, the taste becomes nasty (aka burnt). So the problem the way I see it is not being able to heat the coil to a higher temperature but being able to wick the liquid much faster. This should be more important than the type of device used, no??
I though that people used mods only with RBAs and RDAs for this reason, to be able to control the wicking so they can increase the voltage, hence getting more vapor. However, it seems like a lot of people use these mods with standard cartos, clearos like protanks, iClears, cartotanks ... So my question is if using a Protank for example, what is the advantage of using a mod vs my Ego twist? why will a mod give me a better vape when using the same dispensing device?

2) What RBA/rda would you recommend to a noob that has never built a coil? It seems like the IGO-T for rda and AGA-T for RBA are very popular. Are they the easiest to work with?

3) are each RBA/RDA dedicated to be used with only a certain type of wicking material? For example, it seems like the AGA-T is meant for SS mesh. Also, what's you take on the SS mesh, I read some articles to say oxidize, other don't oxidize, others cover the ss mesh with cotton, others cover the ss mesh with silica... I'm going crazy just reading about it.

4) for those that have tried 2 or 3 of the devices mentioned, which one do you prefer and why?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Arson]

1) You pay for versatility and no downtime in your vape if you have multiple sets of batteries. Futhermore, you pay for consistency. The twists get really weak and pathetic anywhere below 40% of it's remaining life.

2) No RDA experience. But I would recommend a Smok RSST for an RBA.

3) I only use my RSST with 500 SS Mesh, so unfortunately, I cannot provide anymore info.

Good luck!

 

[retired1]

I have a Vamo and a SVD and the SVD is my daily driver. I second the recommendation of the RSST as a beginning RBA. Very easy to set up (make sure you also get a decent multimeter to test your coils before using) and works with many different wicking materials. I also rebuild my Protank heads. I find it easier to have a few filled Protanks for swapping out during the day.

 

[bdpf]

The RSST seems to be good, however I'm thinking to stick with a glass tank and not plastic.

 

[4mehealth]

I've found that when fully charged, the mods just have a little extra oomph. Nothing wrong with the ego. But I like that with the mods, the batteries last longer.

I have the Igo-something. The single coil version. Works well. And it seems that's my preferred method.

I have the Aga-T2. I've found it to a pain to set up the coil. I got it. But it wasn't worth the effort (IMHO). Problems rolling the wick to problems wrapping the coil. I finally got it. But it took way too long. Just haven't bothered with it since. I'm sure you've watched quite a few vids. Seems like you can use anything as a wick. Just a matter of putting in the time.

Good luck to you.

 

[bdpf]

I though the advantage of a mod was to be able to create more vapor.
Debating now as if I should invest in the mod as it seems that the only real advantage in using the mod vs the twist is longer battery life. The ego battery life is not really an issue for me as I have multiple batteries.... ..hum.

 

[retired1]

I've seen some with eGo's put dragon's to shame with the amount of vapor produced.

Even with multiple eGo type batteries, I found having to charge the darned things several times a day to be a royal pain. That's the primary reason I went to a larger device.

 

[bdpf]

I use 1.8ohm coils on my mini protank 2 and 4V seems to be the very max I can set the Ego at. Anything above that tastes burnt. That's only 9W.
So what do people use in order to vape at 10, 12, 15 watts successfully!

 

[bdpf]

What's the advantage of running a dual coil on something like an Igo-W?
Can I run a dual coil on a regulated device like the SVD?

 

[StarDose]

You won't see a big difference in getting an apv, I mainly use mine for testing my coils for my rdas now. I have an SVD and it works great, but I got into mechs and rdas so don't really use it anymore. When I'm out I use my ego twists and clearos and the rdas/mechs at home.

As for rdas the Igo L works well but would be easier for someone new if it had holes in the posts for the coils. I would recommend the Trident for a starter rda since it has slotted posts and adjustable airflow.

As for rdas I would recommend the rsst even with the polycarb tank since the agat2 can be a real pita to coil with mesh. A rocket/kayfun clone might be a better choice since I don't care for genesis rbas.

 

[bdpf]

Thanks for the input.
Is it correct if I say that the only advantage to a mech mode is the ability to vape at higher than 15W? and if I'm not planning on vaping at higher than that then a mech and a regulated device like SVD, Vamo, Provari, etc.. should be equivalent?
At least this is my understanding of it, that most regulated devices won't fire with coils below 1.2 ohms while mechs will, hence the higher wattage. If that's the case, I think 15W is pretty darn good and I don't know if I'll vape at higher than that, at least not until I get bored of the regulated APV LOL! I don't know, I've been doing a lot of reading + youtube lately and the more I read, the more lost I get LOL!

 

[bdpf]

I'm kind of holding off on the SVD now and considering mech mods. I won't lie when I say I like the way they look
For those of you using mech, do you find the fact that the vape will change as the battery goes down annoying?

 

[Concat]

Slightly annoying. I change out my batteries more often due to it, but I love mech mods more than the other options. A lot of mods accommodate a kick too if you need one.

I wouldn't get too crazy with high wattage. Sub Ohm coils make me nervous. There's no protection in a mech mod... well that's not always true. Some have collapsible springs that melt if there's a short. Just make sure your mod is vented. Most are. And if it doesn't fire, take it apart. Don't sit there clicking the on button

Another advantage to mech mods is there's not really any possibility of water damage. You could drop the mod in water and maybe you need a new battery. No electronics = less things to break.

 

[bdpf]

Thanks.

Sorry for all the noob questions but can someone explain to me what hybrids are?
I've seen quite a bit of people now posting pictures of their setup and describing their delivering devices as hybrids. I've seen Zen2 hybrid, genesis hybrid, ithaka hybrid and many more. I know those delivering devices but have no clue what the hybrid portion means.
I've also seen iHybrid, but this I believe is the battery/tube. Anything special/hybrid about it?

Thanks.

 

[Talyon]

Look at the Segelei zmax v3, to me it's a great mod, I've been using it for 4 months now, I own 2 as I like backups, lol.

I also own 3 Vamos.

My bud uses his SVD and loves it.

Mechs are good, but depend on coil builds. Yes I'll be getting a bagua soon.

For an RDA try the octopus, there is nothing simpler. I love mine, because it's easy to coil.

Then possibly move on to the Ithaca, or kayfun clones I'm going for one of each lol.

Canvape carries all of the above.

 

[farmer_bric]

Thanks.

Sorry for all the noob questions but can someone explain to me what hybrids are?
I've seen quite a bit of people now posting pictures of their setup and describing their delivering devices as hybrids. I've seen Zen2 hybrid, genesis hybrid, ithaka hybrid and many more. I know those delivering devices but have no clue what the hybrid portion means.
I've also seen iHybrid, but this I believe is the battery/tube. Anything special/hybrid about it?

Thanks.

As far as I know, and I don't own a hybrid, is that it just means a proprietary connection. Personally I only want a standard open source connection (ie 510) being an old unix type of guy, but the hybrids do look nice

From viewing some of Todd's videos, it seems that some people are offering intermediate connectors for some higher end mech devices, so they can look like hybrids.

 

[Glenn_K]

Thanks.

Sorry for all the noob questions but can someone explain to me what hybrids are?
I've seen quite a bit of people now posting pictures of their setup and describing their delivering devices as hybrids. I've seen Zen2 hybrid, genesis hybrid, ithaka hybrid and many more. I know those delivering devices but have no clue what the hybrid portion means.
I've also seen iHybrid, but this I believe is the battery/tube. Anything special/hybrid about it?

Thanks.

Greetings; I'm no expert, but I think a hybrid is basically a mech mod that comes with an integrated rba system, a sort of all-in-one.

I've checked out some of the iHybrid mods, which I think look very cool. The description for the following model talks about being a 'rebuildable' APV: iHybrid Pure

Regards
Glenn

 

[Concat]

Mechs are good, but depend on coil builds. Yes I'll be getting a bagua soon.

Thought I'd chime in... you don't need to make your own coils or use a RBA to want a mech. I just use clearos on mine.

 

[FarmYard]

a mech and a rda such as a igo w will give much better performance if buillt right with the right batteries.and for 20 dollars worth of cotton and 28 gauge wire you can build coils for a year.and you can drop the mg down alot as well.i went from 24mg in cartos to 5mg in my igo w and the 5mg hits just as hard if not harder.

i had an ihybrid standard and had to sell it because i always keep my mod in my pocket and when you sit down with a tank full of juice it usually ends up lining your pocket with ejuice.and the "genny tilt" was super annoying with all the dry hits.

in my 5 years of vaping i have tried pretty much everything and for a consistent vape that tastes great, the rebuildable dripping atomizer wins hands down.

 

[Concat]

I've tried a few rebuildables, including a dripper hybrid and I must just suck at building coils because I can never get them to be any better than my go to cartos/clearos. That and the rebuildables don't seem to deliver vapor that is very warm... I can only assume the metal cap that fits on top robs the vapor of a lot of heat.

I've given up on trying, but I do wish I could try a good rebuildable set up. None of my buddies vape though.