mods blowing up? Really?

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ddkl7780

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Ive had sub ohm builds as low as .08 on my 26650 take short pulls maybe 3-4 sec. Not really good for all day vaping or chain vaping. I keep it normally ard .12 havent had any issues. Sure there are accidents there has to be but Id say its prob more the persons fault not knowing their limits or using wrong equipment. I know many ppl strictly sub ohm and never known anyone to have anything blow up on them.
 

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There's one or two of these threads everyday. The same few people try to give information to keep people safe. And then there's the other few idiots that pop in and talk about how they only pulse their mod so it's safe and it won't vent or blow up.

Whatever, blow your face off I don't care anymore.

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Sorry, I'm not saying you shouldn't be safe, I'm all for safety...and I think I'm sticking at 0.5, I'm just wondering why there is such a lack...with all the noobs, you'd think it would be more common. Ive not yet gone below. 0.3, and don't really plan on it, 0.5 is my sweet spot.
 

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Found that out last night. 0.7 is not good enough, 0.5 does me fine. First time vaping 0.5, if it's fine, no need to go lower IMO. 9 amp draw, no death. Just this thread was spurred from reading in new members forum somebody mentioned a hand blowing up, and seeing all the posts in there, I figured, I haven't heard of many. Mods blowing, but new members forum definitely. Not the place for such a thread, don't want someone thinking....ya...mods don't blow that often and building a 0.0002 ohm coil and blowing. Off their face....so I posted here.
 

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    Plus the face one was most likely just an ego or cigalike from What I heard about it earlier... doesn't say it was a mechanical mod, and three of those posts were about the same incident

    It was a mechanical made by PureSmoker, and this was the end result. (lawyers love this stuff)

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    I've had several hard shorts, mostly due to my Russian positive post twisting. It gets hot immediately. I release the button and open the cap. Battery, mod and hands all intact. Unless it's fireing on it's own and too hot to remove the cap I just don't see how people blow up mods.


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    Sneaking up on 4 years and still have never had a short even tho' I use mechanicals all the time.
     

    tj99959

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    Aren't you special. Ever taken a Russian apart? It's a design flaw and a dangerous one.

    Yes I have, but I took the time to assemble it properly, and then TEST it before putting it back on a PV!

    Sounds like a resistance tester would be a good investment for you. They cost less than just one of those batteries you ruined.
     
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    nynvolt

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    Really? Then you should probably pull it back apart and add O rings around the positive post and an extra one under the adjustment screw to keep it from turning on you. Or maybe you have the tobecco clone. It doesn't suffer from this flaw. Also, I know your an expert because you joined this forum before me but just a FYI. Your coils can actually expand and contract when heated and cooled repeatedly. This can cause the center block to twist on the post, as well as adjusting the 510 adjust screw. I did in fact invest in an ohm meter, thank you for the suggestion and I can assure you I diligently test my equipment. I even clean it all by myself.

    I appreciate your attention, especially since your such an awesome contributed of information in this thread!

    Thank you!
     

    AshMPWrites

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    I actually bought a Russian this evening to see if I'd like being on a RBA as compared to my Aspire. Since I'm pretty new and not familiar with the whole coil building, I turned the job over to the owner who built it for me at a .8 ohm (he said the maker of the Russian recommends being between .7-.9 for max flavor). I normally vape on 12W and 5 volts, but my DNA display started blinking almost immediately and I had to up the whole thing. It gave beautiful flavor, but the ohm dropped down to a .7 and I took it off my mod, cleaned it out, boxed it back up and set it aside. I'm going to have another shop build the coil at 1.7-1.8, consistent with my Nautilus and let my husband use it on his Atlas box mod -- he doesn't vape nearly as often nor for as long as I do.

    I'm going to be honest. All of this terrifies me. As much as I'd love to explore the technology and get the best possible vape when it comes to flavor, the picture above are harrowing. I like having ten fingers and my job depends on me keeping them all.
     

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    Who is the maker of The Russian?

    Not really sure, but as I understand it, one of the designers of the Kayfun left his partnership and developed the Russian. I have not idea if that's correct or not, but I suspect that's why you see "Designed in Russia, Made in Germany" on the bottom of the Kayfun...
     

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    The Russian is made in China. Any more it's kind of funny that people keep paying $100 for a Russian since $40 Kayfun clones are now made in the same plant.
    The real Kayfun is made in Germany.

    I stand corrected, the Russian is distributed by Kebo, indeed a Chinese company -- https://www.facebook.com/kebotech

    EDIT: If you look here, it does say they are the Manufacturers -- http://www.kebochina.com/products/Categories/Clearomizer/344.html

    haha...and even they link to pbusardo videos :p
     
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    I actually bought a Russian this evening to see if I'd like being on a RBA as compared to my Aspire. Since I'm pretty new and not familiar with the whole coil building, I turned the job over to the owner who built it for me at a .8 ohm (he said the maker of the Russian recommends being between .7-.9 for max flavor). I normally vape on 12W and 5 volts, but my DNA display started blinking almost immediately and I had to up the whole thing. It gave beautiful flavor, but the ohm dropped down to a .7 and I took it off my mod, cleaned it out, boxed it back up and set it aside. I'm going to have another shop build the coil at 1.7-1.8, consistent with my Nautilus and let my husband use it on his Atlas box mod -- he doesn't vape nearly as often nor for as long as I do.

    I'm going to be honest. All of this terrifies me. As much as I'd love to explore the technology and get the best possible vape when it comes to flavor, the picture above are harrowing. I like having ten fingers and my job depends on me keeping them all.

    That's a known issue with a DNA board. It can only adjust the voltage up. So if your wattage setting requires less voltage than the battery has, the DNA switches to unregulated voltage. And, the screen flashes to tell you that it has done so. Put a 1.5+ ohm coil in your Russian, and vape away.
    The DNA can give you enough voltage that there is no need to go sub ohm.
     
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    The Russian is made in China. Any more it's kind of funny that people keep paying $100 for a Russian since $40 Kayfun clones are now made in the same plant.
    The real Kayfun is made in Germany.

    Yes, the point is the owner of the B&M in post #31 either lied or had no idea what he was talking about... The maker of the Russian is a faceless PRC 'clone' company... They don't offer a recommendation of what ohm coil to use.
     

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    Not really sure, but as I understand it, one of the designers of the Kayfun left his partnership and developed the Russian. I have not idea if that's correct or not, but I suspect that's why you see "Designed in Russia, Made in Germany" on the bottom of the Kayfun...

    This is a widely spread myth. The Russian is a clone of the Kayfun. All the people who designed the Kayfun still work there. The Russian was a copy that had an extra feature or two that the original Kayfun creators quickly added to their next generations. It has good build quality, but it's just a clone. No more "authentic" than any of the other Kayfun clones out there. Then again, you could argue one or two features changed made it authentic I suppose, that's what the Erlkonigen, Orchid, etc. do after all.
     

    JMarca

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    Just looking in to how ... verifiable this is

    I mean, People on here talking almost like this is a daily occurance.

    I really dont hear of it happening all that often, and there are probably a lot more subohmers than all would like to believe, even as most seem to vehementely (I think thats a word) Evangelize AGAINST it...

    But I was looking up mods blowing up, and most people say that your mod is not going to blow up unless you have a really cheap old mod that has no air holes on the area with the battery...
    So it seems that the only mods that are dangerous are those mods then? Just seems like with all the people sub ohm building, there would be more mods blowing up. I know it cant just be because ther general population is smart. There are maybe more smart people here, but, In the world...,.nah


    and then people talk about blowing up your hand, as if at some point your just sitting there, and then with absolutely NO warning, the mod would just blow... i am sure idiots wouldnt be sitting there watching it vent for 2-3 minutes.... in their hand, not noticing it getting super hot, and allow it to blow in their hand

    And even from the instances where we do have mods exploding, (which is a stageringly low amount to my knowledge) How can people be sure that that is due to the Low ohm more than to a short in the coil or the battery or the mod?
    Many people talk about the continuous rating of batteries, but in my experience, the lower the ohm, the shorter the pull! My sweet spot now is 0.5 (Which is a 9amp draw) . At that level then highest pull I can get is at about 4-5 seconds. MAybe the pull has more to do with airflow on your RBA I guess,


    Anyways, I am beginning to Rant!

    People around here (in this neighborhood) don't typically get robbed, stabbed, murdered or generally mistreated. Yet I go downtown and visit my brother in law (NYPD detective) and he tells me they had 263 murders, over 300 rape attempts and a whopping 1300 robberies that's just since Jan of this year. What we might not see first hand should not be ignored, things happen even to the best of us. My father before he died taught me to prepare for the worst but hope for the best, taking a few simple precautions to be safe won't kill you but carelessly mishandling and misusing high discharge batteries might!

    My 0.02 cents...
     

    nynvolt

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    The Russian is machined by UCT, distributed by kebo. It IS a clone of the kayfun but with adjustable airflow, adjustable 510 and a removable drip tip. First run had an adapter, later versions just had a removable 510 drip tip.

    The kayfun quickly countered by adding the same.

    It's Chinese but of very high quality and prior to the kayfun adding the same features, was arguably better than the kayfun. Machining is just as good on both.

    The shop that told you the company reccomends a .8 build is full of it. You can build it to personal preference. I wouldn't recommend it because of the positive block issue but it can be remedied and is a great atomizer otherwise. Excellent flavor IMO.
     
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