Mods/ Tanks for High VG that work for MTL

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There's a Zenith and a Zenith D22. The Zenith D22 will fit. The Zenith is too big. I haven't used them but they are popular. I use rebuildable atomizers. Any 22mm atomizer will fit.

The bad taste would be some problem with cotton. Are you priming the coils with some e-liquid and letting them sit for a bit before use? The cotton needs to be saturated before use. Are you chain vaping and getting burnt hits?

Make sure that you buy your Pico 75 from a reliable dealer. Most of the ones on Ebay are fakes. The fakes are usable for W mode but TC mode doesn't work.
I got the Pico from a website misthubs is that a reliable source? I did prime and it leaked bad for the nautilus. I seen the nautilus can handle high vg but I have to be doing something wrong or it really can’t handle max juice
 
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I got the Pico from a website misthubs is that a reliable source? I did prime and it leaked bad for the nautilus. I seen the nautilus can handle high vg but I have to be doing something wrong or it really can’t handle max juice
Ohh, and will the zenith d22 handle Max VG? I almost bought a cool fire mini form the vape shop by me but he said to get the mag baby and aspire.
 
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I got the Pico from a website misthubs is that a reliable source? I did prime and it leaked bad for the nautilus. I seen the nautilus can handle high vg but I have to be doing something wrong or it really can’t handle max juice

I don't know Misthubs. Good that you avoided Ebay though

Ohh, and will the zenith d22 handle Max VG? I almost bought a cool fire mini form the vape shop by me but he said to get the mag baby and aspire.

I think both sizes use the same coils. Ask if anyone is using a Zenith with max VG in this topic:
Innokin Zenith MTL tank--Phil Busardo

There's 57 pages of posts so someone will hopefully have lots of experience with it. I only use rebuildables (Kayfun, Doggy, Dvarw) except for small pods and all in ones with prebuilt coils.
 
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Most attys can handle 100% vg but you live on the edge of taking a draw thats too long, too weak, too strong, too often. I dont think the Zenith is a good choice at all. I have spent time with it and VG/VG nic base, its a gentle vape experience where you nurse it to avoid a dry hit.
If you use at least 5% dw then its no problem but just VG and its not a casual forget about and chain vape experience.
Max VG isnt 100% vg, its more like 85% VG, a Zenith can do this but you still have to be conscious of your draw and technique.
 

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Most attys can handle 100% vg but you live on the edge of taking a draw thats too long, too weak, too strong, too often. I dont think the Zenith is a good choice at all. I have spent time with it and VG/VG nic base, its a gentle vape experience where you nurse it to avoid a dry hit.
If you use at least 5% dw then its no problem but just VG and its not a casual forget about and chain vape experience.
Max VG isnt 100% vg, its more like 85% VG, a Zenith can do this but you still have to be conscious of your draw and technique.
Ah so shirt intermitten puffs I can’t drag on it like I would a cig
 
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Kristin Hogue, you've got the idea of Mouth To Lung, it's very similar to smoking a cigarette.

But I think that the problem you're describing is dry hits, it's where the liquid doesn't wick well and the coil dries out. Then you start toasting to burning your coil, and it tastes awful.
So what could I use that wicks well? I am coming from an AIO that handled it but died way to quick and the amount of juice was ridiculous little.
I now have the mag baby with aspire nautilus 2 and Pico 75w with melo4 is coming
 
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Kristin Hogue, a work around is to add a little Distilled Water to your liquid to thin it.

Just try a small test batch (10ml) with 5% Distilled, and if it still isn't quite right make another test and increase by another 5%. Just keep on going until it's wicking well, but it's not too runny that you get flooding and leaking.

And don't forget to jot down notes, nothing worse than getting things right and forgetting how to do it.
 
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So what could I use that wicks well? I am coming from an AIO that handled it but died way to quick and the amount of juice was ridiculous little.
I now have the mag baby with aspire nautilus 2 and Pico 75w with melo4 is coming
Are you using max vg or 100%vg?
 
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What’s RDA? I’m truly new to all tis since I have done AIOs every time I tried this journey but get sick of how they work so I’m venturing out.
An RDA is a rebuildable dripping atomiser. You install your own coils and cotton and then drip your preferred liquid into it. They used to be about the only way to get decent flavour.

If the rebuildable element seems too much there is ''The Goat'' which is an RDA which comes with a prebuilt coil/cotton element which you merely screw in like a drop in coil. Not sure how well it works for MTL though but the inventor like MTL so it's probably good. I hope this is of some help :)
 
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My guess is your wattages are too high/you are chain vaping too much. With max VG you have to be a bit... I guess I would call it dainty and delicate.

With max VG in an N2, quite often (depending on coil resistance) I would be at like, 8 or 9 watts. You have to. You also CAN sort of have a longer draw, and also KEEP inhaling as you let go of the fire button, and it will wick juice into the coil as you go. Avoids dry hits, which is what I think you are getting.

You are going to have to modify your technique and rotate tanks to get the results you desire, it's just how it IS. Etc.

I know you have said, again and again that you don't want to add distilled water, but I really think a few drops in your tank might help you--- Help you avoid BURNT which is a flavor you don't want.

Also, I know you are going from DL which you say you hate.... But you need to modify the style of your draw, turn the wattage down, prime thoroughly, etc. That is the life of MTL and 100% VG.

I really don't think it's your tanks necessarily. It's you. Modify.

Anna
 

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Kristin Hogue, if all else fails you'll need to start looking into rebuildable dripping atomisers and how to make coils and wick them. And also squonking, it's where you use a bottle to feed liquid to the RDA (works with any thickness of liquid).

An example of an RDA.
Ammit MTL RDA

And with coils, you can buy pre made on a reel. All you have to do is wrap it round a form to make them. There's more, but let's start with an introduction.
 
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My guess is your wattages are too high/you are chain vaping too much. With max VG you have to be a bit... I guess I would call it dainty and delicate.

With max VG in an N2, quite often (depending on coil resistance) I would be at like, 8 or 9 watts. You have to. You also CAN sort of have a longer draw, and also KEEP inhaling as you let go of the fire button, and it will wick juice into the coil as you go. Avoids dry hits, which is what I think you are getting.

You are going to have to modify your technique and rotate tanks to get the results you desire, it's just how it IS. Etc.

I know you have said, again and again that you don't want to add distilled water, but I really think a few drops in your tank might help you--- Help you avoid BURNT which is a flavor you don't want.

Also, I know you are going from DL which you say you hate.... But you need to modify the style of your draw, turn the wattage down, prime thoroughly, etc. That is the life of MTL and 100% VG.

I really don't think it's your tanks necessarily. It's you. Modify.

Anna
Thank you, I wasn’t sure if it was me or something I did or the tanks I got. I’ll try the sucking and doing it longer.
 
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it says pure vg I get the 24 nic solution with vg base from wizard labs. It’s mostly clear to a yellow tint depending on the batch they make. It’s the only place I was told to use. Not sure if other places have that cause it takes so long to come in.
Kristin Hogue?!?!?

That is 100% vg.
Sorry, I thought you were buying premade juice. Max VG isnt 100% vg when you buy premade flavoured juices.

I vape just vg when I try a new brand or supplier just to get a taste for it, not all vg tastes the same when you vape it. with a naut2, zenith or similar you cant vape on it like you would 70/30 or 60/40, not for extended chain vape sessions. You can vape it though, you just have to alter your vape style..... just like @stols001 already responded.
I know you have already been told this but you can make all these problems go away by simply mixing in 5 to10% distilled water. 4 drops from a dropper into a zenith sized tank is 5% dw.
 

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Kristin Hogue?!?!?

That is 100% vg.
Sorry, I thought you were buying premade juice. Max VG isnt 100% vg when you buy premade flavoured juices.

I vape just vg when I try a new brand or supplier just to get a taste for it, not all vg tastes the same when you vape it. with a naut2, zenith or similar you cant vape on it like you would 70/30 or 60/40, not for extended chain vape sessions. You can vape it though, you just have to alter your vape style..... just like @stols001 already responded.
I know you have already been told this but you can make all these problems go away by simply mixing in 5 to10% distilled water. 4 drops from a dropper into a zenith sized tank is 5% dw.
What if I add the flavor shots they sell into the mix? Would that allow me to vape the way I want to? Or do I really need to add the water?
 
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