Mods with built in batteries?

[GrandSam]

So I'm in the market for a new mod. I noticed that VaporShark released a dna 40 with a non-user replaceable battery (LG 18650, 35A). My biggest gripe with this is, I do not want to spend $25 to replace the battery + $5 to ship the mod, when the battery goes bad.

Question is, how long could I expect such a battery/mod to last me before having to send it in to VS?
I usually charge my Sony VTC4's and 5's once a day (1 battery per day, if not 1.5 days).

 

[Cotay]

So I'm in the market for a new mod. I noticed that VaporShark released a DNA 40 with a non-user replaceable battery (LG 18650, 35A). My biggest gripe with this is, I do not want to spend $25 to replace the battery + $5 to ship the mod, when the battery goes bad.

Question is, how long could I expect such a battery/mod to last me before having to send it in to VS?
I usually charge my Sony VTC4's and 5's once a day (1 battery per day, if not 1.5 days).

The life expectancy really depends on your vaping habits and charge cycles. They put an 18650 in the DNA40 I believe, so you will get probably 1-2 years if not more use out of it with moderate vaping (but you may notice some drop off in longevity before it goes bad completely). By the time the battery goes bad, you are likely to then be onto something new and much better. That said, if you are at all comfortable with soldering, the batteries are really quite easy to replace. I wouldn't dream of sending it into VS for a battery replacement myself...I can do that on my own.

 

[edyle]

So I'm in the market for a new mod. I noticed that VaporShark released a DNA 40 with a non-user replaceable battery (LG 18650, 35A). My biggest gripe with this is, I do not want to spend $25 to replace the battery + $5 to ship the mod, when the battery goes bad.

Question is, how long could I expect such a battery/mod to last me before having to send it in to VS?
I usually charge my Sony VTC4's and 5's once a day (1 battery per day, if not 1.5 days).

Just remember when you buy a fixed battery box, you're basically casting your vote, and the producers will produce more fixed battery mods that you're going to end up repeat buying, which is a market strategy for them.

I recommend those fixed battery mods for new vapers, but for experienced vapers, unless they got no problem spending the money, the better system is the replaceable battery mods using 18650 batteries.

 

[GrandSam]

Thanks gentlemen. The reason I ask is because I was offered a brand new DNA 40 (VS) for $100. That's $60 less than what it would cost me if I were to buy it directly from VS. I'd still prefer to own the model with the ability to change batteries...but at $100 this one is hard to pass up. I may just go with the clone for $85.

 

[gpjoe]

Just remember when you buy a fixed battery box, you're basically casting your vote, and the producers will produce more fixed battery mods that you're going to end up repeat buying, which is a market strategy for them.

I recommend those fixed battery mods for new vapers, but for experienced vapers, unless they got no problem spending the money, the better system is the replaceable battery mods using 18650 batteries.

Yeah, except you are not considering form factor. My Vaporshark DNA40 is MUCH smaller than the rDNA40 and also lighter. So, if you want to carry a smaller and lighter mod in your pocket the trade off (in this case) is the non-user replaceable battery whether you are an "experienced vaper" or not.

I have been vaping for a while, have owned many mods (Hana, Vaporshark, ZNA, Yihi Mini, Sigelei, Cloupor, Vapor Flask, Hexohm, iStick, Reo, Super T, etc, etc) and recently sold my VS rDNA40, but kept my VS DNA40 because of the smaller package.

 

[smartersmoking]

I believe that it comes down to personal preference and usage. Many mods cannot be used while charging (check the user manual), so once it dead, it needs to be plugged in to recharge and you wouldn't be able to use it during that time. That is one reason why I personally use replaceable battery mods. And I also like to rotate my batteries, which tends to extend the overall life of all my batteries. If it's a good deal, you could get this mod, and maybe buy another one to use while this one charges (that's one idea). The 'back-up' mod wouldn't need to be anything expensive or fancy, just something to cover you with enough power for your vaping needs. And if you tend to charge in the evening (if needed), you would probably be home, so size wouldn't be as big a deal. Just thought I'd throw some ideas out here!!

 

[Spirometry]

Thanks gentlemen. The reason I ask is because I was offered a brand new DNA 40 (VS) for $100. That's $60 less than what it would cost me if I were to buy it directly from VS. I'd still prefer to own the model with the ability to change batteries...but at $100 this one is hard to pass up. I may just go with the clone for $85.

You better go back and check VS website, they dropped their prices.

DNA 40 $100
rDNA40 $130

 

[GrandSam]

You better go back and check VS website, they dropped their prices.

DNA 40 $100
rDNA40 $130

They sure did. The quoted post was posted prior to them doing so. I purchased the rDNA 40 just last week.

 

[hashtag]

I would count on a year and hope for more.

 

[Jorge22]

There's a current trend, especially in box mods, to set the devices to use only watts and not volts. Well, personally I can do pretty well without the watts although I think having both is a good thing. And I have yet to understand why on earth they're building their devices with only watts as I'm sure they might have more customers that way, namely I and people like me, people who prefer using VV.
As for built-in batteries, that's also a no-no for me. I suppose it may be a con to others as well.
It seems safer to be able to charge the battery out of the device. Plus, if one can use removable batteries it seems like the devices may last longer (or, at least, there's no need to send the mod so that the battery's replaced), if not technically, at least psychologically.
I don't know, if I manufactured mods, I'd take a more flexible approach...

 

[SleeZy]

I've one reason to dislike inbuilt batteries. If something goes bad, it'll go realy bad IE catching flames or worse.
Then i rather prefer using batteries that i know will vent rather than catching fire + it's easier to dispose it.

And the biggest pro is that you can just exchange batteries once it runs out, on the go. With inbuilt you've to wait for it to recharge again.

 

[jersey_emt]

This was definitely a concern for me when I was choosing which "high-power" box mod to buy. I went with the iTaste MVP 3.0 Pro, which has an onboard battery. Had it been a different manufacturer I would have balked, but my years-old MVP 2.0 is still working great, and many others are also still happily using their MVP 2.0 (and even the original MVP). My iTaste VV 3.0, bought at the same time as the MVP 2.0, is also still holding a charge just as well as it did when brand new.

I know that Innokin builds their products to last, and that they use high-quality cells. The MVP 3.0 Pro can also be safely vaped on while charging, although with its large 4500 mAh battery, I've never had to do so -- it lasts the entire day and is still nowhere even close to needing to be charged.

It will also make traveling much easier. I won't need to pack my 4-bay charger unless I want to bring along a mechanical mod, just a USB cord.

 

[classwife]

Moved to Variable Voltage APV Discussion from APV Discussion

 

[stevegmu]

The battery will probably outlive the mod in most cases...