Had to push back the juice test on the vapor titan series for a bit thanks to another project that came up. A little while back my good friend Snow sir asked if there was any way I could compile all my testing info into one post for easier access. Hopefully this will make it easier for everyone to track down the info. Won't be including the tests done on the first edition of the king diamonds simply because they've been replaced by the second edition... 
Shorty Bargin bin voltages 4/29/11 (which the standard shorties mirror pretty well in my unposted tests):
I tested two of them early this morning using a wow carto at 2.2ohm as to give a direct comparison to the king diamond series shorties. Same method applied of chain vaping and checking every 9 minutes, directly after being taken off the charger...
Shorty #1
4.2 (at start), 4.18 (9min), 4.16 (18min), 4.13 (27min), 4.08 (36min), 4.01 (45min), 3.97 (54min), 3.92 (63min), 3.86 (72min), 3.81 (81min), 3.77 (90min), 3.72 (99min), 3.66 (108min), 1 minute later needed to be recharged afterwards
Shorty #2
4.2 (as), 4.16 (9min), 4.13 (18min), 4.09 (27min), 4.02 (36min), 3.94 (45min), 3.91 (54min), 3.88 (63min), 3.85 (72min), 3.83 (81min), 3.8 (90min), 3.77 (99min), 3.73 (108min), 3.65 (117min), 2 minutes later flashes....
Manual regular sized voltages from 5/6/11:
These tests were done with wow carts at 2.2ohm and cool carts at 3.3ohm. They were chain vaped fresh off the charger. I used the two newest manuals I own for these tests (one recharged 3 times, the other 4).
Wow cartos 2.2ohm
Manual #1
4.2 (at start), 4.15 (9min), 4.11 (18min), 4.06 (27min), 4.01 (36min), 3.93 (45 min), 3.84 (54min), 3.76 (63min), 3.75 (72min), 3.73 (81min), 3.72 (90min), 3.71 (99min), 3.7 (108min), 3.71 (117min), 3.7 (126 min), 3.69 (135min), 3.68 (144min), 3.66 (153min), 3.64 (162min), 3.61 (171min), 3.59 (180min), 3.52 (189min), roughly a minute later flashes...
Manual #2
4.2 (at start), 4.13 (9min), 4.09 (18min), 4.02 (27min), 3.95 (36min), 3.91 (45 min), 3.83 (54min), 3.78 (63min), 3.76 (72min), 3.74 (81min), 3.72 (90min), 3.71 (99min), 3.71 (108min), 3.7 (117min), 3.7 (126 min), 3.7 (135min), 3.7 (144min), 3.68 (153min), 3.66 (162min), 3.63 (171min), 3.6 (180min), 3.58 (189min), 3.55 (198min), 7 minutes later flashies...
Cool Carts at 3.3
Manual #1
4.2 (at start), 4.16 (9min), 4.13 (18min), 4.08 (27min), 4.03 (36min), 3.94 (45 min), 3.86 (54min), 3.81 (63min), 3.77 (72min), 3.75 (81min), 3.73 (90min), 3.71 (99min), 3.71 (108min), 3.71 (117min), 3.71 (126 min), 3.7 (135min), 3.7 (144min), 3.69 (153min), 3.69 (162min), 3.66 (171min), 3.66 (180min), 3.63 (189min), 3.63 (198min), 3.62 (207min), 3.6 (216min), 3.59 (225min), 3.56 (234min), 3.52 (243min) roughly 6 minute later recharge...
Manual #2
4.2 (at start), 4.15 (9min), 4.08 (18min), 4.03 (27min), 3.95 (36min), 3.88 (45 min), 3.83 (54min), 3.79 (63min), 3.74 (72min), 3.72 (81min), 3.72 (90min), 3.72 (99min), 3.72 (108min), 3.71 (117min), 3.71 (126 min), 3.71 (135min), 3.71 (144min), 3.7 (153min), 3.7 (162min), 3.69 (171min), 3.69 (180min), 3.66 (189min), 3.65 (198min), 3.64 (207min), 3.62 (216min), 3.6 (225min), 3.6 (234min), 3.59 (243min), 3.53 (252min) roughly 4 minute later flashes again...
Stealth V2 Voltages from 5/6/11:
These tests were performed with both wow cartos at 2.2 ohm and cool carts at 3.3ohm. Same thing as before they are fresh off the charger and then straight to chain vaping...
With Wow cartos at 2.2ohm
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.04 (81min), 4.03 (90min), 4.01 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after 4 and a half minutes it stopped producing vapor
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.14 (45min), 4.13 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.06 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.74 (126min) 2 minutes later no vapor again...
Regular #1
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.15 (45 min), 4.13 (54min), 4.11 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.05 (81min), 4.01 (90min), 3.99 (99min), 3.97 (108min), 3.93 (117min), 3.91 (126 min), 3.89 (135min), 3.85 (144min), 3.81 (153min), 3.79 (162min), 3.76 (171min), 3.71 (180min), 4 minutes time for recharge...
Regular #2
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.18 (36min), 4.16 (45 min), 4.15 (54min), 4.12 (63min), 4.05 (72min), 4.01 (81min), 3.96 (90min), 3.91 (99min), 3.88 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.85 (126 min), 3.83 (135min), 3.81 (144min), 3.79 (153min), 3.75 (162min), 3.73 (171min), 2 minutes in no vapor again...
So far only tested the one XL (all I own as of right now), but have run the test twice to see if there were any changes...
XL Test 1
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.19 (36min), 4.17 (45min), 4.15 (54min), 4.14 (63min), 4.13 (72min), 4.11 (81min), 4.09 (90min), 4.08 (99min), 4.06 (108min), 4.04 (117min), 4.03 (126min), 4.01 (135min), 4.01 (144min), 3.98 (153min), 3.97 (162min), 3.95 (171min), 3.93 (180min), 3.91 (189min), 3.89 (198min), 3.87 (207min), 3.83 (216min), 3.81 (225min), 3.79 (234min), 3.76 (243min), 3.72 (252min), 2 minutes later recharge...
Xl Test 2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.19 (36min), 4.18 (45min), 4.16 (54min), 4.14 (63min), 4.13 (72min), 4.10 (81min), 4.09 (90min), 4.08 (99min), 4.07 (108min), 4.04 (117min), 4.02 (126min), 4.01 (135min), 4.01 (144min), 3.99 (153min), 3.97 (162min), 3.94 (171min), 3.93 (180min), 3.91 (189min), 3.89 (198min), 3.87 (207min), 3.85 (216min), 3.82 (225min), 3.80 (234min), 3.75 (243min), 3.73 (252min), 3 minutes later recharge...
A very slight change, but nothing that really stands out...
With Cool Carts at 3.3ohm
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.14 (45min), 4.12 (54min), 4.10 (63min), 4.09 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 4.01 (117min), 3.97 (126min), 3.91 (135min), 3.84 (144min), 3.75 (153), after 3 puffs it stopped producing vapor...
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.14 (54min), 4.12 (63min), 4.10 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.04 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 4.01 (117min), 4.0 (126min), 3.88 (135min), 3.73 (144min), after about 90 seconds it stopped....
Have only tested one regular so far with the CC's, but here are the results:
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.16 (45 min), 4.15 (54min), 4.13 (63min), 4.11 (72min), 4.08 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.97 (117min), 3.96 (126 min), 3.94 (135min), 3.91 (144min), 3.89 (153min), 3.87 (162min), 3.85 (171min), 3.81 (180min), 3.79 (189min), 3.76 (198min), 3.74 (207min), 3.71 (216min), 2 minutes later recharge time...
King Diamond v2 voltages from 5/15/11:
These tests were performed with both wow cartos at 2.2 ohm and cool carts at 3.3ohm. Same thing as before they are fresh off the charger and then straight to chain vaping...
With Wow cartos at 2.2ohm
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.10 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.01 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.98 (90min), 3.97 (99min), 3.94 (108min), 3.88 (117min), 3.71 (126min), 2 puffs later flashes.
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.02 (54min), 4.01 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.97 (81min), 3.95 (90min), 3.91 (99min), 3.89 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 6 minutes later flashes.
Regular #1
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.14 (45 min), 4.12 (54min), 4.1 (63min), 4.07 (72min), 4.03 (81min), 4.0 (90min), 3.96 (99min), 3.94 (108min), 3.92 (117min), 3.9 (126 min), 3.88 (135min), 3.84 (144min), 3.8 (153min), 3.78 (162min), 3.75 (171min), 3.71 (180min), 2 minutes later it was time again for recharge...
Regular #2
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.18 (36min), 4.17 (45 min), 4.16 (54min), 4.13 (63min), 4.04 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.94 (90min), 3.89 (99min), 3.85 (108min), 3.82 (117min), 3.8 (126 min), 3.79 (135min), 3.76 (144min), 3.74 (153min), 3.71 (162min), roughly 5 puffs later flashy flashy.
XL #1
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.19 (36min), 4.18 (45min), 4.17 (54min), 4.13 (63min), 4.11 (72min), 4.09 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 4.0 (117min), 3.99 (126min), 3.97 (135min), 3.97 (144min), 3.94 (153min), 3.94 (162min), 3.91 (171min), 3.9 (180min), 3.9 (189min), 3.87 (198min), 3.85 (207min), 3.82 (216min), 3.8 (225min), 3.78 (234min), 3.74 (243min), 5 minutes later flashes once again...
Xl #2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.18 (36min), 4.17 (45min), 4.16 (54min), 4.15 (63min), 4.13 (72min), 4.11 (81min), 4.09 (90min), 4.09 (99min), 4.07 (108min), 4.06 (117min), 4.03 (126min), 4.01 (135min), 4.0 (144min), 3.99 (153min), 3.97 (162min), 3.93 (171min), 3.92 (180min), 3.91 (189min), 3.89 (198min), 3.86 (207min), 3.84 (216min), 3.82 (225min), 3.80 (234min), 3.74 (243min), 3.71 (252min), 2 1/2 minutes later recharge needed...
They don't last as long as the Stealth v2's (guessing the led does come into play), but still do a great job all in all.
With Cool Carts at 3.3ohm
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.2 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.16 (45min), 4.13 (54min), 4.12 (63min), 4.1 (72min), 4.09 (81min), 4.04 (90min), 4.02 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 4.0 (117min), 3.96 (126min), 3.9 (135min), 3.83 (144min), 3.71 (153), got one puff before flashes...
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.16 (45min), 4.15 (54min), 4.11 (63min), 4.09 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 4.01 (117min), 3.97 (126min), 3.84 (135min), 3.71 (144min), after 3 puffs once again flash time....
Regular #1
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45 min), 4.13 (54min), 4.12 (63min), 4.10 (72min), 4.08 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.02 (99min), 4.0 (108min), 3.98 (117min), 3.94 (126 min), 3.92 (135min), 3.9 (144min), 3.88 (153min), 3.85 (162min), 3.83 (171min), 3.8 (180min), 3.76 (189min), 3.74 (198min), 3.72 (207min), 3 minutes later flash time...
Regular #2
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45 min), 4.14 (54min), 4.11 (63min), 4.1 (72min), 4.09 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.02 (99min), 4.0 (108min), 3.98 (117min), 3.95 (126 min), 3.94 (135min), 3.92 (144min), 3.89 (153min), 3.86 (162min), 3.84 (171min), 3.8 (180min), 3.79 (189min), 3.76 (198min), 3.74 (207min), 3.71 (216min), 30 seconds in time to recharge...
XL #1
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.2 (36min), 4.2 (45min), 4.17 (54min), 4.16 (63min), 4.14 (72min), 4.11 (81min), 4.09 (90min), 4.07 (99min), 4.06 (108min), 4.04 (117min), 4.02 (126min), 4.0 (135min), 4.0 (144min), 3.97 (153min), 3.96 (162min), 3.93 (171min), 3.92 (180min), 3.9 (189min), 3.89 (198min), 3.87 (207min), 3.85 (216min), 3.83 (225min), 3.81 (234min), 3.8 (243min), 3.8 (252min), 3.79 (261min), 3.76 (270min), 3.74 (279min), 3.72 (288min), 3.7 (297min), flashes as soon as I took a puff...
XL #2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.2 (36min), 4.19 (45min), 4.16 (54min), 4.15 (63min), 4.15 (72min), 4.13 (81min), 4.11 (90min), 4.08 (99min), 4.07 (108min), 4.05 (117min), 4.03 (126min), 4.01 (135min), 4.0 (144min), 3.99 (153min), 3.97 (162min), 3.94 (171min), 3.92 (180min), 3.91 (189min), 3.9 (198min), 3.88 (207min), 3.86 (216min), 3.84 (225min), 3.82 (234min), 3.81 (243min), 3.8 (252min), 3.79 (261min), 3.77 (270min), 3.75 (279min), 3.73 (288min), 3.72 (297min), 3.71 (306min), 2 minutes later flashes again...
King Diamond v2 purple led voltage difference from 6/11/11:
Did these tests again with a 2.2ohm wow carto, fresh off the charger. Will list it's starter voltage (max 4 charges old on each), followed by their current voltage numbers. These are the 4 shorties that are being used heavily to see their lifespan potential... Two are stealths, 2 are kd's:
King Diamonds:
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.10 (45min), 4.05 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.02 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.98 (90min), 3.97 (99min), 3.94 (108min), 3.88 (117min), 3.73 (126min), 2 minutes later flash city
Shorty #1 (after 77 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.09 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.02 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.99 (90min), 3.95 (99min), 3.93 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.71 (126min), 1 minute later recharge time
Shorty #2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.02 (54min), 4.01 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.97 (81min), 3.95 (90min), 3.91 (99min), 3.89 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 6 minutes later flashes (only deep cycle the batt ever had, for the orginal test).
Shorty #2 (after 81 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.12 (45min), 4.03 (54min), 4.0 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.98 (81min), 3.94 (90min), 3.90 (99min), 3.88 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 5 minutes later major vapor decrease, recharged.
As we can see on the kd's, no major diffrences yet on both length of time or amount of voltage save a minimal flux.
Stealths:
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.04 (81min), 4.03 (90min), 4.01 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after 4 and a half minutes it stopped producing vapor
Shorty #1 (after 81 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.12 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.02 (81min), 4.01 (90min), 4.0 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after about 3 minutes and a quarter it was dead time.
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.13 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.74 (126min), at that point stopped to recharge knowing it was near it's end.
Shorty #2 (after 89 charges)
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.12 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.04 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.72 (126min), just as before, stopped to recharge knowing it was near it's end.
King Diamond and Stealth v2 voltages after 150+ uses from 7/22/11:
Used a 2.2ohm wow carto as usual on this test, and this time used they were fresh off the slim line charger. Will include the previous results on each batt as well to make it a bit easier on everyone.
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.10 (45min), 4.05 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.02 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.98 (90min), 3.97 (99min), 3.94 (108min), 3.88 (117min), 3.73 (126min), 2 minutes later flash city
Shorty #1 (after 77 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.09 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.02 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.99 (90min), 3.95 (99min), 3.93 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.71 (126min), 1 minute later recharge time
Shorty #1 (after 158 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.08 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.01 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.99 (90min), 3.94 (99min), 3.93 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.71 (126min), 2 puffs later was time to recharge.
Shorty #2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.02 (54min), 4.01 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.97 (81min), 3.95 (90min), 3.91 (99min), 3.89 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 6 minutes later flashes (only deep cycle the batt ever had, for the orginal test).
Shorty #2 (after 81 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.12 (45min), 4.03 (54min), 4.0 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.98 (81min), 3.94 (90min), 3.90 (99min), 3.88 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 5 minutes later major vapor decrease, recharged.
Shorty #2 (after 163 recharges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.13 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.0 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.97 (81min), 3.93 (90min), 3.90 (99min), 3.88 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 4 minutes later vapor production fell off, so on the charger it went
No major changes, though the second batt had better numbers this time around using the new slim charger. Will be doing a second test on it in a few days seeing if this was an anomaly or if not deep cycling and using the slim line charger really makes (however slight) a difference.
Stealths:
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.04 (81min), 4.03 (90min), 4.01 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after 4 and a half minutes it stopped producing vapor
Shorty #1 (after 81 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.12 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.02 (81min), 4.01 (90min), 4.0 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after about 3 minutes and a quarter it was dead time.
Shorty #1 (after 172 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.13 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.08 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.01 (81min), 4.0 (90min), 4.0 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after 2 and a half minutes nothing.
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.13 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.74 (126min), at that point stopped to recharge knowing it was near it's end.
Shorty #2 (after 89 charges)
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.12 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.04 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.72 (126min), just as before, stopped to recharge knowing it was near it's end.
Shorty #2 (after 178 charges)
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.14 (45min), 4.12 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.08 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.89 (117min), 3.74 (126min), stopped there knowing it would soon be at it's dead point.
Again we see little change, but slightly better numbers using a batt that hasn't been deep cycled and the slim charger.
Charging times comparison from 7/1/11:
Did this test using king diamond batts, one shorty, one regular, one xl. Watched the chargers as best as I could to get the most accurate times possible. Had them by me constantly watching for light changes.
Shorty charge times:
USB- 78min
Old School (OS) wall charger- 83min
Slim Line (SL) wall charger- 67min
Regular:
USB- 123min
OS- 126min
SL- 97min
XL:
USB- 168min
OS- 171min
SL- 139min
Roughly 19-21% faster overall than the old chargers. What I found odd was even with it having a lower mah output, they still delivered the promised 20% gain. My only complaints with it are the coloring (prefer it was in black, white screams apple product, a big boo for we mac haters out there), and if you already own a good amount of the old chargers and have plenty of spare batts, then there's not much need as of yet to make the switch. Hopefully we'll see this newer charger technology migrate to the usb chargers sometime soon....
A brief example of how many charges regular manuals last from 6/5/11:
A few months ago decided to do a study on just how many recharges you can potentially get out of them. Still keeping track of every charge on each batt, but designated 4 for heavy use. These batts were charged at least 3 times a day (I'm a very heavy vaper incase no one could tell). Orginally it was 6 batts, but 2 failed due to switch issues so their results can't be included. I'm including Anakin (RIP) as my control group. He was subjected to all types of cycling, so a good water mark for what most people would put their batts through. All batts were manual in regular size, and used wow cartos exclusively on them. Stopped once their run time was below 10 minutes (most people would have stopped long before that, but well....).
Anakin-263 charges
Group 1
This group was deep cycled every time (in other words only recharged upon flashing). One batt was a purple with blue led, the other a gun metal platinum with green led. PB and GG for short.
PB- 212 recharges, by charge number 176 he only would last 2/3 of his previous average (128min vs. 195min), and the last 5 charges were 66min, 51min, 33min, 21min, and 9:30.
GG- 207 total, by charge 164 saw a 60% drop in time (115min vs. 193min), and the last 5 charges were plain abysmal. They were 51min, 39min, 22 min, 13min, and just under 7 minutes...
Group 2
These were never deep cycled, recharged them as soon as I noticed a lack in vapor production. The first one is a chrome with blue led (CB), and the second was a bronze with blue led (BB).
CB- 319 charges. It wasn't until charge number 245 that she lost some time, and it was only 80% (150min vs 188min). It was a dramatic drop off at the end though (which seems to be the way every batt that has died on me for non-switch related issues does). The final 5 times were 61min, 47min, 31min, 19min, and finally 9 min.
BB- 324 charges. This was my longest lasting batt to date. She was a trooper until charge 276, when she lost around 75% of her average time (147min vs. 197min). Her last 5 were 66min, 52min, 38min, 22min, and 8 min on the final go round.
As more batts die will post their final run times and length. What we can see though is a huge gap in lifespan when it comes to deep cycling to recharging before it's dead.
While it may seem like a huge amount of info, at least it's all in one space (for now). Will either add any new tests to this thread, or only post them here if anyone thinks that will make it easier.
Shorty Bargin bin voltages 4/29/11 (which the standard shorties mirror pretty well in my unposted tests):
I tested two of them early this morning using a wow carto at 2.2ohm as to give a direct comparison to the king diamond series shorties. Same method applied of chain vaping and checking every 9 minutes, directly after being taken off the charger...
Shorty #1
4.2 (at start), 4.18 (9min), 4.16 (18min), 4.13 (27min), 4.08 (36min), 4.01 (45min), 3.97 (54min), 3.92 (63min), 3.86 (72min), 3.81 (81min), 3.77 (90min), 3.72 (99min), 3.66 (108min), 1 minute later needed to be recharged afterwards
Shorty #2
4.2 (as), 4.16 (9min), 4.13 (18min), 4.09 (27min), 4.02 (36min), 3.94 (45min), 3.91 (54min), 3.88 (63min), 3.85 (72min), 3.83 (81min), 3.8 (90min), 3.77 (99min), 3.73 (108min), 3.65 (117min), 2 minutes later flashes....
Manual regular sized voltages from 5/6/11:
These tests were done with wow carts at 2.2ohm and cool carts at 3.3ohm. They were chain vaped fresh off the charger. I used the two newest manuals I own for these tests (one recharged 3 times, the other 4).
Wow cartos 2.2ohm
Manual #1
4.2 (at start), 4.15 (9min), 4.11 (18min), 4.06 (27min), 4.01 (36min), 3.93 (45 min), 3.84 (54min), 3.76 (63min), 3.75 (72min), 3.73 (81min), 3.72 (90min), 3.71 (99min), 3.7 (108min), 3.71 (117min), 3.7 (126 min), 3.69 (135min), 3.68 (144min), 3.66 (153min), 3.64 (162min), 3.61 (171min), 3.59 (180min), 3.52 (189min), roughly a minute later flashes...
Manual #2
4.2 (at start), 4.13 (9min), 4.09 (18min), 4.02 (27min), 3.95 (36min), 3.91 (45 min), 3.83 (54min), 3.78 (63min), 3.76 (72min), 3.74 (81min), 3.72 (90min), 3.71 (99min), 3.71 (108min), 3.7 (117min), 3.7 (126 min), 3.7 (135min), 3.7 (144min), 3.68 (153min), 3.66 (162min), 3.63 (171min), 3.6 (180min), 3.58 (189min), 3.55 (198min), 7 minutes later flashies...
Cool Carts at 3.3
Manual #1
4.2 (at start), 4.16 (9min), 4.13 (18min), 4.08 (27min), 4.03 (36min), 3.94 (45 min), 3.86 (54min), 3.81 (63min), 3.77 (72min), 3.75 (81min), 3.73 (90min), 3.71 (99min), 3.71 (108min), 3.71 (117min), 3.71 (126 min), 3.7 (135min), 3.7 (144min), 3.69 (153min), 3.69 (162min), 3.66 (171min), 3.66 (180min), 3.63 (189min), 3.63 (198min), 3.62 (207min), 3.6 (216min), 3.59 (225min), 3.56 (234min), 3.52 (243min) roughly 6 minute later recharge...
Manual #2
4.2 (at start), 4.15 (9min), 4.08 (18min), 4.03 (27min), 3.95 (36min), 3.88 (45 min), 3.83 (54min), 3.79 (63min), 3.74 (72min), 3.72 (81min), 3.72 (90min), 3.72 (99min), 3.72 (108min), 3.71 (117min), 3.71 (126 min), 3.71 (135min), 3.71 (144min), 3.7 (153min), 3.7 (162min), 3.69 (171min), 3.69 (180min), 3.66 (189min), 3.65 (198min), 3.64 (207min), 3.62 (216min), 3.6 (225min), 3.6 (234min), 3.59 (243min), 3.53 (252min) roughly 4 minute later flashes again...
Stealth V2 Voltages from 5/6/11:
These tests were performed with both wow cartos at 2.2 ohm and cool carts at 3.3ohm. Same thing as before they are fresh off the charger and then straight to chain vaping...
With Wow cartos at 2.2ohm
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.04 (81min), 4.03 (90min), 4.01 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after 4 and a half minutes it stopped producing vapor
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.14 (45min), 4.13 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.06 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.74 (126min) 2 minutes later no vapor again...
Regular #1
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.15 (45 min), 4.13 (54min), 4.11 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.05 (81min), 4.01 (90min), 3.99 (99min), 3.97 (108min), 3.93 (117min), 3.91 (126 min), 3.89 (135min), 3.85 (144min), 3.81 (153min), 3.79 (162min), 3.76 (171min), 3.71 (180min), 4 minutes time for recharge...
Regular #2
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.18 (36min), 4.16 (45 min), 4.15 (54min), 4.12 (63min), 4.05 (72min), 4.01 (81min), 3.96 (90min), 3.91 (99min), 3.88 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.85 (126 min), 3.83 (135min), 3.81 (144min), 3.79 (153min), 3.75 (162min), 3.73 (171min), 2 minutes in no vapor again...
So far only tested the one XL (all I own as of right now), but have run the test twice to see if there were any changes...
XL Test 1
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.19 (36min), 4.17 (45min), 4.15 (54min), 4.14 (63min), 4.13 (72min), 4.11 (81min), 4.09 (90min), 4.08 (99min), 4.06 (108min), 4.04 (117min), 4.03 (126min), 4.01 (135min), 4.01 (144min), 3.98 (153min), 3.97 (162min), 3.95 (171min), 3.93 (180min), 3.91 (189min), 3.89 (198min), 3.87 (207min), 3.83 (216min), 3.81 (225min), 3.79 (234min), 3.76 (243min), 3.72 (252min), 2 minutes later recharge...
Xl Test 2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.19 (36min), 4.18 (45min), 4.16 (54min), 4.14 (63min), 4.13 (72min), 4.10 (81min), 4.09 (90min), 4.08 (99min), 4.07 (108min), 4.04 (117min), 4.02 (126min), 4.01 (135min), 4.01 (144min), 3.99 (153min), 3.97 (162min), 3.94 (171min), 3.93 (180min), 3.91 (189min), 3.89 (198min), 3.87 (207min), 3.85 (216min), 3.82 (225min), 3.80 (234min), 3.75 (243min), 3.73 (252min), 3 minutes later recharge...
A very slight change, but nothing that really stands out...
With Cool Carts at 3.3ohm
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.14 (45min), 4.12 (54min), 4.10 (63min), 4.09 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 4.01 (117min), 3.97 (126min), 3.91 (135min), 3.84 (144min), 3.75 (153), after 3 puffs it stopped producing vapor...
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.14 (54min), 4.12 (63min), 4.10 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.04 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 4.01 (117min), 4.0 (126min), 3.88 (135min), 3.73 (144min), after about 90 seconds it stopped....
Have only tested one regular so far with the CC's, but here are the results:
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.16 (45 min), 4.15 (54min), 4.13 (63min), 4.11 (72min), 4.08 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.97 (117min), 3.96 (126 min), 3.94 (135min), 3.91 (144min), 3.89 (153min), 3.87 (162min), 3.85 (171min), 3.81 (180min), 3.79 (189min), 3.76 (198min), 3.74 (207min), 3.71 (216min), 2 minutes later recharge time...
King Diamond v2 voltages from 5/15/11:
These tests were performed with both wow cartos at 2.2 ohm and cool carts at 3.3ohm. Same thing as before they are fresh off the charger and then straight to chain vaping...
With Wow cartos at 2.2ohm
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.10 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.01 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.98 (90min), 3.97 (99min), 3.94 (108min), 3.88 (117min), 3.71 (126min), 2 puffs later flashes.
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.02 (54min), 4.01 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.97 (81min), 3.95 (90min), 3.91 (99min), 3.89 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 6 minutes later flashes.
Regular #1
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.14 (45 min), 4.12 (54min), 4.1 (63min), 4.07 (72min), 4.03 (81min), 4.0 (90min), 3.96 (99min), 3.94 (108min), 3.92 (117min), 3.9 (126 min), 3.88 (135min), 3.84 (144min), 3.8 (153min), 3.78 (162min), 3.75 (171min), 3.71 (180min), 2 minutes later it was time again for recharge...
Regular #2
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.18 (36min), 4.17 (45 min), 4.16 (54min), 4.13 (63min), 4.04 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.94 (90min), 3.89 (99min), 3.85 (108min), 3.82 (117min), 3.8 (126 min), 3.79 (135min), 3.76 (144min), 3.74 (153min), 3.71 (162min), roughly 5 puffs later flashy flashy.
XL #1
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.19 (36min), 4.18 (45min), 4.17 (54min), 4.13 (63min), 4.11 (72min), 4.09 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 4.0 (117min), 3.99 (126min), 3.97 (135min), 3.97 (144min), 3.94 (153min), 3.94 (162min), 3.91 (171min), 3.9 (180min), 3.9 (189min), 3.87 (198min), 3.85 (207min), 3.82 (216min), 3.8 (225min), 3.78 (234min), 3.74 (243min), 5 minutes later flashes once again...
Xl #2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.18 (36min), 4.17 (45min), 4.16 (54min), 4.15 (63min), 4.13 (72min), 4.11 (81min), 4.09 (90min), 4.09 (99min), 4.07 (108min), 4.06 (117min), 4.03 (126min), 4.01 (135min), 4.0 (144min), 3.99 (153min), 3.97 (162min), 3.93 (171min), 3.92 (180min), 3.91 (189min), 3.89 (198min), 3.86 (207min), 3.84 (216min), 3.82 (225min), 3.80 (234min), 3.74 (243min), 3.71 (252min), 2 1/2 minutes later recharge needed...
They don't last as long as the Stealth v2's (guessing the led does come into play), but still do a great job all in all.
With Cool Carts at 3.3ohm
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.2 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.16 (45min), 4.13 (54min), 4.12 (63min), 4.1 (72min), 4.09 (81min), 4.04 (90min), 4.02 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 4.0 (117min), 3.96 (126min), 3.9 (135min), 3.83 (144min), 3.71 (153), got one puff before flashes...
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.16 (45min), 4.15 (54min), 4.11 (63min), 4.09 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 4.01 (117min), 3.97 (126min), 3.84 (135min), 3.71 (144min), after 3 puffs once again flash time....
Regular #1
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45 min), 4.13 (54min), 4.12 (63min), 4.10 (72min), 4.08 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.02 (99min), 4.0 (108min), 3.98 (117min), 3.94 (126 min), 3.92 (135min), 3.9 (144min), 3.88 (153min), 3.85 (162min), 3.83 (171min), 3.8 (180min), 3.76 (189min), 3.74 (198min), 3.72 (207min), 3 minutes later flash time...
Regular #2
4.2 (at start), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45 min), 4.14 (54min), 4.11 (63min), 4.1 (72min), 4.09 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.02 (99min), 4.0 (108min), 3.98 (117min), 3.95 (126 min), 3.94 (135min), 3.92 (144min), 3.89 (153min), 3.86 (162min), 3.84 (171min), 3.8 (180min), 3.79 (189min), 3.76 (198min), 3.74 (207min), 3.71 (216min), 30 seconds in time to recharge...
XL #1
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.2 (36min), 4.2 (45min), 4.17 (54min), 4.16 (63min), 4.14 (72min), 4.11 (81min), 4.09 (90min), 4.07 (99min), 4.06 (108min), 4.04 (117min), 4.02 (126min), 4.0 (135min), 4.0 (144min), 3.97 (153min), 3.96 (162min), 3.93 (171min), 3.92 (180min), 3.9 (189min), 3.89 (198min), 3.87 (207min), 3.85 (216min), 3.83 (225min), 3.81 (234min), 3.8 (243min), 3.8 (252min), 3.79 (261min), 3.76 (270min), 3.74 (279min), 3.72 (288min), 3.7 (297min), flashes as soon as I took a puff...
XL #2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min), 4.2 (18min), 4.2 (27min), 4.2 (36min), 4.19 (45min), 4.16 (54min), 4.15 (63min), 4.15 (72min), 4.13 (81min), 4.11 (90min), 4.08 (99min), 4.07 (108min), 4.05 (117min), 4.03 (126min), 4.01 (135min), 4.0 (144min), 3.99 (153min), 3.97 (162min), 3.94 (171min), 3.92 (180min), 3.91 (189min), 3.9 (198min), 3.88 (207min), 3.86 (216min), 3.84 (225min), 3.82 (234min), 3.81 (243min), 3.8 (252min), 3.79 (261min), 3.77 (270min), 3.75 (279min), 3.73 (288min), 3.72 (297min), 3.71 (306min), 2 minutes later flashes again...
King Diamond v2 purple led voltage difference from 6/11/11:
Did these tests again with a 2.2ohm wow carto, fresh off the charger. Will list it's starter voltage (max 4 charges old on each), followed by their current voltage numbers. These are the 4 shorties that are being used heavily to see their lifespan potential... Two are stealths, 2 are kd's:
King Diamonds:
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.10 (45min), 4.05 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.02 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.98 (90min), 3.97 (99min), 3.94 (108min), 3.88 (117min), 3.73 (126min), 2 minutes later flash city
Shorty #1 (after 77 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.09 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.02 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.99 (90min), 3.95 (99min), 3.93 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.71 (126min), 1 minute later recharge time
Shorty #2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.02 (54min), 4.01 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.97 (81min), 3.95 (90min), 3.91 (99min), 3.89 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 6 minutes later flashes (only deep cycle the batt ever had, for the orginal test).
Shorty #2 (after 81 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.12 (45min), 4.03 (54min), 4.0 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.98 (81min), 3.94 (90min), 3.90 (99min), 3.88 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 5 minutes later major vapor decrease, recharged.
As we can see on the kd's, no major diffrences yet on both length of time or amount of voltage save a minimal flux.
Stealths:
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.04 (81min), 4.03 (90min), 4.01 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after 4 and a half minutes it stopped producing vapor
Shorty #1 (after 81 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.12 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.02 (81min), 4.01 (90min), 4.0 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after about 3 minutes and a quarter it was dead time.
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.13 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.74 (126min), at that point stopped to recharge knowing it was near it's end.
Shorty #2 (after 89 charges)
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.12 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.04 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.72 (126min), just as before, stopped to recharge knowing it was near it's end.
King Diamond and Stealth v2 voltages after 150+ uses from 7/22/11:
Used a 2.2ohm wow carto as usual on this test, and this time used they were fresh off the slim line charger. Will include the previous results on each batt as well to make it a bit easier on everyone.
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.10 (45min), 4.05 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.02 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.98 (90min), 3.97 (99min), 3.94 (108min), 3.88 (117min), 3.73 (126min), 2 minutes later flash city
Shorty #1 (after 77 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.09 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.02 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.99 (90min), 3.95 (99min), 3.93 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.71 (126min), 1 minute later recharge time
Shorty #1 (after 158 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.08 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.03 (63min), 4.01 (72min), 4.0 (81min), 3.99 (90min), 3.94 (99min), 3.93 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.71 (126min), 2 puffs later was time to recharge.
Shorty #2
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.2 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.02 (54min), 4.01 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.97 (81min), 3.95 (90min), 3.91 (99min), 3.89 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 6 minutes later flashes (only deep cycle the batt ever had, for the orginal test).
Shorty #2 (after 81 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.12 (45min), 4.03 (54min), 4.0 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.98 (81min), 3.94 (90min), 3.90 (99min), 3.88 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 5 minutes later major vapor decrease, recharged.
Shorty #2 (after 163 recharges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.18 (27min), 4.17 (36min), 4.13 (45min), 4.04 (54min), 4.0 (63min), 4.0 (72min), 3.97 (81min), 3.93 (90min), 3.90 (99min), 3.88 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 4 minutes later vapor production fell off, so on the charger it went
No major changes, though the second batt had better numbers this time around using the new slim charger. Will be doing a second test on it in a few days seeing if this was an anomaly or if not deep cycling and using the slim line charger really makes (however slight) a difference.
Stealths:
Shorty #1
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.11 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.04 (81min), 4.03 (90min), 4.01 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after 4 and a half minutes it stopped producing vapor
Shorty #1 (after 81 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.19 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.12 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.07 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.02 (81min), 4.01 (90min), 4.0 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after about 3 minutes and a quarter it was dead time.
Shorty #1 (after 172 charges)
4.2 (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.14 (36min), 4.13 (45min), 4.09 (54min), 4.08 (63min), 4.06 (72min), 4.01 (81min), 4.0 (90min), 4.0 (99min), 3.99 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.75 (126min), after 2 and a half minutes nothing.
Shorty #2
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.13 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.02 (108min), 3.86 (117min), 3.74 (126min), at that point stopped to recharge knowing it was near it's end.
Shorty #2 (after 89 charges)
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.18 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.16 (36min), 4.15 (45min), 4.12 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.07 (81min), 4.06 (90min), 4.04 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.87 (117min), 3.72 (126min), just as before, stopped to recharge knowing it was near it's end.
Shorty #2 (after 178 charges)
4.2 at start (as), 4.2 (9min in), 4.19 (18min), 4.17 (27min), 4.15 (36min), 4.14 (45min), 4.12 (54min), 4.09 (63min), 4.08 (72min), 4.08 (81min), 4.05 (90min), 4.03 (99min), 4.01 (108min), 3.89 (117min), 3.74 (126min), stopped there knowing it would soon be at it's dead point.
Again we see little change, but slightly better numbers using a batt that hasn't been deep cycled and the slim charger.
Charging times comparison from 7/1/11:
Did this test using king diamond batts, one shorty, one regular, one xl. Watched the chargers as best as I could to get the most accurate times possible. Had them by me constantly watching for light changes.
Shorty charge times:
USB- 78min
Old School (OS) wall charger- 83min
Slim Line (SL) wall charger- 67min
Regular:
USB- 123min
OS- 126min
SL- 97min
XL:
USB- 168min
OS- 171min
SL- 139min
Roughly 19-21% faster overall than the old chargers. What I found odd was even with it having a lower mah output, they still delivered the promised 20% gain. My only complaints with it are the coloring (prefer it was in black, white screams apple product, a big boo for we mac haters out there), and if you already own a good amount of the old chargers and have plenty of spare batts, then there's not much need as of yet to make the switch. Hopefully we'll see this newer charger technology migrate to the usb chargers sometime soon....
A brief example of how many charges regular manuals last from 6/5/11:
A few months ago decided to do a study on just how many recharges you can potentially get out of them. Still keeping track of every charge on each batt, but designated 4 for heavy use. These batts were charged at least 3 times a day (I'm a very heavy vaper incase no one could tell). Orginally it was 6 batts, but 2 failed due to switch issues so their results can't be included. I'm including Anakin (RIP) as my control group. He was subjected to all types of cycling, so a good water mark for what most people would put their batts through. All batts were manual in regular size, and used wow cartos exclusively on them. Stopped once their run time was below 10 minutes (most people would have stopped long before that, but well....).
Anakin-263 charges
Group 1
This group was deep cycled every time (in other words only recharged upon flashing). One batt was a purple with blue led, the other a gun metal platinum with green led. PB and GG for short.
PB- 212 recharges, by charge number 176 he only would last 2/3 of his previous average (128min vs. 195min), and the last 5 charges were 66min, 51min, 33min, 21min, and 9:30.
GG- 207 total, by charge 164 saw a 60% drop in time (115min vs. 193min), and the last 5 charges were plain abysmal. They were 51min, 39min, 22 min, 13min, and just under 7 minutes...
Group 2
These were never deep cycled, recharged them as soon as I noticed a lack in vapor production. The first one is a chrome with blue led (CB), and the second was a bronze with blue led (BB).
CB- 319 charges. It wasn't until charge number 245 that she lost some time, and it was only 80% (150min vs 188min). It was a dramatic drop off at the end though (which seems to be the way every batt that has died on me for non-switch related issues does). The final 5 times were 61min, 47min, 31min, 19min, and finally 9 min.
BB- 324 charges. This was my longest lasting batt to date. She was a trooper until charge 276, when she lost around 75% of her average time (147min vs. 197min). Her last 5 were 66min, 52min, 38min, 22min, and 8 min on the final go round.
As more batts die will post their final run times and length. What we can see though is a huge gap in lifespan when it comes to deep cycling to recharging before it's dead.
While it may seem like a huge amount of info, at least it's all in one space (for now). Will either add any new tests to this thread, or only post them here if anyone thinks that will make it easier.
