More strict rules for e-liquids needed

[Dirty_Ralph]

Fascinating, isn't it?
Handle water with gloves, then remove gloves applying proper techicque, wash hands with water...



Only when handling toilet water might that statement make sense....

 

[StonyArtichoke]

The post is a touchy subject. I think everyone would be supportive of a thread titled "nervous about nicotine poisoning". It is hard to be supportive of a thread that says we all need government babysitters because the OP is afraid of nicotine. It could have been handled better but forums will be forums, this is a place where people come to enjoy their vaping hobby and most of us are pretty heavily opposed to regulation. It's like going to the NRA forum and saying I think guns should be banned because I left my safety off and shot a hole in my ceiling.

On topic, I used to be like a scientist when I made my juice. Put on the face mask and rubber gloves, perfect measurements, DIY calculator to ensure perfection, write down every drop and detail, bleach cleaning session of the entire area before and after. These days I just pull out a jar pour some VG in, pour some flavoring straight from the bottle, syringe in what feels like the right amount of nicotine, shake the jar up and call it good. I get 100 mg on my hands all the time and just wash it off, never had any adverse effects.

Exactly, if they would have come about it in a way that wouldn't upset so much. Somebody that went as far as making their own e liquid is going to know how vapers are and 90% want the regulators far away. I'm the same way, when I started diying it might as well have been in a doctors office now that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[roxynoodle]

@DoctorJ you don't know what some of us have been through already trying to help him not blow himself up in previous posts. You can find some of them in the Not Advisible area.

 

[hmar]

Doctor J, while I normally would agree with your sentiment about stupid v ignorant, I think what we are seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to a thread that does, to an extent, feel like an attack on our vaping. There are so many attacks coming from so many different directions that I think we are all keyed up for an argument on the subject, and ready to go at slight provocation. To begin a thread in this crowd with "More strict rules for e-liquids needed"
is unwise at best.

 

[SleeZy]

When handling 100 mg nic do not spill it on carpet (handle it in not carpeted room).

I've heard this several times, what's the reason for this? Due the carpet absorbs it all or?
Lucky for me i own 0 carpets unless you count the welcome carpet at the door. ^^
Other then that i do agree with you .

 

[retired1]

Doctor J, while I normally would agree with your sentiment about stupid v ignorant, I think what we are seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to a thread that does, to an extent, feel like an attack on our vaping. There are so many attacks coming from so many different directions that I think we are all keyed up for an argument on the subject, and ready to go at slight provocation. To begin a thread in this crowd with "More strict rules for e-liquids needed"
is unwise at best.

Or, the crowd should know better and follow the rules. First and last warning on the issue.

 

[caramel]

@beckdg you should wear gloves and goggles while vaping.

 

[Alien Traveler]

I've heard this several times, what's the reason for this? Due the carpet absorbs it all or?
Lucky for me i own 0 carpets unless you count the welcome carpet at the door. ^^
Other then that i do agree with you .

OK, you have caught me. It is the only thing I made up, I do not have carpet in my house also (do not like all the dust). But I think it is important for other people, especially for people with children.
Yes, carpet absorbs spills. They will slowly evaporate (PG and VG, if left for longer time, will evaporate completely, just like water). I do not think it is good for children to be in a room with air enriched with nicotine.

 

[caramel]

Let me whip some joose.

 

[SleeZy]

OK, you have caught me. It is the only thing I made of, I do not have carpet in my house also (do not like all the dust). But I think it is important for other people, especially for people with children.
Yes, carpet absorbs spills. They will slowly evaporate (PG and VG, if left for longer time, will evaporate completely, just like water). I do not think it is good for children to be in a room with air enriched with nicotine.

Yea this very true, i was mostly wondering incase the nicotine solution would stick longer than say pg/vg or not.
And yea children shouldn't be in a room full with nicotine enriched air.

So it's a good advice i just wondered if there was something more to it.

 

[twgbonehead]

WOW!!! I'm really shocked at all the answers to the OP's response like this one. ECF, well I thought, is a mostly supportive community, however, since it seems 26 people "liked" the above quote and there are quite a few very similar to it, it seems that our "caring" community is no longer as caring as I thought. I know the majority is, but where have all these "haters" come from?

I've seen a few snide responses to some posts before, but nothing like this!!! We are a community people. We are here to help each other. WTH is the deal? This is ECF, not twitter or facebook or any of those other social media sites where "hating" on someone is the norm. I'm beside myself at the negative responses!

Yeah, OK, I know "haters are gonna hate" but geesh!!! And go ahead and flame me for standing up for the OP. Don't really care.

The OP really hit on a theme that is not directly related to vaping, but seems to be more typical of things going on (at least in the US) that really drive lots of us crazy.

"I'm afraid of this, so I think there should be laws to regulate it, and those laws should not only protect me, but also prevent anyone else from having to deal with the same risks".

Has nothing to do with e-cigarettes specifically. But I (and many others) get upset when someone suggests that any risk (real or imagined) should be immediately dealt with through laws, regulations, and restrictions.

The OP has clearly told us details that suggest he or she REALLY needs some mental health care. Panic attacks, unreasonable fear of getting 100MG liquid on their skin (while dealing with concentrated acids and bases without gloves was not a concern) indicates that the OP either is suffering from issues which NEED to be treated by health professionals, or is a troll.

And other posts from this member seem to indicate a complete lack of concern for serious health issues (such as using mods appropriately, and making sure they are properly vented). Not to mention handling concentrated acids without proper protection.

I am all for making ECF a supportive and welcoming community, but as tolerant as I try to be, I find no mental space to afford the OP any slack. The posts are ridiculous and extremely paranoid, and the title of the thread basically is demanding that everyone's rights be restricted, in order to make the OP feel somewhat safer.

I'm sorry, but I cannot welcome that attitude, and despite my attempts to be welcoming and civil to everyone on ECF, if the OP will not seek medical advice for this condition, I can have nothing but contempt for them. Their problem is NOT my problem, nor our problem. Fear and panic are personal issues, and trying to solve them through legislation never works out well.

 

[beckdg]

@beckdg you should wear gloves and goggles while vaping.

Apparently so.

Tapatyped

 

[retired1]

And we're done. Closed.